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(11-16-2010 02:26 PM)flashesfan21 Wrote:  

(11-15-2010 07:17 PM)dannyb73 Wrote:  Well folks, I am off to dinner and then to the Fed Ex Forum to watch the opening game of the 24 hour hoops marathon, Memphis/Miami,FL. - Then home for about 5 hours sleep until time for KSU to tip it off against Robert Morris. Everyone going, have fun and be loud. Holla.

From what I understand, Tigers kicked some Miami tail!! I have been a Memphis fan since my sister was at St. Jude! She is doing fine now, and this was in the day of Keith Lee and company! GO TIGERS AND KSU!!!!

Well, they didn't exactly dominate, but they came away with the win. If you look at the boxscore you won't understand how. Memphis got POUNDED on the glass (51-31) and there were almost 60 fouls called in the game, with 75 FT, so it was choppy and ugly. The Tigers just made a few more plays in the end when it mattered most. Great game and great atmosphere. PS - Glad your sister is doing well !

(11-16-2010 12:50 PM)thanksjim Wrote:  Superfan was heard loud throughout the nation this morning. On the ESPN marathon blog they just could not get enough of her (sarcasm)

Here's some of the finest:

"I think I now hate Kent State just for that lady's incessant screeching."

"The Screeching Woman is like Michael Jordan: She just gets stronger as the game goes on."

"I fell asleep and woke up to the woman SCREECHING on my TV....thought it I left it on a horror movie...nope just that lady at the Kent State basketball game."

The rest can be found here:

http://espn.go.com/blog/CollegeBasketbal...athon-live

I just know that players from DeAndre Haynes to Josh Cribbs have commented that they love the energy Super Fan brings. Like burden, I know a little bit about her. If screeching for KSU brings her a little bit of joy, have at it.

(11-16-2010 12:50 PM)thanksjim Wrote:  Superfan was heard loud throughout the nation this morning. On the ESPN marathon blog they just could not get enough of her (sarcasm)

Here's some of the finest:

"I think I now hate Kent State just for that lady's incessant screeching."

"The Screeching Woman is like Michael Jordan: She just gets stronger as the game goes on."

"I fell asleep and woke up to the woman SCREECHING on my TV....thought it I left it on a horror movie...nope just that lady at the Kent State basketball game."

The rest can be found here:

http://espn.go.com/blog/CollegeBasketbal...athon-live

Ive been by super fan many, many times in my life and yeah it gets tiresome sometimes. If we could get a crowd of fans with her heart and tone the screeching down Kent would be impossible for other teams to play in.

I was in the upper deck when they asked everyone to go to the lower bowl. Something I was truly proud of when they did it. We have to make it look full for the national games. But after moving I had a nice lady behind me that had me begging to be next to super fan. The ears can take only so much when it comes to high pitched noises and this lady was borderline the whole game. First time I have left a game with a head ache.

Thank goodness that stupid technical by Holt did not cost us! Again, another situation that Geno just has to get a hold on ASAP! Manns was huge in the second half, and Greene is money at the foul line. The thing that made me most proud was how the Flashes came back after trailing by double digits. It's not just that they came back, but that was their 4th game in 5 days, and you know those guys couldn't have had much left in the tank. And when the legs go, not only are you slow on defense, but the shooting motion starts in the lower body and when the you have tired legs your shooting suffers. They guys dug down and really looked like they are finding each other.....great baseline pass from Gaines to Henninger for an easy one!

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/...l_han.html

Next time we see this screwball at the MAC Center will be too soon.

Sultan Im sure your the one to go to for this question. I was wondering why the band cut most of the songs out from last year? It seemed as if they played the same 3 or 4 songs over and over. I think during the comeback it would have been the perfect time to play p. diddys bad boys for life song. It was the go to song in years past.

For those that dont know the song at the 1:05 mark is the chorus and the part that applies to Kent. Switch out bad boys for Kent State and its perfect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRIU_iO-wek

(11-16-2010 10:57 PM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  Sultan Im sure your the one to go to for this question. I was wondering why the band cut most of the songs out from last year? It seemed as if they played the same 3 or 4 songs over and over. I think during the comeback it would have been the perfect time to play p. diddys bad boys for life song. It was the go to song in years past.

