From Jeff Goodman's twitter;

Sources told FOXSports.com that the Sun Belt Freshman of the Year, Arkansas State guard Brandon Reed, intends to transfer.

(05-24-2010 11:52 AM)mjs Wrote:  From Jeff Goodman's twitter;

Sources told FOXSports.com that the Sun Belt Freshman of the Year, Arkansas State guard Brandon Reed, intends to transfer.

Here's the whole post. Brandon Reed was the leading scorer for ASU last season and was the top scoring freshman in ASU history:

Monday, May 24, 2010, 09:53 AM EST [General]

The Sun Belt’s Freshman of the Year is transferring.

Brandon Reed, a 6-foot-3, 180-pound combo guard (he’s more of a two-guard) who averaged 15.1 points per game as a freshman for John Brady at Arkansas State, has asked for his release – according to multiple sources.

Look for Reed, an Atlanta native who also averaged 3.4 rebounds and 2.5 assists per game, to go to a higher level.

Reed led Whitfield Academy to a state title as a senior.

yes he has asked for permission to look at other schools

Brady released a statement that said he felt disappointed hurt and upset about the decision and has not granted a release as of yet

Id consider it likely that we dont release him at all since he waited till June to tell us.... Which will prevent him from recieving scholarship money for a full season

(05-24-2010 01:49 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  yes he has asked for permission to look at other schools

Brady released a statement that said he felt disappointed hurt and upset about the decision and has not granted a release as of yet

Id consider it likely that we dont release him at all since he waited till June to tell us.... Which will prevent him from recieving scholarship money for a full season

A good reason why signing a high profile freshman out of high school isn't always such a great idea for a mid major. I remember when Western gave Patrick Sparks a chance because Kentucky didn't want him out of high school, yet after two seasons of starring for Western, he then transfers to Kentucky That's tough.

On the other hand, a kid signs with a school, and they find someone better and release him after one or two years, so I guess it works both ways. But I hate to see a good player leave our league after having a great freshman season. We need all the good players we can get in our league. Oh to move to the Missouri Valley. Maybe in my next life.

(05-24-2010 03:35 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 01:49 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  yes he has asked for permission to look at other schools

Brady released a statement that said he felt disappointed hurt and upset about the decision and has not granted a release as of yet

Id consider it likely that we dont release him at all since he waited till June to tell us.... Which will prevent him from recieving scholarship money for a full season

A good reason why signing a high profile freshman out of high school isn't always such a great idea for a mid major. I remember when Western gave Patrick Sparks a chance because Kentucky didn't want him out of high school, yet after two seasons of starring for Western, he then transfers to Kentucky That's tough.

On the other hand, a kid signs with a school, and they find someone better and release him after one or two years, so I guess it works both ways. But I hate to see a good player leave our league after having a great freshman season. We need all the good players we can get in our league. Oh to move to the Missouri Valley. Maybe in my next life.

JONESBORO (5/24/10) – Arkansas State head men’s basketball coach John Brady has issued the following statement regarding Red Wolves’ guard Brandon Reed and his future with the basketball program.

“Brandon Reed, through his father, has asked for permission to pursue other opportunities as it relates to his basketball future. We have not as an institution given him a release at this time. I have talked with Brandon and his parents at length over the last week. Arkansas State gave him an opportunity to play at a high level and put him in a system that allowed him to showcase his talent and prove himself as a player in his first year of Division I basketball. We gave him a scholarship when other schools that saw him did not. It is a situation that really disappoints me, upsets me, is not right and does not sit well with me. But let me be clear, I have and always will want players at Arkansas State that want to be here, want to wear the scarlet and black and be totally committed without reservation to win the Sun Belt Conference and go to the NCAA?Tournament. We have a wonderful school, great fans and have created an opportunity for us to accomplish our goals. This situation does not detour, nor does it stop, the desire or enthusiasm I?have for this program and this community. We will continue to recruit good players that appreciate and are committed to this university.”

(05-24-2010 03:57 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 03:35 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 01:49 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  yes he has asked for permission to look at other schools

Brady released a statement that said he felt disappointed hurt and upset about the decision and has not granted a release as of yet

Id consider it likely that we dont release him at all since he waited till June to tell us.... Which will prevent him from recieving scholarship money for a full season

A good reason why signing a high profile freshman out of high school isn't always such a great idea for a mid major. I remember when Western gave Patrick Sparks a chance because Kentucky didn't want him out of high school, yet after two seasons of starring for Western, he then transfers to Kentucky That's tough.

