Torch,

Maybe I'm not being clear. I think there has been tomfoolery by both sides. I think when people on both sides cite the other side it's encouragemnet for the other side to cheat more. Does that make sense? I'm worried about all fraud, not just Republican fraud.

Seriously? A voting machine made a mistake, the mistake was caught and corrected the same night, and they made a documentary about it?

Conservative Takes Huge Lead in Wis. High Court Race


MADISON, Wis - Officials in Waukesha County on Thursday said a final review of paperwork and records from a closely watched Wisconsin Supreme Court election uncovered thousands of uncounted votes, a potentially stunning development that could upend the contest.

Unofficial returns on Wednesday gave the union-backed challenger, JoAnne Kloppenburg, a narrow 204 vote statewide lead over Republican David Prosser.

But late Thursday, the county clerk in Waukesha, a Republican stronghold, said workers had found 7,582 votes uncounted votes for Prosser.

News of the uncounted votes came as officials throughout Wisconsin were conducting county canvasses, a final review of voting records that allows the state to certify this week's bitterly contested elections.

The contest was widely seen as a referendum on Republican Governor Scott Walker and the controversial curbs on collective bargaining that he and his allies passed in the legislature.

Because Prosser, a former member of the state assembly, is a Republican who expressed support for Walker last fall, opponents characterized him as a proxy for the governor and his anti-union policies, which triggered massive protests and 16 recall campaigns targeting lawmakers who supported and opposed the measure.

Kathy Nickolaus, the Waukesha clerk, apologized for the uncounted votes and blamed "human error."

She said at a news conference that she had failed to properly save a spreadsheet showing one town's voting results.

"I'm thankful that this error was caught early in the process and during the canvass," Nickolaus said. "The purpose of the canvass is to catch these kinds of errors."

Even before the Waukesha clerk announced her discovery, any certification was unlikely to bring closure in the passionately fought contest, where the razor-thin margin Kloppenburg had used to claim victory was considered certain to lead to a recount.

If it happens it will be the first statewide recount in Wisconsin in more than 20 years, and could begin next week.

To help officials prepare, the state's Government Accountability Board sent out a memo stressing that local officials needed to "maintain all memory device and programing for the April 5, 2011 Spring Election in its original form."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/0...J920110408

I smell another documentary.

(04-07-2011 09:07 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  I smell another documentary.

Yep. Just read the end of that Reuters article.

(04-07-2011 08:30 PM)Paul M Wrote:  Seriously? A voting machine made a mistake, the mistake was caught and corrected the same night, and they made a documentary about it?

OK so a computer error kept 14K votes from going in last night... Now Pr is up about 7K votes. I'm a bit skeptical but it's far more likely than the votes found in peoples trunks and in store rooms during the Minnesota senate election.

Begin the circular recounts!

Interesting that a Republican operative found so many GOP votes a day after the election (it's up to 14K now).

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110408/ap_o...t_election

Quote:Nickolaus previously worked for a GOP caucus that was under the control of Justice David Prosser, who was speaker of the Assembly at the time and who now stands to benefit from the clerk's error.

"This is not a case of extra votes or extra ballots being found," Nickolaus said. "This is human error, which I apologize for."

14K votes that suddenly showed up is one hell of a "human error." But it probably was an honest mistake. We have no reason to doubt Ms. Nicklaus, do we?

Quote:Rep. Peter Barca, Democratic Assembly minority leader, said the mistake raises significant suspicion that could warrant an investigation.

"It doesn't instill confidence in her competence or integrity," Barca said.

Nickolaus was given immunity from prosecution in a 2002 criminal investigation into illegal activity by members of the Republican Assembly caucus where she worked as a data analyst and computer specialist. Prosser, who as speaker of the Assembly in 1995 and 1996 controlled the same caucus, was not part of the investigation. Nickolaus resigned from her state job in 2002 just before launching her county clerk campaign.

The corruption probe took down five legislative leaders, all of whom reached plea deals.

Well, maybe we do.

(04-07-2011 09:26 PM)the other Greg Childers Wrote:  Interesting that a Republican operative found so many GOP votes a day after the election (it's up to 14K now).

And it begins.

14K votes that suddenly showed up is one hell of a "human error." But it probably was an honest mistake. We have no reason to doubt Ms. Nicklaus, do we?

Quote:Rep. Peter Barca, Democratic Assembly minority leader, said the mistake raises significant suspicion that could warrant an investigation.

And it should... Just like more investigation of lost votes found in store rooms during the Minnesota Senate campaign would have been nice. They should count each end every vote counted agasint the total that is now reported.

I do know that some on the conservative side were surprised by the low turnout in that area. But if these had been found in Milwaukee I would be as suspicious as you are now.

This is why electronic voting has to end, I sure hop there is a real paper trail for this!

(04-06-2011 01:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  it's a pretty big endorsement of Walker and his policies.

I support Gov. Walker and I support Justice Prosser, but it has to be said loud and clear --

This clerk in Waukesha County has made one hell of a "mistake". I hope she(and everyone that works in her office) is ready, because she (and they) are about to be on the receiving end of some incredibly intense scrutiny -- professional, political, and personal. This whole thing is just incredible, and I hope for her sake there is a very bright, clear paper trail that confirms what she is claiming.

(04-07-2011 10:31 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I support Gov. Walker and I support Justice Prosser, but it has to be said loud and clear --

This clerk in Waukesha County has made one hell of a "mistake". I hope she(and everyone that works in her office) is ready, because she (and they) are about to be on the receiving end of some incredibly intense scrutiny -- professional, political, and personal. This whole thing is just incredible, and I hope for her sake there is a very bright, clear paper trail that confirms what she is claiming.

A resignation is most certainly in order...

(04-07-2011 10:49 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  A resignation is most certainly in order...

I would be willing -- if I had anything to do with it -- to wait and see how this whole thing shakes out before making a final decision on that. But just sitting here this minute reading about it online, that does seem to be the most probable outcome.

The clerk had a press conference this afternoon, and it seemed like she was just barely holding her composure. I think she knows she has ****** up in a huge way and will soon be looking for work in the private sector.

(04-07-2011 10:53 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-07-2011 10:49 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  A resignation is most certainly in order...

I would be willing -- if I had anything to do with it -- to wait and see how this whole thing shakes out before making a final decision on that. But just sitting here this minute reading about it online, that does seem to be the most probable outcome.

The clerk had a press conference this afternoon, and it seemed like she was just barely holding her composure. I think she knows she has ****** up in a huge way and will soon be looking for work in the private sector.

Good luck finding a job in private sector that has anything to do with counting.

heh.

(04-07-2011 11:08 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(04-07-2011 10:53 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-07-2011 10:49 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  A resignation is most certainly in order...

I would be willing -- if I had anything to do with it -- to wait and see how this whole thing shakes out before making a final decision on that. But just sitting here this minute reading about it online, that does seem to be the most probable outcome.

The clerk had a press conference this afternoon, and it seemed like she was just barely holding her composure. I think she knows she has ****** up in a huge way and will soon be looking for work in the private sector.

Good luck finding a job in private sector that has anything to do with counting.

Oh, come on. She could make change as good as any other fast food employee.

Prosser ahead by enough votes to avoid a recount. It appears to be over.

I agree with the libs. It's a mandate.

The praise of Walker and his policies are overwhelming. The liibers are right.