Hey Stammers. I need to ask you about your sig.

This is quite funny to me, your current coaches has one of the best recruting classes in the nation last year and it's Cal's fault that they are not achieving success? Most if not all of your claims are speculation because you are not happy with the current situation of your team. You sound like a moron with all this nonsense...

(03-27-2011 08:08 PM)transitt Wrote:  If you guys understood some of the crap he pulled on the way out the door here, you wouldn't be so quick to kiss his butt.

He was so mad that we wouldn't hire "his boy" in Barbee that he actively tried to burn this program to the ground.

He tried to get Garcia, Spoon, and Sallie to transfer.

He had people on our campus trying to convince CJ Henry to leave and go to Kentucky. Of all people, Wolken gave me some fun details on that one.

He was never interested in the success or history of this program. He thought he was bigger than the program. He thinks he's bigger than his current program.


He ran away from the NCAA and we're very very lucky that the NCAA only uncovered what they did.

(03-27-2011 09:48 PM)daddyodewy Wrote:  

(03-27-2011 09:24 PM)tiger-viper Wrote:  why does anyone have to give cal credit? who cares if some of us would love to see someone go bill the butcher on his sorry @ss and then roll him through salty $hit? he left our program for dead, and he's done nothing but smear our name since he left. therefore, i wish nothing but the worst in life for the man.

tiger-viper

No problem with anything you just posted.......but what is wrong, in your opinion, with someone who recognizes his achievements this year????

Why would you feel any inclination to recognize the "achievements" of anyone who said he wanted to be with you, then deserted you in the thick of the night with no explanation, stole your children and your household goods, tried to burn your house down on the way out, left you to deal with the authorities because of crimes HE committed, cursed you and lies about you to everyone he meets in his new abode, and wishes only evil on you? Why would you even ACKNOWLEDGE such a lowlife scum??????

(03-27-2011 10:19 PM)Craig4Memphis Wrote:  

(03-27-2011 08:38 PM)JMSTiger Wrote:  Calipari is a lot of things. One of them is a winner.

And the most important. Hopefully Josh's time will come before he leaves us.

Oh, yeah, winning is the most important thing....until they come for your banners....or your coach, ala Tennessee.

where is jim grey when you need him:

"coach.....since your last two final fours were vacated, how does it feel making it to your first final four?"

(03-27-2011 10:53 PM)SL030676 Wrote:  

(03-27-2011 09:59 PM)alterego2 Wrote:  

(03-27-2011 09:50 PM)SL030676 Wrote:  

(03-27-2011 08:16 PM)transitt Wrote:  

(03-27-2011 08:13 PM)CyberTiger Wrote:  Please. He made us relevant again.

After five whole years of us not being relevant.

The money put into the program made us as relevant as he did. I give him credit for a lot of things, but that doesn't change the fact that he tried to nuke the program as he left. That's unprofessional and unforgivable; as was throwing the Missouri game to make sure he got the UK job.

I’m sorry while I know Calipari skirts the line and did some horrible things on his way out the door, how exactly did he “throw the Missouri game”?

He allowed our players to stay out half the night and play hungover, and didn't make adjustments in the game, to the point a couple of our players took in their own hands to try to salvage the game at the end. Got it?

Well, no I don’t “Got it”. You want people to believe that Calipari in order to get the Kentucky job sooner allowed his players to go out the night before a sweet sixteen game, get drunk, and play hung over? You also want people to believe that Antonio Anderson who was the leader of that team let this go on? Furthermore all the assistant coaches said nothing and allowed it to happen? If this was really true and Cal attempted to throw the game don’t you think someone in the media would have picked up on it? The only mention of this has been on tiger message boards, there has been no other documentation or proof anywhere. In order for this to be true Cal had to be willing to throw away a chance at another Final Four and a possible National Championship just to get out of Memphis sooner. Don’t you think a second straight Final Four would have made him an even hotter commodity? Would the delay of a couple of weeks really have mattered? If Kentucky really wanted him would they not have waited? As far as adjustments, what should he have done? I will give you that Tyreke took over that game and tried to will us to victory but that is it. Cal was and is way to completive to throw ball games, I don’t think his ego would let him. Unless you were there and saw it I’m not buying it and I hope no one else does either. This sounds more like the Dana Kirk bet on the Villanova game conspiracy back in the 80’s. Oh and please don’t give me the “heard it from someone close to the program” nonsense.

You can choose to believe it or not believe it, but it happened.

Some hints: No one ever hung that many points on that team until that game.
Check the expression on Cal's face when he sat down on the bench right before the game started.
It had nothing to do with getting out of Memphis sooner; it had EVERYTHING to do with accepting the Ky job before other teams finished playing in the tournament and the coaching carousel began. It was absolutely ESSENTIAL that Cal leave Memphis, and he didn't want to risk losing his best opportunity. The man was sitting on a powder keg of the NCAA investigation, and had been for a while.
Kentucky was desperate and wanted him regardless if he won a NC for Memphis. What good would that do them? They hired him to win NC's for Kentucky, and they were willing to pay him more than we were. How could he have raised his paycheck even more by winning more that year? That was irrelevant to Ky.
Cal's ego is not so much tied up in winning games and NC's as it is in self-preservation, and getting players to the NBA.
Look at those tears on Tyreke's face at the end of the game. He knew what was going down.
Does any of this PROVE he threw the game? No.
And that, sir, is all I am going to tell you. Take what you like, leave the rest.

