and NO **** with the Drudge Report................................ Just plastered with the D's........................... Wow I bet if we went to a Daily Kos website it would be plastered with R's.............................. Are you seriously that thick..........................

http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html

(10-27-2010 03:26 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  and NO **** with the Drudge Report................................ Just plastered with the D's........................... Wow I bet if we went to a Daily Kos website it would be plastered with R's.............................. Are you seriously that thick..........................

Go to Daily Kooks and get back with us. You seem to be taking the, "well, there are cases of Republicans doing it, so it's ok for us" approach.

Good work Dem...wits!!

No, short bus, I'm not ok with any part of a fraudulent election.

(10-27-2010 03:28 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html

Once again Mach, proof please. "Results didn't match exit polls" is proof that the exit polls were wrong.

One of three things are in play here.

1. You are selective about your indignations.

2. You're ignorant about fraud that has favored Republicans.

3. There are cases of D's doing it so I'm ok with R's doing it.


I'm not ok with anyone doing it and it's "THE FUNDAMENTAL" part of a democracy. (Save the bytes on the democracy bit Torch) An effective governing body must be seen as the rightful winner. I predict going forward the majority of the time we will see both sides say the other side cheated until we fix this. That's the main reason I support all types of voter reforms. **** happens and only the ignorant thinks it goes one way. It's an effective tool to blunt an opponents agenda. I want it fixed. It's not fair to either side. It did considerable damage to W's agenda.

....and fraud is "THE FUNDAMENTAL" part of the DNC.

(10-27-2010 03:28 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html

Wow. Undocumented anecdotal accounts compiled and summarized on the web site of an advocacy group. Looks convincing to me.

(10-28-2010 08:10 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-27-2010 03:28 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  http://www.flcv.com/fraudpat.html

Wow. Undocumented anecdotal accounts compiled and summarized on the web site of an advocacy group. Looks convincing to me.

But the unfounded, illegitimate statistical analysis make it "science".

Undocumented anecdotal accounts

You guys do realize that this is what started this thread. I hope that didn't escape you.

(10-28-2010 09:34 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Undocumented anecdotal accounts

You guys do realize that this is what started this thread. I hope that didn't escape you.

How are they not documented?

From Herd's article:

Man said he voted straight-party ticket and got opposite results”

“A Craven County voter says he had a near miss at the polls on Thursday when an electronic voting machine completed his straight-party ticket for the opposite of what he intended.

Sam Laughinghouse of New Bern said he pushed the button to vote Republican in all races, but the voting machine screen displayed a ballot with all Democrats checked. He cleared the screen and tried again with the same result, he said. Then he asked for and received help from election staff.

“They pushed it twice and the same thing happened,” Laughinghouse said. “That was four times in a row. The fifth time they pushed it and the Republicans came up and I voted.”


From my link:

Reports from voters in Florida, New Mexico, Ohio, and elsewhere (especially other swing states) documented that many touchscreen voting machines appeared to have been set with a "Default to Bush". The "Default to Bush" could be changed only if a voter successfully selected another candidate. But it appears that in many cases the voters did not successfully override the "Default to Bush," in some cases because they did not notice the problem and in other cases because it was difficult or impossible to get the machine to accept another candidate. This was a major problem in New Mexico and Mahoning and Franklin counties in Ohio. There were also problems with "Default to Bush in the "Big Three" Florida counties: Palm Beach, Broward and Dade, and elsewhere in Pinellas, Hillsboro, Pasco, Sarasota and Lee.



With you guy's it's pre-meditated and willful.

(10-28-2010 01:00 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  With you guy's it's pre-meditated and willful.

Well, we do know the Dims.