On the other hand, a kid signs with a school, and they find someone better and release him after one or two years, so I guess it works both ways. But I hate to see a good player leave our league after having a great freshman season. We need all the good players we can get in our league. Oh to move to the Missouri Valley. Maybe in my next life.

JONESBORO (5/24/10) – Arkansas State head men’s basketball coach John Brady has issued the following statement regarding Red Wolves’ guard Brandon Reed and his future with the basketball program.

“Brandon Reed, through his father, has asked for permission to pursue other opportunities as it relates to his basketball future. We have not as an institution given him a release at this time. I have talked with Brandon and his parents at length over the last week. Arkansas State gave him an opportunity to play at a high level and put him in a system that allowed him to showcase his talent and prove himself as a player in his first year of Division I basketball. We gave him a scholarship when other schools that saw him did not. It is a situation that really disappoints me, upsets me, is not right and does not sit well with me. But let me be clear, I have and always will want players at Arkansas State that want to be here, want to wear the scarlet and black and be totally committed without reservation to win the Sun Belt Conference and go to the NCAA?Tournament. We have a wonderful school, great fans and have created an opportunity for us to accomplish our goals. This situation does not detour, nor does it stop, the desire or enthusiasm I?have for this program and this community. We will continue to recruit good players that appreciate and are committed to this university.”

It is pretty obvious that ASU has no intention of giving this kid a release, and I don't blame them. So the ball is in the kid's court. Does he want to leave bad enough to pay his own way for a year? Looks like mom and dad will have to step up to the plate if he does. But now does he have much of a choice, considering that he may now not be considered a "team" player at ASU, and given the timing of his decision.

Sounds to me the opposite, that Brady will release him since he wants players "that want to be here". I've got to give Brady high marks for coming out and making a statement (unlike our department), and a strong one at that. Hats off to him!

(05-24-2010 05:58 PM)eh9198 Wrote:  Sounds to me the opposite, that Brady will release him since he wants players "that want to be here". I've got to give Brady high marks for coming out and making a statement (unlike our department), and a strong one at that. Hats off to him!

Unless I misunderstand how this works, and that is very possible, if the kid leaves and enrolls in another school, that frees up a scholarship for ASU whether he has been released or not. It only means that the kid can't go on scholarship at the new school for a year, in addition to sitting out a year. I think.

(05-24-2010 06:08 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 05:58 PM)eh9198 Wrote:  Sounds to me the opposite, that Brady will release him since he wants players "that want to be here". I've got to give Brady high marks for coming out and making a statement (unlike our department), and a strong one at that. Hats off to him!

Unless I misunderstand how this works, and that is very possible, if the kid leaves and enrolls in another school, that frees up a scholarship for ASU whether he has been released or not. It only means that the kid can't go on scholarship at the new school for a year, in addition to sitting out a year. I think.

So you think Brady won't release him? I'm not necessarily saying he should, but in the end I think most coaches do because they don't want to damage their reputation when recruiting other players. I tend to agree with eh that at the end of the statement Brady seemed to suggest he would release him because he only wants players who want to be Red Wolves. I think he will make him sweat a little before he gives him a release, but its highly doubtful the kid will come back regardless.

(05-24-2010 07:33 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 06:08 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 05:58 PM)eh9198 Wrote:  Sounds to me the opposite, that Brady will release him since he wants players "that want to be here". I've got to give Brady high marks for coming out and making a statement (unlike our department), and a strong one at that. Hats off to him!

Unless I misunderstand how this works, and that is very possible, if the kid leaves and enrolls in another school, that frees up a scholarship for ASU whether he has been released or not. It only means that the kid can't go on scholarship at the new school for a year, in addition to sitting out a year. I think.

So you think Brady won't release him? I'm not necessarily saying he should, but in the end I think most coaches do because they don't want to damage their reputation when recruiting other players. I tend to agree with eh that at the end of the statement Brady seemed to suggest he would release him because he only wants players who want to be Red Wolves. I think he will make him sweat a little before he gives him a release, but its highly doubtful the kid will come back regardless.

Obviously, few (if any) on this board shed any tears over ASU losing a star player. But it really does suck. ASU gives him a scholarship when other schools don't and gives him the opportunity to excell on the court. What thanks do they get?- he says adios. Playing and doing well in the Sun Belt can get you to the NBA (if that's his goal) and we have plenty of examples to prove that. Having Brady as a coach likely doesn't hurt either. On the other hand, being from Atlanta, he may simply have not liked life in Jonesboro, AR. I guess if someone is truly unhappy they should have the right to make a change.