(03-28-2011 08:47 AM)tigertate Wrote:  You know, I really though I was over the coach X thing. Through the course of the regular season he and the UK team were totally irrelevant to me. It is funny to me how this hate started to rush back in as I saw X approaching the final 4 and perfectly set up the win the whole thing (i.e. playing a team that beat you earlier in the FF and having two mid majors on the other side). The reason I will probably never be totally over this is because we had a National Title in our hands and the D-bag pissed it away with his horrible bench coaching. Who know how long it may be before we get in that position again. To see him about to potentially win UK their 8th or 9th title after he pissed away a title here that we would have cherished forever really hurts. To know that coaches like Pearl and Sampson have been black balled by the NCAA while X is allowed to cheat and prosper really bugs me. For the life of me I can not understand how RC is such a dips#it that he did not realize that X was leaving. Any person with a lick of common sense would have realized that the dude was trying to get out. Knowing that he had that NCAA investigation information in his finger tips and let X move on to UK without putting that info out is unbelievable. RC is either the biggest idiot in the world or X could talk a nun out of her panties. Either way it really sucks. If we would have put that information out at the right time X would be coaching in Basketball hell like Nebraska or something. He would have probably won where ever he went, but at least the rich would not have gotten richer. I do not think I am even going to be able to watch the FF this weekend.

RC knew it. He is not THAT dumb. Just think about the LOI changes X made. And as to who Sherman can talk out of their panties, I will let you use your imagination.

(03-28-2011 09:09 AM)SL030676 Wrote:  

(03-28-2011 08:12 AM)transitt Wrote:  

(03-28-2011 08:07 AM)SL030676 Wrote:  

(03-28-2011 08:01 AM)transitt Wrote:  I've heard it from a player, a parent of a player, as well as a former calipari staff member. Does that count? Cal threw that game, period.

Ok, then Who?, Who?, and Who? You provide that instead of just namless statments and I can start to believe it. Because personally I dont think you heard it from anyone other than other message board posters

I won't name the parent, but rich hogans and tyreke just before he left campus in late April 09. My wife heard the same thing from his brother at the it's all good celebrity game that summer. I also know for an absolute fact that Stacie is good friends with a player from the 09 team so she isn't making things up either.

Well, since you won’t name the parent, we will through that one out. Im not sure why it would matter, every player except Laird and Witherspoon are gone (unless its them). As far as Tyreke and his brother goes, they aren’t here anymore so there is no way to verify that. However Hogans is still around, so what he supposedly told you can be verified. I really hope you really stand by your statements that Cal “threw the game” because I would hate to think that you have been exaggerating or misrepresenting what people said to fit your own little agenda. We will see…..

Many people know this. They do. And if you will look within your own riddle, you will see the answers.

To think anyone is going to name names on a public message board is asking too much. Believe it or don't. But it happened.

(03-28-2011 10:10 AM)MemphisTigers2009 Wrote:  I remember the whole FedEx orange jersey debacle with the fans and boosters- I believe that really pissed Cal off to the point where he lost his loyalty to the University of Memphis and made it easier for him to get on to Kentucky.

He never had an iota of loyalty to the University or the city, but that episode did anger him immensely.

He had been in the habit of calling the fans who irritated him "Miserables" for quite some time. He laughed about the culture of Memphis behind our backs, but he and his family did enjoy an ease of living here and the love and respect of Memphians that does not exist in Kentucky.

(03-28-2011 10:06 AM)newtiger Wrote:  

(03-28-2011 08:01 AM)transitt Wrote:  I've heard it from a player, a parent of a player, as well as a former calipari staff member. Does that count? Cal threw that game, period.

i head from someone in the alumni office that he game some of th guys on the team his credit card and told them to have a good time the night before th game. FWIW

If I never hear the name John Calipari again for the rest of my life, I would be a very happy individual. But as he is the coach at one of the most successful college basketball programs in the nation, that's kind of out my control.

Like someone has mentioned in another post, I had hoped Cal would have "flamed out" by now in the tournament, but hey it's out of our control.

I KY gets their backsides handed them by U-CON, (should be interesting, considering Cal and Calhoun don't like each other), but again, out of our control.

I also believe Cal will get "his" in one form or another...again, out of our control.

I will say this about Cal, he is a master recruiter and an excellent motivator. But that is eclipsed by the fact he is a liar and a cheat. Do I sit around all day and stick pins in a Calapari voodoo doll? No, but do not expect me to to be glad about any success he has. If they end up winning it all, believe me I won't be happy about it-at all. But as I did last month when my beloved Steelers lost the SB, I will have to get up in the morning the next day and move on with life. Simple as that.

All you Cal haters kill me. I don't care about him either way, but I am grateful he was our coach at a time when we needed him. Either you guys don't remember the Tic Price years or you're just choosing to neglect them but they were miserable. It sucks the way he left, obviously, but everyone posting on this board should have known he'd leave eventually. Year after year of him dangling other jobs at the university for more money should have shown everyone he wasn't a lifer here. It sucks that he took the entire recruiting class but let's be honest, if they hadn't gone to UK they would not have come here without Cal.