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It was great, and I can't wait see again.

It's funny how there were so many cameos from prior movies, and yet I left saying they should have brought this or that character in for such and such scene.
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Endgame was entertaining.

However, my wife asked to many questions about the timeline stuff. If you dwell on it the movie creates more questions.

However, disappointing how Cpt. Marvel was so low key...like she hardly existed. Didn’t like the “look of Thor. It was funny but the wife was disappointed how they turned him out.
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Major spoilers ahead

As many of you know, I'm a big Marvel fan. And I've introduced my wife to all the movies, to the point where she enjoys seeing them in theaters. Despite all that, we did not like Endgame at all. I swear we must be the only two people in the world who didn't like it. What issues did we have? Where do i even begin?
-Any tension the movie could have had was undercut right at the beginning when Tony and Nebula were saved after about 5 minutes. Then they found and killed a weakened Thanos less than 10 minutes later.
-Not to mention the fans must all have been incredibly stupid. Every single potential sad moment was telegraphed and totally obvious. They all gasped when Hawkeye's family was snapped away. Did anyone not see that coming?
-Getting back to the rest of the movie: it focused so heavily on the original avengers, but who really likes most of them? Does anyone really care about Hawkeye, or Hulk, or Black Widow? The Hulk/Banner combination was eye rollingly stupid.
-And Thor. where do I even begin with Thor? The fat Thor jokes went on way too long, and his actions in the Asgard scenes were beyond annoying. The fate of trillions was in his hands and is acting like a child.
-The scene on Vormir might have been worse. It MIGHT have been tense if I hadn't already seen an incredibly gut wrenching scene in the same spot during Infinity War. Add to the fact that I don't care about Black Widow, or Hawkeye. And their plan was idiotic. If hawkeye had committed suicide, would Black Widow have gotten the stone? Aren't you supposed to sacrifice the thing you love the most? Does Hawkeye love himself more than anyone? And what if they had both died?!!

We had so many more issues, too numerous to list here. I'm not sure what tone they were trying to hit. Was it serious, was it comical? The tone seemed like it was all over the place.

Sorry, I have no idea how to make the type invisible. Hope the white suffices.
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(04-30-2019 01:23 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  Major spoilers ahead

As many of you know, I'm a big Marvel fan. And I've introduced my wife to all the movies, to the point where she enjoys seeing them in theaters. Despite all that, we did not like Endgame at all. I swear we must be the only two people in the world who didn't like it. What issues did we have? Where do i even begin?
-Any tension the movie could have had was undercut right at the beginning when Tony and Nebula were saved after about 5 minutes. Then they found and killed a weakened Thanos less than 10 minutes later.
-Not to mention the fans must all have been incredibly stupid. Every single potential sad moment was telegraphed and totally obvious. They all gasped when Hawkeye's family was snapped away. Did anyone not see that coming?
-Getting back to the rest of the movie: it focused so heavily on the original avengers, but who really likes most of them? Does anyone really care about Hawkeye, or Hulk, or Black Widow? The Hulk/Banner combination was eye rollingly stupid.
-And Thor. where do I even begin with Thor? The fat Thor jokes went on way too long, and his actions in the Asgard scenes were beyond annoying. The fate of trillions was in his hands and is acting like a child.
-The scene on Vormir might have been worse. It MIGHT have been tense if I hadn't already seen an incredibly gut wrenching scene in the same spot during Infinity War. Add to the fact that I don't care about Black Widow, or Hawkeye. And their plan was idiotic. If hawkeye had committed suicide, would Black Widow have gotten the stone? Aren't you supposed to sacrifice the thing you love the most? Does Hawkeye love himself more than anyone? And what if they had both died?!!

We had so many more issues, too numerous to list here. I'm not sure what tone they were trying to hit. Was it serious, was it comical? The tone seemed like it was all over the place.

Sorry, I have no idea how to make the type invisible. Hope the white suffices.