For those that dont know the song at the 1:05 mark is the chorus and the part that applies to Kent. Switch out bad boys for Kent State and its perfect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRIU_iO-wek

It's all about SANDSTORM. :ncaabbs:

(11-16-2010 10:57 PM)ilovegymnast Wrote:  Sultan Im sure your the one to go to for this question. I was wondering why the band cut most of the songs out from last year? It seemed as if they played the same 3 or 4 songs over and over. I think during the comeback it would have been the perfect time to play p. diddys bad boys for life song. It was the go to song in years past.

For those that dont know the song at the 1:05 mark is the chorus and the part that applies to Kent. Switch out bad boys for Kent State and its perfect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRIU_iO-wek

They do want to cut down on the enormous song list (I was sad years ago when we eliminated "Sing, Sing, Sing") but the real reason for this game is that it is still marching band season and there have been few to no rehearsals for the basketball band. In fact I would say the Flasher Brass does not truly exist at this time of year. So right now they have the limited song list from the marching band.

On a second note if you miss a song make sure you let the band director know as I was talking to a member of the band and they are purging music left and right. In addition the band is having trouble because our stuff is being legislated out, for instance we are no longer able to throw confetti at basketball games (well maybe you all do not miss it but I do). If you wanted to hear "Rock and Roll part 2" you won't because of negative cheering (Hey you suck cheer). The band is becoming more tame and less of a presence in the MACC. I remember in 2003 or 2004 the band getting the BGSU coach to get a technical foul by mocking his bald head, and that may be why they moved us to the other side of the building .

The P-diddy song is out of this world and should be played pre-game, in game, all game!

On to the basketball. After watching the recording of the game here are my reactions:

1) Getting the offense to be more cohesive is a key to this early part of the season. No doubt Greene is the number one option, but as the announcers on ESPN said, Kent State needs to do a better job of swinging the ball around the perimeter to open things up for Greene (or any big man for that matter). The lazy passes by Porrini and Guyton in particular are killer. They must be able to get into good sets without throwing the ball away.

2) Manns is DI material. I don't mean to be captain obvious, but I had my doubts coming into the season. He can disrupt shots without fouling, he can clearly block shots and if teams don't account for him on the offensive glass, look out. He will bring energy to the building with his throw downs and it seems to me that he is a capable free throw shooter. When he consistently gets to the right spots on defense....look out!

3) Gaines is a big key. The kid can play. He has a nice frame and I don't see him backing down from anybody. Every quality minute that he gives is just going to be huge for Kent State from a depth perspective and a defensive prospective.

4) Guyton reminds me, in some ways, of Youngblood. He can create his own shot, has a nice (not great) jumper and wants the ball. That said, it seems to me he needs to figure out the difference between good looks and simply chucking it. I figure for now he is option number 3 at best when Kent is running what they truly want to offensively. I don't want to see him shooting 10 seconds into the shot clock in close ballgames. Don't get me wrong though, I know he has the ability to go off.

Thats enough for now.

(11-17-2010 08:41 AM)fallsdog Wrote:  The P-diddy song is out of this world and should be played pre-game, in game, all game!

On to the basketball. After watching the recording of the game here are my reactions:

1) Getting the offense to be more cohesive is a key to this early part of the season. No doubt Greene is the number one option, but as the announcers on ESPN said, Kent State needs to do a better job of swinging the ball around the perimeter to open things up for Greene (or any big man for that matter). The lazy passes by Porrini and Guyton in particular are killer. They must be able to get into good sets without throwing the ball away.

2) Manns is DI material. I don't mean to be captain obvious, but I had my doubts coming into the season. He can disrupt shots without fouling, he can clearly block shots and if teams don't account for him on the offensive glass, look out. He will bring energy to the building with his throw downs and it seems to me that he is a capable free throw shooter. When he consistently gets to the right spots on defense....look out!

3) Gaines is a big key. The kid can play. He has a nice frame and I don't see him backing down from anybody. Every quality minute that he gives is just going to be huge for Kent State from a depth perspective and a defensive prospective.

