http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41858048/ns/...?gt1=43001

Democracy is fine, as long as you're winning.

There is no shortage of people with good intentions and absolutely ludicrous ideas.

According to the article the county has more conservatives than liberals. What does he hope to gain? Anyway, it's good to know they've got their immigration and all their other problems fixed and now have the time to deal with this stuff. BTW, weren't Arizona's lawmakers criticized for using up time and resources writing legislation that everyone said would not stand up to a legal challenge?

(03-02-2011 04:13 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  There is no shortage of people with good intentions and absolutely ludicrous ideas.

That ship sailed about 146 years ago. Even for people out in the desert, you'd think the word would have gotten to them by now.

This is as good of a thread to say this, I suppose. But you have to at least admire the new crop of governors actually trying to address and fix budget issues across the states, even if there's some disagreement about how they're going about doing it.

It's like years and years of Mommy giving candy and sweets to their kids, making them fat and dependent. And now here comes mean ol' Daddy to cut off the gravy train and find ways to pay down the household debt.

You don't like the budget skimming and cuts? Well, once the budget is finally balanced, start demonstrating some fiscal responsibility. It's like the 2008 housing bubble still hasn't taught people a valuable lesson. Wildly overspending beyond your means in an insta-gratification frenzy without some sort of exit strategy is not wise.

You make some valid points MB, but it seems to me that you are implying the housing bubble was the fault of the homeowners alone. Can you clarify this please?

(03-03-2011 08:13 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  You make some valid points MB, but it seems to me that you are implying the housing bubble was the fault of the homeowners alone. Can you clarify this please?

No, not them alone. Blame is spread around: The ignorant banks, the government, the homeowner. And of course it's on a case by case basis. Some willingly overspent to keep up with the Joneses, the young newlywed couple who just needed the new construction big box home right off the bat - no small, older starter home. Some were legitimately screwed. And there's everything in between.

Now having said that, your local bank can run credit reports on you and review your salary until their faces turn blue. But only you know your spending habits and budget plans intimately. How many kids you're going to have... 1 or 5? And are they going to public schools or top-shelf private schools? The type of cars you'll want to buy... BMWs or Ford Focuses? You get the idea.

What is always funny is that those wackos are exactly what they accuse other of;

un american
unconstitutional (free reign for illegals)
fringe
and so on.