That I can get.. I still question the old Thanos losing in the future, wouldn't that erase the snap?
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RE: The movie thread
(04-30-2019 02:25 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 01:23 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  Major spoilers ahead

As many of you know, I'm a big Marvel fan. And I've introduced my wife to all the movies, to the point where she enjoys seeing them in theaters. Despite all that, we did not like Endgame at all. I swear we must be the only two people in the world who didn't like it. What issues did we have? Where do i even begin?
-Any tension the movie could have had was undercut right at the beginning when Tony and Nebula were saved after about 5 minutes. Then they found and killed a weakened Thanos less than 10 minutes later.
-Not to mention the fans must all have been incredibly stupid. Every single potential sad moment was telegraphed and totally obvious. They all gasped when Hawkeye's family was snapped away. Did anyone not see that coming?
-Getting back to the rest of the movie: it focused so heavily on the original avengers, but who really likes most of them? Does anyone really care about Hawkeye, or Hulk, or Black Widow? The Hulk/Banner combination was eye rollingly stupid.
-And Thor. where do I even begin with Thor? The fat Thor jokes went on way too long, and his actions in the Asgard scenes were beyond annoying. The fate of trillions was in his hands and is acting like a child.
-The scene on Vormir might have been worse. It MIGHT have been tense if I hadn't already seen an incredibly gut wrenching scene in the same spot during Infinity War. Add to the fact that I don't care about Black Widow, or Hawkeye. And their plan was idiotic. If hawkeye had committed suicide, would Black Widow have gotten the stone? Aren't you supposed to sacrifice the thing you love the most? Does Hawkeye love himself more than anyone? And what if they had both died?!!

We had so many more issues, too numerous to list here. I'm not sure what tone they were trying to hit. Was it serious, was it comical? The tone seemed like it was all over the place.

Sorry, I have no idea how to make the type invisible. Hope the white suffices.

That I can get.. I still question the old Thanos losing in the future, wouldn't that erase the snap?

Another thought was Nat dying shouldn’t have work. To get the soul stone you have to lose the thing you love most. So did Hawkeye love Nat more than his family? It should have been the other way around because Nat loved Hawkeye the most because he saved her.
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(04-30-2019 07:54 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 02:25 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 01:23 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  Major spoilers ahead

As many of you know, I'm a big Marvel fan. And I've introduced my wife to all the movies, to the point where she enjoys seeing them in theaters. Despite all that, we did not like Endgame at all. I swear we must be the only two people in the world who didn't like it. What issues did we have? Where do i even begin?
-Any tension the movie could have had was undercut right at the beginning when Tony and Nebula were saved after about 5 minutes. Then they found and killed a weakened Thanos less than 10 minutes later.
-Not to mention the fans must all have been incredibly stupid. Every single potential sad moment was telegraphed and totally obvious. They all gasped when Hawkeye's family was snapped away. Did anyone not see that coming?
-Getting back to the rest of the movie: it focused so heavily on the original avengers, but who really likes most of them? Does anyone really care about Hawkeye, or Hulk, or Black Widow? The Hulk/Banner combination was eye rollingly stupid.
-And Thor. where do I even begin with Thor? The fat Thor jokes went on way too long, and his actions in the Asgard scenes were beyond annoying. The fate of trillions was in his hands and is acting like a child.
-The scene on Vormir might have been worse. It MIGHT have been tense if I hadn't already seen an incredibly gut wrenching scene in the same spot during Infinity War. Add to the fact that I don't care about Black Widow, or Hawkeye. And their plan was idiotic. If hawkeye had committed suicide, would Black Widow have gotten the stone? Aren't you supposed to sacrifice the thing you love the most? Does Hawkeye love himself more than anyone? And what if they had both died?!!

We had so many more issues, too numerous to list here. I'm not sure what tone they were trying to hit. Was it serious, was it comical? The tone seemed like it was all over the place.

Sorry, I have no idea how to make the type invisible. Hope the white suffices.

That I can get.. I still question the old Thanos losing in the future, wouldn't that erase the snap?

Another thought was Nat dying shouldn’t have work. To get the soul stone you have to lose the thing you love most. So did Hawkeye love Nat more than his family? It should have been the other way around because Nat loved Hawkeye the most because he saved her.

Yup, a point I didn't have time to add
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http://www.darkhorizons.com/django-uncha...ctors-cut/

Interesting.

So, first, I had seen Hateful Eight as a 4 part episode on NF but was like wait....the movie was long to begin with I hadn't heard of a DC for it. I haven't had time to watch the 4 episodes of that DC of the movie but I just might. I wonder if really changes somethings like it is asserted in the article.

Second, I did like Django a lot. Not sure what else could be added to fill out any holes. I mean, I would probably like some more background on the bounty hunter but.... Maybe a prior period where Django and his girl were together before the breakup....