4) Guyton reminds me, in some ways, of Youngblood. He can create his own shot, has a nice (not great) jumper and wants the ball. That said, it seems to me he needs to figure out the difference between good looks and simply chucking it. I figure for now he is option number 3 at best when Kent is running what they truly want to offensively. I don't want to see him shooting 10 seconds into the shot clock in close ballgames. Don't get me wrong though, I know he has the ability to go off.

Thats enough for now.

Nice analysis! Right on target. (Meaning, I agree!)

If you think Elton's article was bad read the one in the Beacon. They even ripped us for marketing football too much and ignoring basketball. I thought the crowd was a little light yesterday but anybody expecting 5000+ was dreaming. All of our other ESPN crowds were in Jan uary through March when the crowds are naturally large. Robert Morris in November on a Saturday night would draw 2500 tops. Expecting more than that at 8AM was unrealistic. I don't think marketing would have helped much. People do have to work and a vacation day is not an option for most.

Well, Elton is awful. We all know it, so what's the surprise? The thing that kills me is that he has a paying job. There are so many unemployed people that could do what he does better, but that would mean that his managers are competent (and after all, read the rest of the paper and realize that there is a systematic problem with good writing at the PD, so it really comes from the leadership). So Elton is set for now, until the PD goes under and then he'll be trying to find a job with no skills and a weak portfolio competing against 23-year-olds that are willing to bust their butts to improve their craft.

I didn't know Akron still has a paper.

I watched the game on TV and it was very hard to tell the attendance because the lower section looked filled. I know to look for the upper deck to get a general sense of attendance, but who but someone who attends game in the MACC center would know that. And I only saw one shot where I could tell that no one was up there (in the second half). So the game looked fine on TV, with the possible exception of RMU playing so well in the first half that they focused on RMU fans that made the trip (kudos to those RMU fans).

Just finished reading the ABJ article about the game. It actually made some decent points.

Lefton not adjusting the academic schedule was idiotic, yet not surprising. He will just never, ever get what sports means to an institution of higher learning. Lefton needs to realize ESPN is probably never going to come to Bowman Hall to televise a psychology lecture or history exam live.

The bottom line is KSU does not have a great student fan base. The ones who consistently come and support are phenomenal but it's such a miniscule number compared to what could be there. At some schools they wake up well before our game was tipped just to have the OPPORTUNITY to get tickets for a future game.

(11-17-2010 10:04 AM)bopol Wrote:  Well, Elton is awful. We all know it, so what's the surprise? The thing that kills me is that he has a paying job. There are so many unemployed people that could do what he does better, but that would mean that his managers are competent (and after all, read the rest of the paper and realize that there is a systematic problem with good writing at the PD, so it really comes from the leadership). So Elton is set for now, until the PD goes under and then he'll be trying to find a job with no skills and a weak portfolio competing against 23-year-olds that are willing to bust their butts to improve their craft.

I didn't know Akron still has a paper.

I watched the game on TV and it was very hard to tell the attendance because the lower section looked filled. I know to look for the upper deck to get a general sense of attendance, but who but someone who attends game in the MACC center would know that. And I only saw one shot where I could tell that no one was up there (in the second half). So the game looked fine on TV, with the possible exception of RMU playing so well in the first half that they focused on RMU fans that made the trip (kudos to those RMU fans).

Agree with bopol. Most of the national TV audience had no idea how many people were in attendance. It looked full. We got what we needed from ESPN on the game and replays all day. And, given the quality of some of their analysts, thank GOD they don’t teach anything.

Name a single University President who would modify an academic calendar for a tip off time and I’ll sell you my ocean front land.

Gordon Gee just did it two years ago.

How many acres do I get? =)

(11-17-2010 11:06 AM)JimJoyce Wrote:  Gordon Gee just did it two years ago.

How many acres do I get? =)

Oh, why am I not surprised that tOSU would have its priorities upside down. Makes me proud of my Northwestern cheer:
Hey you Buckeyes, don’t you fuss
‘Cause someday you’ll work for us

BUT, you can purchase my ocean front lot just outside of Santa Fe. Got to wait until the big one hits Cali first.

