(06-07-2010 05:43 PM)troy4ever21 Wrote:  

and what do you have.....partial qualifier talk

(06-07-2010 05:43 PM)troy4ever21 Wrote:  

Just ignore him.

NT Critic

You still have not answered my question "why are you so dedicated to attacking NT at every chance". You seem to delight in debunking stats thrown out and data that puts NT in any positive light. Most publicity coming out of any school or business is going to focus on the good. You, in effect do the same thing only in reverse relative to UNT. Obviously you are on a vendetta against NT and any "for the good of the University" facade is not going to work long with anyone familiar with your antics.

FYI, apparently the newly enacted student athletic fees can be used for athletic operating expenses and can be increased at will up to 10%annually pending state statues by the BOR. Whether this translates to additional operating funds any time soon is certainly debatable.

As far as this being a good venue for debate, just because they are still accepting your posts does not mean subject matter that is far afield from college athletes is appropriate. The Bataille/Jackson debacle has a lot of us very concerned, but unlike you; most don't think posting on a sports board is either germane or effective.

I have no disdain or dislike for you, I just wonder why you are so obsessed. If you ever presented a more balanced point of view, you might get a little more support for your ideas.

NT is not a perfect institution but neither is any other. I personally have attended six different universities and had some issues with all of them, but at the same time they all had positives.

(06-07-2010 06:41 PM)Grandgreen Wrote:  NT Critic

You still have not answered my question "why are you so dedicated to attacking NT at every chance". You seem to delight in debunking stats thrown out and data that puts NT in any positive light. Most publicity coming out of any school or business is going to focus on the good. You, in effect do the same thing only in reverse relative to UNT. Obviously you are on a vendetta against NT and any "for the good of the University" facade is not going to work long with anyone familiar with your antics.

FYI, apparently the newly enacted student athletic fees can be used for athletic operating expenses and can be increased at will up to 10%annually pending state statues by the BOR. Whether this translates to additional operating funds any time soon is certainly debatable.

As far as this being a good venue for debate, just because they are still accepting your posts does not mean subject matter that is far afield from college athletes is appropriate. The Bataille/Jackson debacle has a lot of us very concerned, but unlike you; most don't think posting on a sports board is either germane or effective.

I have no disdain or dislike for you, I just wonder why you are so obsessed. If you ever presented a more balanced point of view, you might get a little more support for your ideas.

NT is not a perfect institution but neither is any other. I personally have attended six different universities and had some issues with all of them, but at the same time they all had positives.

I think that I remember this guy - if it is the same guy, he was "lied to" about the engineering program and decided to tell UNT to take a hike. Not sure why he would come onto the Sun Belt board and spout off about his hatred, the guys on here could really care less.

Mods - can you go ahead move this to the Smack Board? This has turned into Smack Talk at this point. The NT fans can argue over there if they choose to.

(06-06-2010 10:45 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  Nice, but it's not an "on-campus" stadium and it does not belong to UTSA. Tell me again, when does UTSA hope to play it's first football game?

Dude, I was bowing to homeboy's rants. He has some obsession with UNT, but everything he says is true. And its funny to see you guys deny it.

The stadium is my signature, and please don't start comparing programs.

(06-07-2010 08:23 PM)UTSAisgreaterthanUNT Wrote:  

(06-06-2010 10:45 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  Nice, but it's not an "on-campus" stadium and it does not belong to UTSA. Tell me again, when does UTSA hope to play it's first football game?

Dude, I was bowing to homeboy's rants. He has some obsession with UNT, but everything he says is true. And its funny to see you guys deny it.

The stadium is my signature, and please don't start comparing programs.

(06-07-2010 08:23 PM)UTSAisgreaterthanUNT Wrote:  

(06-06-2010 10:45 PM)Green Menace Wrote:  Nice, but it's not an "on-campus" stadium and it does not belong to UTSA. Tell me again, when does UTSA hope to play it's first football game?

Dude, I was bowing to homeboy's rants. He has some obsession with UNT, but everything he says is true. And its funny to see you guys deny it.

The stadium is my signature, and please don't start comparing programs.

Exactly. There is nothing to compare.

Whenever I glance at this thread title I think I'm about to learn which schools are filled with certified lunatics and crazies. . .

