(06-11-2010 02:49 PM)HuskiemobileMan Wrote:  Had a playoff system been in place already, most of the BS taking place in college football would have been avoided. You don't see this happening in college basketball. The NCAA needs to step in and take control of FBS football like it does with all other sports.

The only problem is that the big conferences own the NCAA. They can do whatever they please - unless, of course, they are caught with their pants down violating NCAA regulations. Then, they get a little slap on the wrist.

USC is fighting their sanctions. Let's see how that fiasco ultimately ends up.

Any idea how many votes it would actually take to institute an NCAA run FBS playoff?

If it were a straight vote of all 120 FBS institutions, assuming leagues voted together you have the MAC- 13, SBC- 9, CUSA- 12, WAC- 8 and maybe you could get the MWC members on board for 10 more. That's 52, not even a simple majority. If it were a simple majority you'd need 9 schools concerned enough about losing their status to get it done. And if it requires some kind of super-majority then I can definitely see why it never seriously comes up.

(06-11-2010 06:53 PM)DogTracks Wrote:  Any idea how many votes it would actually take to institute an NCAA run FBS playoff?

If it were a straight vote of all 120 FBS institutions, assuming leagues voted together you have the MAC- 13, SBC- 9, CUSA- 12, WAC- 8 and maybe you could get the MWC members on board for 10 more. That's 52, not even a simple majority. If it were a simple majority you'd need 9 schools concerned enough about losing their status to get it done. And if it requires some kind of super-majority then I can definitely see why it never seriously comes up.

I'm not sure if this is true of that type of decision, but I believe it is 62.5% needed for a sport to become an official NCAA-sanctioned athletic event. If that held true in this case, you'd need 75 votes for a playoff, which is unlikely to happen.

That's just a guess though, since the sport is already NCAA-sanctioned, the process for creating a playoff may be entirely different.

I can't wait to see what happens when the NCAA realizes how much money they will be losing to conferences after this.

BCS hastoo be history, either that or there will be a lot of pretty boy schools staying home from bowl season this year (wouldn't mind either one)

(06-10-2010 01:58 PM)NIU Chicago Wrote:  Baylor will go with all the other Texas schools to the PAC.

If the remaining B12 schools stick together, they will be in a good position. KU, KSU, ISU, Mizzou(assuming that the B10 doesn't offer them membership which looks to be the case) and Baylor will be collecting exit fees from the 7 teams leaving the B12. The 7 teams leaving the conference also will not be sharing in the hoops $ that UK, KSU & Baylor earned the B12 from the 2010 tournament once they leave the conference which will amount to millions.

Those 5 will be attractive to both the MWC and the BE. BE will be the best hoops conference in the nation if those 5 are added to it.

(06-10-2010 03:30 PM)HuskieFan84 Wrote:  NIU Chicago, how is the Big 10 a joke? They got exactly what they wanted? Not only that they broke up the Big 12. They completely changed the college sports landscape, how are they the joke? The Big 12 is the joke, and this is coming from a guy who hates the Big 10. It was masterful work by the Big 10 (if you're a fan of their league).

The 5 remaining B12 members will likely merge with the football playing members of the BE to form a new conference but keep the B12 name so they can get all the exit fee $ from the 7 that are leaving/have left the B12. BE was already great in hoops with the hybrid formula they had, you add those 5 to the football playing teams and you haven't lost anything in terms of hoops.

From reading the St. Louis news, they think the SEC is a possibility for Missouri. There is no mention of the BE.

(06-12-2010 12:32 PM)niu79 Wrote:  From reading the St. Louis news, they think the SEC is a possibility for Missouri. There is no mention of the BE.

And Missouri/St. Louis fans and media seem to be the only group that has mentioned that. I think it's kind of their fallback *hope* if they end up out in the cold after this is all done. The SEC does make some sense for Mizzou.

There are articles floating around right now about the Big East possibly going after the Big 12 leftovers:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/sports...37294.html

(06-10-2010 04:00 PM)Rock Bottom Wrote:  NIU's management of this must be TERRIBLE. We should have been selling our potential TV market - how many grads do we have in the Chicago area - almost 1,000,000 or something like that??? If NIU was in the Big 10 or some other name conference I have no doubt within 10 years we'd be a powerhouse. The problem is we are stuck in this Catch-22 situation and stuck in the P.O.S. conference (otherwise know as the MAC).

A milllion alumni in Chicago? Uh no. In Nov. 2007, Joe Matty gave these numbers: 205,000 overall--115,000-120,000 in the Chicago area.

Here is the video--info comes at the 1:45 mark.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an9rQeh7hhE

(06-12-2010 02:39 PM)NIU70 Wrote:  

(06-10-2010 04:00 PM)Rock Bottom Wrote:  NIU's management of this must be TERRIBLE. We should have been selling our potential TV market - how many grads do we have in the Chicago area - almost 1,000,000 or something like that??? If NIU was in the Big 10 or some other name conference I have no doubt within 10 years we'd be a powerhouse. The problem is we are stuck in this Catch-22 situation and stuck in the P.O.S. conference (otherwise know as the MAC).

A milllion alumni in Chicago? Uh no. In Nov. 2007, Joe Matty gave these numbers: 205,000 overall--115,000-120,000 in the Chicago area.

Here is the video--info comes at the 1:45 mark.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an9rQeh7hhE

That makes sense when you do the math - I'd like to say it was a typo and I added an extra zero, but I didn't. However, if you counted everyone in the area who WENT (not graduated) to NIU in the area I bet it approaches 200,000. But even the 115,000 is FAR more alumni in the Chicago than any Big 10 team except Illinois, so it seems like there is POTENTIAL, but potential is worthless if not realized.

Actually, U of I Alums tend to move to other parts of the country more than NIU grads, so the number of Alumi in the area is closer to being even than the graduation numbers would indicate.