(11-16-2010 11:51 PM)Sultan of Euphonistan Wrote:  They do want to cut down on the enormous song list (I was sad years ago when we eliminated "Sing, Sing, Sing") but the real reason for this game is that it is still marching band season and there have been few to no rehearsals for the basketball band. In fact I would say the Flasher Brass does not truly exist at this time of year. So right now they have the limited song list from the marching band.

On a second note if you miss a song make sure you let the band director know as I was talking to a member of the band and they are purging music left and right. In addition the band is having trouble because our stuff is being legislated out, for instance we are no longer able to throw confetti at basketball games (well maybe you all do not miss it but I do). If you wanted to hear "Rock and Roll part 2" you won't because of negative cheering (Hey you suck cheer). The band is becoming more tame and less of a presence in the MACC. I remember in 2003 or 2004 the band getting the BGSU coach to get a technical foul by mocking his bald head, and that may be why they moved us to the other side of the building .

I wont mind that the playlist gets cut back but if they do that it better be for songs with student participation. Also need to keep the songs upbeat to keep the students going. They have always done a great job at the basketball games for the recent years that my memory allows me to retain. Thanks for replying Sultan.

Couple observations from yesterday. All and all good and seems to be alot of raw immature athleticism

1) Gaines and Porrini are gritty but man someone needs to get with them and fine tune their shooting form. Gaines shoots a joakim noah knuckle ball. Those 2 are not and likely will not be consistent shooters until they make changes. Doesnt mean they cant be productive as i really like what i saw from Gaines. Porrini needs to mature (i.e based on sunday T and demeanor yesterday).

2) Think people are way way overstating the potential on Manns but then again this forum loved Parks for 5 years. Robert Morris had no bigs and Manns got pushed around quite a bit, had marginal hands and generally looked out of sorts. He'll be servicable but anyone dreaming of even MAC honorable mention i think is way off base.

3) Don't understand what Gino's intent with is on Henniger. He played about 3 minutes looked strong and ran the floor well, scored a bucket and that was it. If there arent minutes to be had then we should redshirt him. Since we have no sr post players maybe he is having them compete for minutes this year and then the guy without minutes will redshirt next year as a soph?

4) i hope yesterday's attendance was a function of time not a glimpse of future. I worry that Nielsen's focus on football will come at the detriment of our beloved hoops. if that happens we're doomed and we all need to voice our opinions loud and oftern.

(11-17-2010 01:16 PM)ksu315 Wrote:  Couple observations from yesterday. All and all good and seems to be alot of raw immature athleticism

1) Gaines and Porrini are gritty but man someone needs to get with them and fine tune their shooting form. Gaines shoots a joakim noah knuckle ball. Those 2 are not and likely will not be consistent shooters until they make changes. Doesnt mean they cant be productive as i really like what i saw from Gaines. Porrini needs to mature (i.e based on sunday T and demeanor yesterday).

2) Think people are way way overstating the potential on Manns but then again this forum loved Parks for 5 years. Robert Morris had no bigs and Manns got pushed around quite a bit, had marginal hands and generally looked out of sorts. He'll be servicable but anyone dreaming of even MAC honorable mention i think is way off base.

3) Don't understand what Gino's intent with is on Henniger. He played about 3 minutes looked strong and ran the floor well, scored a bucket and that was it. If there arent minutes to be had then we should redshirt him. Since we have no sr post players maybe he is having them compete for minutes this year and then the guy without minutes will redshirt next year as a soph?

4) i hope yesterday's attendance was a function of time not a glimpse of future. I worry that Nielsen's focus on football will come at the detriment of our beloved hoops. if that happens we're doomed and we all need to voice our opinions loud and oftern.

WRT to Porrini, I like his rebounding, but him shooting less might be a good idea. WRT to Henninger, I agree, I don't get it. WRT to attendance, I think it was a function of the time. I don't think Nielsen will let basketball suffer for the sake of football; my belief is that he sees football as the missing piece in an otherwise elite athletic program.

Why would marketing football hurt basketball attendance? They never marketed basketball anyway. Who knows maybe a few people who tailgated too much will wander over after a game and watch some basketball. I just think both the ABJ and the PD highlighted the negative (as usual) and made Kent look bad to people who know little about the school's athletic program (essentiaaly everyone).