(04-04-2011 01:44 PM)panama Wrote:  

(04-04-2011 01:33 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-04-2011 12:57 PM)panama Wrote:  Seriously? Mafia killings? Come on now. It happened, it's part of history. Lets not muddle it with a comparison that does not apply.

What's "unserious" about Mafia/mob-killings?

Trying minimize people being dragged from their homes and lynched by comparing it to an unrelated series of killings. It's the "oh but they killed people too" argument. The problem with argument is that America Mob Killings almost always involved people in the Mob. There were no a sustained form of terrorism carried out for a 100 years in full public view with the intent of keeping an entire group of citizens in line. Any comparison comes off as trite at best. It is not the same. The question that was originally asked was why despite having more KKK members that MS does PA not get the same rep. The answer has nothing to do with the Irish Mob or the Mafia. The answer is that PA does not have a history of African-Americans and other minorities ending up hanging from a tree.

Not so fast my friend...

http://www.etymonline.com/cw/zach.htm

(04-04-2011 12:47 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-04-2011 12:07 PM)panama Wrote:  

(04-04-2011 11:53 AM)southernmiss4ever Wrote:  I always found it interesting that there are more KKK members in Pennsylvania than in MS, but yet you don't hear anything about that.

Because PA isnt in the running for all time lynching leader.

I don't know if it's possible to compile reliable data in such matters, but I sometimes wish there could be a statistical comparison of klan-lynchings/killings in the south with mob/mafia-killings in the north. I admit this is pure guess-work on my part, but I'd guess it comes out roughly the same in terms of how many people were killed. The "look the other way" relationship with much of local law-enforcement was similar, too.

????...not even close.

first of all big difference between a man or a child being killed because the color of his skin, then a man being killed because of his gang affiliation.

(04-04-2011 02:30 PM)GreenBison Wrote:  

(04-04-2011 01:44 PM)panama Wrote:  

(04-04-2011 01:33 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-04-2011 12:57 PM)panama Wrote:  Seriously? Mafia killings? Come on now. It happened, it's part of history. Lets not muddle it with a comparison that does not apply.

What's "unserious" about Mafia/mob-killings?

Trying minimize people being dragged from their homes and lynched by comparing it to an unrelated series of killings. It's the "oh but they killed people too" argument. The problem with argument is that America Mob Killings almost always involved people in the Mob. There were no a sustained form of terrorism carried out for a 100 years in full public view with the intent of keeping an entire group of citizens in line. Any comparison comes off as trite at best. It is not the same. The question that was originally asked was why despite having more KKK members that MS does PA not get the same rep. The answer has nothing to do with the Irish Mob or the Mafia. The answer is that PA does not have a history of African-Americans and other minorities ending up hanging from a tree.

Not so fast my friend...

http://www.etymonline.com/cw/zach.htm

There is no comparison. I live in Georgia. My father and grandparent were born in South Georgia pre-WW II. Cant believe this is even a conversation. Lynchings have occurred outside the Deep South. The Deep South holds the patent. Period.

Besides, "Everybody else was doing it" wouldn't fly with your mother. Why argue it here?

This is what happens when we dont have enough football to talk about in the South...lol

Closed Spring Practices, no realignment dominoes, signing period over and 5 months until kickoff.

I cant take it!!!!!!!

(04-03-2011 05:24 PM)ShoreBuc Wrote:  What part of the north? I know where I lived in NJ there were plenty of rednecks and I don't even want to talk about the rednecks in PA or the worst racist I have ever encountered world wide in the Boston area.

New York, CT, New Hampshire and Vermont.. Theyre spread out all up there and im the first to be born and raised in the south..
My family heritage is Italian.. And nowhere near a redneck.. I think most southerner's have had that label put on them.

Can we get a smack board send off please??

(04-04-2011 11:53 AM)southernmiss4ever Wrote:  There's a rebel flag flying on Hardy St. here in Hattiesburg right past the USM campus next to a bank.

The leader of the MS KKK lives in the Hattiesburg area (Petal).

I always found it interesting that there are more KKK members in Pennsylvania than in MS, but yet you don't hear anything about that.

Or why you don't hear about the most segregated cities in the US are all in the north. Number one? Cleveland.

Fact is, racial problems in the south are no worst today than they are in any other part of the country.

Please send it off.. It has gotten nowhere.. My 1st comment was to be a joke but was real and was taken a different way intended and it just got out of hand..

This is the first time I've opened this thread and now I realize why I didn't before this. Wow.

(04-04-2011 05:38 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  This is the first time I've opened this thread and now I realize why I didn't before this. Wow.

This.

Before it gets moved, can we all agree the the Confederacy was ignorant and everyone that still flies Confederate flags is ignorant-squared?

(04-04-2011 07:10 PM)lmckay92 Wrote:  Before it gets moved, can we all agree the the Confederacy was ignorant and everyone that still flies Confederate flags is ignorant-squared?

Yep.

(04-03-2011 08:00 AM)KnightLight Wrote:  I apologize for posting an interesting website that had a lot of good information.

I thought there might be a few historical buffs (i.e. those that appreciated/admired the war strategy on both sides...which were filled with good decisions and bad).

I apologize as the kiddies have invaded this thread with zero interest in the initial post.


Civil War: 150 Years

No need to apologize. The Civil War when taken at face value is interesting history. Living here in Atlanta you cannot drive 1 mile without passing a Civil War marker. Most people do not even notice them. There is one outside my subdivision because this is the road that General Hardee took in his unsuccessful bid to outflank Sherman from the east during the Battle of Atlanta.