http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/rankin...nking.html

We move up one spot to 13th, but how is Egypt is 9th and up 3 spots? Yes, they won the African Nations Cup, but come on!

FIFA rankings are worthless, they don't take into account the compeition the match is in nor other factors.

Elo ratings >>> FIFA rankings. What a pile of garbage.

Elo Ratings as of July 11

1. Spain
2. Brazil
3. Netherlands
4. Germany
5. Argentina
6. England
7. Croatia
8. Uruguay
9. Portugal
10. Chile
11. Mexico
12. Egypt
13. Italy
14. Russia
15. Serbia
16. Ukraine
17. Turkey
18. Sweden
19. Australia
20. Ghana
20. Paraguay
22. Ivory Coast
23. Switzerland
24. France
25. USA

Also, here's Soccer Power Index at ESPNsoccernet. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/spi/ranking...901&ver=us

Somehow, Spain isn't number one, although the site says it was updated as of today. Doesn't appear to be so, though.

ESPN's I can someone agree with although it doesn't look updated.

ESPN's was done by Nate Silver of fivethirtyeight.com and Baseball Prospectus. I like his style.

(07-15-2010 02:32 PM)TN_Tiger Wrote:  Elo Ratings as of July 11

1. Spain
2. Brazil
3. Netherlands
4. Germany
5. Argentina
6. England
7. Croatia
8. Uruguay
9. Portugal
10. Chile
11. Mexico
12. Egypt
13. Italy
14. Russia
15. Serbia
16. Ukraine
17. Turkey
18. Sweden
19. Australia
20. Ghana
20. Paraguay
22. Ivory Coast
23. Switzerland
24. France
25. USA

That doesn't make any sense either!

(07-15-2010 02:47 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(07-15-2010 02:32 PM)TN_Tiger Wrote:  Elo Ratings as of July 11

1. Spain
2. Brazil
3. Netherlands
4. Germany
5. Argentina
6. England
7. Croatia
8. Uruguay
9. Portugal
10. Chile
11. Mexico
12. Egypt
13. Italy
14. Russia
15. Serbia
16. Ukraine
17. Turkey
18. Sweden
19. Australia
20. Ghana
20. Paraguay
22. Ivory Coast
23. Switzerland
24. France
25. USA

That doesn't make any sense either!

Yeah, how the heck are we 25th and behind France?!?!?

(07-15-2010 03:11 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  

(07-15-2010 02:47 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(07-15-2010 02:32 PM)TN_Tiger Wrote:  Elo Ratings as of July 11

1. Spain
2. Brazil
3. Netherlands
4. Germany
5. Argentina
6. England
7. Croatia
8. Uruguay
9. Portugal
10. Chile
11. Mexico
12. Egypt
13. Italy
14. Russia
15. Serbia
16. Ukraine
17. Turkey
18. Sweden
19. Australia
20. Ghana
20. Paraguay
22. Ivory Coast
23. Switzerland
24. France
25. USA

That doesn't make any sense either!

Yeah, how the heck are we 25th and behind France?!?!?

And Egypt, & Australia, & Mexico, & ......

Any ranking that puts Egypt in the top 20 should be scrapped.

I'm not sure why FIFA doesn't take the order of finish from the World Cup and make that the top 32. Then again, South Africa doesn't deserve such a ranking since they got the auto-placement as host country.

I don't know what's perfect, but having teams that did worse than us or didn't make the tournament in front of the U.S. just doesn't seem right.

(07-18-2010 09:19 PM)TN_Tiger Wrote:  I'm not sure why FIFA doesn't take the order of finish from the World Cup and make that the top 32. Then again, South Africa doesn't deserve such a ranking since they got the auto-placement as host country.

I don't know what's perfect, but having teams that did worse than us or didn't make the tournament in front of the U.S. just doesn't seem right.

I do understand that Spain is number 1 because they won, but should not been Holland been second since they made the World Cup Finals in South Africa just about a week ago in the Elo Ratings? England is sixth in the Elo Ratings? What gives with this rakings of those teams by the way?

(07-18-2010 09:29 PM)BARTLETTTIGER Wrote:  

(07-18-2010 09:19 PM)TN_Tiger Wrote:  I'm not sure why FIFA doesn't take the order of finish from the World Cup and make that the top 32. Then again, South Africa doesn't deserve such a ranking since they got the auto-placement as host country.

I don't know what's perfect, but having teams that did worse than us or didn't make the tournament in front of the U.S. just doesn't seem right.

I do understand that Spain is number 1 because they won, but should not been Holland been second since they made the World Cup Finals in South Africa just about a week ago in the Elo Ratings? England is sixth in the Elo Ratings? What gives with this rakings of those teams by the way?

Elo is supposed to take into account the type of match (i.e. World Cup has the most notoriety), result of the match, expected result, goal differential, and the team's old ratings.

I still fail to see how Egypt gets so highly ranked for winning the African Cup of Nations, but not qualifying for the World Cup. Doesn't make sense.