Third, I think Kill Bill would be a prime candidate for this. However, I think KB 1 was a complete movie IMO. KB 2 had its moments but it was no KB 1. KB 1 + 2 woven together into one long movie would be a good idea as I think the concept would come out better as a overall viewing and not two separate entities.
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RE: The movie thread
(04-30-2019 10:00 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 07:54 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 02:25 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 01:23 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  Major spoilers ahead

As many of you know, I'm a big Marvel fan. And I've introduced my wife to all the movies, to the point where she enjoys seeing them in theaters. Despite all that, we did not like Endgame at all. I swear we must be the only two people in the world who didn't like it. What issues did we have? Where do i even begin?
-Any tension the movie could have had was undercut right at the beginning when Tony and Nebula were saved after about 5 minutes. Then they found and killed a weakened Thanos less than 10 minutes later.
-Not to mention the fans must all have been incredibly stupid. Every single potential sad moment was telegraphed and totally obvious. They all gasped when Hawkeye's family was snapped away. Did anyone not see that coming?
-Getting back to the rest of the movie: it focused so heavily on the original avengers, but who really likes most of them? Does anyone really care about Hawkeye, or Hulk, or Black Widow? The Hulk/Banner combination was eye rollingly stupid.
-And Thor. where do I even begin with Thor? The fat Thor jokes went on way too long, and his actions in the Asgard scenes were beyond annoying. The fate of trillions was in his hands and is acting like a child.
-The scene on Vormir might have been worse. It MIGHT have been tense if I hadn't already seen an incredibly gut wrenching scene in the same spot during Infinity War. Add to the fact that I don't care about Black Widow, or Hawkeye. And their plan was idiotic. If hawkeye had committed suicide, would Black Widow have gotten the stone? Aren't you supposed to sacrifice the thing you love the most? Does Hawkeye love himself more than anyone? And what if they had both died?!!

We had so many more issues, too numerous to list here. I'm not sure what tone they were trying to hit. Was it serious, was it comical? The tone seemed like it was all over the place.

Sorry, I have no idea how to make the type invisible. Hope the white suffices.

That I can get.. I still question the old Thanos losing in the future, wouldn't that erase the snap?

Another thought was Nat dying shouldn’t have work. To get the soul stone you have to lose the thing you love most. So did Hawkeye love Nat more than his family? It should have been the other way around because Nat loved Hawkeye the most because he saved her.

Yup, a point I didn't have time to add

You introduce time travel into any scenario for solutions you always end up getting more problems.

I know they kind of set up a "deep relationship" between Hawkeye and Black Widow before she kind of took a liking to Banner/Hulk so I can't unequivocally say the Soul Stone wouldn't have come forward in that scenario but I do aree the way they played that out did feel kind of cheap in some regards. That said, what did Red Skull do to a) be the guy who gives out such info and b) how did he find out, and c) why was he out there to begin with.

Choppin off Thanos' head seemed like the logical revenge move IMO. That said, the entire team had a lot to deal with with half the team evaporated.

If Celestials were some of the only ones able to hold AN Infinity Stone how did Thanos with some gauntlet hold 6? How could Iron Man devise his own gauntlet to hold them himself?

If I want to get picky, how do you arbitrarily decide who dies and who doesn't in those "snaps"?

What was so special about Cap that he couldn't lift the hammer in Ultron yet could this time around?

IMO, there are some issues around this Time Stone thing involving Dr. Strange and The Ancient One and I guess how holding the Time Stone goes.

And again, as far as time goes, why did they need a 5 year gap to pursue things again?

How was Black Panther's main female military partner basically there for 2m early in the movie and then never seen till the mass attack at the end? If she was indeed as key as the PR machine lead you to believe.
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(04-30-2019 07:54 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 02:25 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 01:23 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  Major spoilers ahead

As many of you know, I'm a big Marvel fan. And I've introduced my wife to all the movies, to the point where she enjoys seeing them in theaters. Despite all that, we did not like Endgame at all. I swear we must be the only two people in the world who didn't like it. What issues did we have? Where do i even begin?
-Any tension the movie could have had was undercut right at the beginning when Tony and Nebula were saved after about 5 minutes. Then they found and killed a weakened Thanos less than 10 minutes later.
-Not to mention the fans must all have been incredibly stupid. Every single potential sad moment was telegraphed and totally obvious. They all gasped when Hawkeye's family was snapped away. Did anyone not see that coming?
-Getting back to the rest of the movie: it focused so heavily on the original avengers, but who really likes most of them? Does anyone really care about Hawkeye, or Hulk, or Black Widow? The Hulk/Banner combination was eye rollingly stupid.
-And Thor. where do I even begin with Thor? The fat Thor jokes went on way too long, and his actions in the Asgard scenes were beyond annoying. The fate of trillions was in his hands and is acting like a child.
-The scene on Vormir might have been worse. It MIGHT have been tense if I hadn't already seen an incredibly gut wrenching scene in the same spot during Infinity War. Add to the fact that I don't care about Black Widow, or Hawkeye. And their plan was idiotic. If hawkeye had committed suicide, would Black Widow have gotten the stone? Aren't you supposed to sacrifice the thing you love the most? Does Hawkeye love himself more than anyone? And what if they had both died?!!