(06-07-2010 10:05 PM)Raider_ATO Wrote:  Whenever I glance at this thread title I think I'm about to learn which schools are filled with certified lunatics and crazies. . .

Which aren't? That's a MUCH smaller list!

The bill also does not specify that fee can only go to the bonds, it can be used for operating expenses. The fee will go up every year or every other year to cover the cost of being competitive. This is a dedicated athletics fee that can be increased if the department needs that as long as the BOR approves the increase. No student vote is needed and no legislative approval is needed. This is just the start of new UNT and will be the money that changes our future. Buying out a coach's contract will be a lot easier now than it was last year.
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The bill may not specify that the fee can go only to bonds, but the loan agreement for the bonds will almost surely specify that the fee is committed. Probably the fee will be deposited into a sinking fund and the only authorized withdrawals from that fund will be for debt service, except there might be something for facilities maintenance. I haven't been in practice for 15 years so things may have changed, but the fees are the only security for the bond holders and the agreement is almost certain to say the fees can used for the bonds only.

RV said there will be two series of bonds, one secured by the student fees and the other secured by general revenue. The proceeds from sales of suites and club seats could be similarly restricted.

Sorry, but it is likely that not a dime of the student fees will be available for operating purposes, except perhaps facilities maintenance.

(06-08-2010 04:12 PM)untgeorge Wrote:  The bill also does not specify that fee can only go to the bonds, it can be used for operating expenses. The fee will go up every year or every other year to cover the cost of being competitive. This is a dedicated athletics fee that can be increased if the department needs that as long as the BOR approves the increase. No student vote is needed and no legislative approval is needed. This is just the start of new UNT and will be the money that changes our future. Buying out a coach's contract will be a lot easier now than it was last year.

Dallas Green post from gomeangreen.com

DallasGreen, on 08 June 2010 - 09:55 PM, said:

First of all the bonds are out. I bought some last week. They are sold in $5K increments and are selling at a premium, $103.83 as I recall with a 5% coupon rate, 4.8% YTM. They are either 25 or 30 year bonds but are callable within three years. To someone in the 30% incremental tax bracket this is the equivalent of 7.1% interest on a taxable issue. The very fact that they are callable shows belief in the project. If they are not called and go to maturity the student fee stays in effect for a minimum of 20 years. The act reads that the fee stays in effect as long as there is debt. You can bet that on or before the stadium is paid off there will be new bond issues for baseball and track stadiums. In the meantime the BOR can annually increase the fee by 1% per year. This provides money to pay competitive coaches salaries and other operating costs. Naming rights will have nothing to do with loyalty or alumni. It's strictly a business deal. We are the ONLY public university in the DFW metroplex supporting D-1 athletics. This is one of the fastest growing regions in the country and one of the least affected by the economic downturn. I find it interesting that Winnstar was previously mentioned. It is almost a forgone conclusion that Texas will not keep watching all this casino revenue continue to flow to OK, LA, etc. Talk about visability think about a casino between the stadium and the speedway on 35W. It could be closer than you think. The tribe that bought Lone Star Park in Grand Prarie did it because they know the increased potential for an on site casino with the horse track. All we can do now is as KRAM says and support the program, but the upside is phenominal. I have said for the last twenty years no matter how many backward boneheaded moves that Denton makes location will always bail out it and UNT. That has never been more true than today!!

sorry to keep posting the same thought. It seemed to me my other posts did not make it.

So this drunk stumbles along a baptismal service on Sunday afternoon down by the river.
He proceeds to walk into the water and stand next to the preacher. The minister notices the old drunk and says,


"Mister, are you ready to find Jesus?"


The drunk looks back and says,
"Yes, preacher, I sure am."


The minister dunks the fellow under the water and pulls him right backup.

"Have you found Jesus?"
the preacher asks.

"Nooo, I didn't!" said the drunk.
The preacher then dunks him under for quite a bit longer, brings him up, and says,

"Now, brother, have you found Jesus?"
"Noooo, I have not, reverend."

The preacher, in disgust, holds the man under for at least 30 seconds this time, brings him out of the water, and says in a harsh tone,

"My God, man, have you found Jesus yet?"
The old drunk wipes his eyes and says to the preacher,

"Are you sure this is where he fell in?"