(05-24-2010 06:08 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 05:58 PM)eh9198 Wrote:  Sounds to me the opposite, that Brady will release him since he wants players "that want to be here". I've got to give Brady high marks for coming out and making a statement (unlike our department), and a strong one at that. Hats off to him!

Unless I misunderstand how this works, and that is very possible, if the kid leaves and enrolls in another school, that frees up a scholarship for ASU whether he has been released or not. It only means that the kid can't go on scholarship at the new school for a year, in addition to sitting out a year. I think.

I believe you are right. We have lost at least 1 and maybe two scholies because of the APR. Yet to be decided. Since it was so late in the season, since he didn't have the nerve to tell Brady himself there is no way I would release him.

(05-24-2010 08:08 PM)bigdhl Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 06:08 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 05:58 PM)eh9198 Wrote:  Sounds to me the opposite, that Brady will release him since he wants players "that want to be here". I've got to give Brady high marks for coming out and making a statement (unlike our department), and a strong one at that. Hats off to him!

Unless I misunderstand how this works, and that is very possible, if the kid leaves and enrolls in another school, that frees up a scholarship for ASU whether he has been released or not. It only means that the kid can't go on scholarship at the new school for a year, in addition to sitting out a year. I think.

I believe you are right. We have lost at least 1 and maybe two scholies because of the APR. Yet to be decided. Since it was so late in the season, since he didn't have the nerve to tell Brady himself there is no way I would release him.

If a player is not released does he have to sit for 2 years? Or does he sit for just one, but can't be on scholarship that year?

(05-24-2010 08:17 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 08:08 PM)bigdhl Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 06:08 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 05:58 PM)eh9198 Wrote:  Sounds to me the opposite, that Brady will release him since he wants players "that want to be here". I've got to give Brady high marks for coming out and making a statement (unlike our department), and a strong one at that. Hats off to him!

Unless I misunderstand how this works, and that is very possible, if the kid leaves and enrolls in another school, that frees up a scholarship for ASU whether he has been released or not. It only means that the kid can't go on scholarship at the new school for a year, in addition to sitting out a year. I think.

I believe you are right. We have lost at least 1 and maybe two scholies because of the APR. Yet to be decided. Since it was so late in the season, since he didn't have the nerve to tell Brady himself there is no way I would release him.

If a player is not released does he have to sit for 2 years? Or does he sit for just one, but can't be on scholarship that year?

Just sits one one but he has to pay his own way.

(05-24-2010 08:17 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 08:08 PM)bigdhl Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 06:08 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 05:58 PM)eh9198 Wrote:  Sounds to me the opposite, that Brady will release him since he wants players "that want to be here". I've got to give Brady high marks for coming out and making a statement (unlike our department), and a strong one at that. Hats off to him!

Unless I misunderstand how this works, and that is very possible, if the kid leaves and enrolls in another school, that frees up a scholarship for ASU whether he has been released or not. It only means that the kid can't go on scholarship at the new school for a year, in addition to sitting out a year. I think.

I believe you are right. We have lost at least 1 and maybe two scholies because of the APR. Yet to be decided. Since it was so late in the season, since he didn't have the nerve to tell Brady himself there is no way I would release him.

If a player is not released does he have to sit for 2 years? Or does he sit for just one, but can't be on scholarship that year?

I think you are correct. Doesn't have to sit out for 2 years, but can't get financial aid for one in addition to having to sit out that year. Like you, I rarely (maybe never) shed a tear for ASU, but I'm with them and Coach Brady on this one. ASU gives the kid a chance when the programs where he might want to go didn't. So after he has a great freshman year, he wants a redo to leave ASU behind and trade up to one of the schools that didn't offer him out of High School. Well screw you kid and the horse you came in on.

(05-24-2010 08:35 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 08:17 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 08:08 PM)bigdhl Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 06:08 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 05:58 PM)eh9198 Wrote:  Sounds to me the opposite, that Brady will release him since he wants players "that want to be here". I've got to give Brady high marks for coming out and making a statement (unlike our department), and a strong one at that. Hats off to him!

Unless I misunderstand how this works, and that is very possible, if the kid leaves and enrolls in another school, that frees up a scholarship for ASU whether he has been released or not. It only means that the kid can't go on scholarship at the new school for a year, in addition to sitting out a year. I think.

I believe you are right. We have lost at least 1 and maybe two scholies because of the APR. Yet to be decided. Since it was so late in the season, since he didn't have the nerve to tell Brady himself there is no way I would release him.

If a player is not released does he have to sit for 2 years? Or does he sit for just one, but can't be on scholarship that year?

I think you are correct. Doesn't have to sit out for 2 years, but can't get financial aid for one in addition to having to sit out that year. Like you, I rarely (maybe never) shed a tear for ASU, but I'm with them and Coach Brady on this one. ASU gives the kid a chance when the programs where he might want to go didn't. So after he has a great freshman year, he wants a redo to leave ASU behind and trade up to one of the schools that didn't offer him out of High School. Well screw you kid and the horse you came in on.

I'm also with Brady on this. I felt the same way when Patrick Sparks gave Western Kentucky the shaft for Kentucky.

If coaches can regularly dump players (like our coach does), then players can also dump schools, IMO. My problem in this situation, though is the timing, after the recruiting period has ended. If he wanted to transfer, fine, but there is a time and a place. This was neither.

(05-24-2010 09:41 PM)eh9198 Wrote:  If coaches can regularly dump players (like our coach does), then players can also dump schools, IMO. My problem in this situation, though is the timing, after the recruiting period has ended. If he wanted to transfer, fine, but there is a time and a place. This was neither.

You make a reasonable point. Coaches seem to have little trouble running off players who don't play well enough and moving them to a lower level school. Then they get bent out of shape when a player who plays better than expected wants to move to a higher level school. I really don't like what Reed is doing. But he will be penalized for his actions- at best, his punishment will be having to sit out for an entire season. He may also be looking at a heftly financial penalty if he is not released. Coaches can run off kids with impunity.

im not sure if Brady will release him. But I imagine if he does get a release it will have these stipulations

No transfer to another SUn Belt school (Seriously if he pops up at another SBC school im crying foul)

No Transfer to Wichita State

No Transfer to Arkansas... (Because Lord knows John Pelphrey needs another Sun Belt Caliber recruit)

(05-24-2010 11:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  im not sure if Brady will release him. But I imagine if he does get a release it will have these stipulations

No transfer to another SUn Belt school (Seriously if he pops up at another SBC school im crying foul)

No Transfer to Wichita State

No Transfer to Arkansas... (Because Lord knows John Pelphrey needs another Sun Belt Caliber recruit)

There are good reasons for players leaving. Little or no playing time. Maybe he isn't happy in the city or school. Maybe his girlfriend is back home and he wants to be with her. But to leave for a bigger basketball program? Nope. That's crap. A school gives a kid a chance, he does well, and wants to leave after one year for greener pastures? The Sun Belt is a D1 conference. It isn't an audition for BCS schools. I don't know what Brady will do, but whatever he does, I would back him. If I were the kid, I'd get the Hell out of Jonesboro pronto. It might not be a safe place for him at this point in time.

(05-24-2010 11:52 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  

(05-24-2010 11:44 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  im not sure if Brady will release him. But I imagine if he does get a release it will have these stipulations

No transfer to another SUn Belt school (Seriously if he pops up at another SBC school im crying foul)

No Transfer to Wichita State

No Transfer to Arkansas... (Because Lord knows John Pelphrey needs another Sun Belt Caliber recruit)

There are good reasons for players leaving. Little or no playing time. Maybe he isn't happy in the city or school. Maybe his girlfriend is back home and he wants to be with her. But to leave for a bigger basketball program? Nope. That's crap. A school gives a kid a chance, he does well, and wants to leave after one year for greener pastures? The Sun Belt is a D1 conference. It isn't an audition for BCS schools. I don't know what Brady will do, but whatever he does, I would back him. If I were the kid, I'd get the Hell out of Jonesboro pronto. It might not be a safe place for him at this point in time.

he left Jonesbioro at the beginning of the month. But he forgot to delete his facebook page which isnt very pretty right now. its turning into a battle ground between friends of Brandon and ASU fans who have gotten on there to get some parting shots. at least 2 ASU players have already pronounced him as a traitor from what I understand

and it will get worse before it gets better, the Jonesboro Sun reported today that sources indicate that Brandon has full intentions of transferring to a BCS school and 5 ACC and 2 SEC schools are showing interest in him right now.

Everything I have from people close to Brady indicates that Brady fully believes we were played for a major D1 offer,