We had so many more issues, too numerous to list here. I'm not sure what tone they were trying to hit. Was it serious, was it comical? The tone seemed like it was all over the place.

Sorry, I have no idea how to make the type invisible. Hope the white suffices.

That I can get.. I still question the old Thanos losing in the future, wouldn't that erase the snap?

Another thought was Nat dying shouldn’t have work. To get the soul stone you have to lose the thing you love most. So did Hawkeye love Nat more than his family? It should have been the other way around because Nat loved Hawkeye the most because he saved her.
I think at that point his family was gone and she was the thing he loved the most.
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(05-01-2019 12:10 AM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  What was so special about Cap that he couldn't lift the hammer in Ultron yet could this time around?

I'd like to address this one.

In AoU, when Cap tries to lift the hammer, it moves a little as if he is about to lift it, but then doesn't. At this point, Thor gives a nervous smile at Cap, like "oh crap, he's going to lift it and prove me wrong." I do not believe anyone in the room other than Thor noticed the hammer's movement.

This has been debated on message boards for years - long before Endgame. The theories I've read include:

- Cap was worthy, but he didn't think he was, and the hammer requires the person to believe it
- Cap realized he was about to lift it but stopped as he didn't want to upstage Thor
- Cap was trying too hard, and rather than putting in so much muscle, he could have effortlessly lifted it if he was more casual about it

Joss Weadon addressed this once. He was asked why couldn't Cap lift the hammer and his response was (with a smirk) something to the effect of "Couldn't he?"

Personally, I like the theory of Cap not wanting to upstage his teammate. It's in line with his character, and why he, rather than Stark or Thor, is the leader of the Avengers.
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(05-02-2019 07:25 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  
(05-01-2019 12:10 AM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  What was so special about Cap that he couldn't lift the hammer in Ultron yet could this time around?

I'd like to address this one.

In AoU, when Cap tries to lift the hammer, it moves a little as if he is about to lift it, but then doesn't. At this point, Thor gives a nervous smile at Cap, like "oh crap, he's going to lift it and prove me wrong." I do not believe anyone in the room other than Thor noticed the hammer's movement.

This has been debated on message boards for years - long before Endgame. The theories I've read include:

- Cap was worthy, but he didn't think he was, and the hammer requires the person to believe it
- Cap realized he was about to lift it but stopped as he didn't want to upstage Thor
- Cap was trying too hard, and rather than putting in so much muscle, he could have effortlessly lifted it if he was more casual about it

Joss Weadon addressed this once. He was asked why couldn't Cap lift the hammer and his response was (with a smirk) something to the effect of "Couldn't he?"

Personally, I like the theory of Cap not wanting to upstage his teammate. It's in line with his character, and why he, rather than Stark or Thor, is the leader of the Avengers.
I saw a theory that he couldn't do it because he knew of Bucky's involvement in the death of Tony's parents and the guilt weighed on him and hence he didn't feel worthy.. It was aired out and the weight was lifted.
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(05-02-2019 09:31 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 07:25 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  
(05-01-2019 12:10 AM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  What was so special about Cap that he couldn't lift the hammer in Ultron yet could this time around?

I'd like to address this one.

In AoU, when Cap tries to lift the hammer, it moves a little as if he is about to lift it, but then doesn't. At this point, Thor gives a nervous smile at Cap, like "oh crap, he's going to lift it and prove me wrong." I do not believe anyone in the room other than Thor noticed the hammer's movement.

This has been debated on message boards for years - long before Endgame. The theories I've read include:

- Cap was worthy, but he didn't think he was, and the hammer requires the person to believe it
- Cap realized he was about to lift it but stopped as he didn't want to upstage Thor
- Cap was trying too hard, and rather than putting in so much muscle, he could have effortlessly lifted it if he was more casual about it

Joss Weadon addressed this once. He was asked why couldn't Cap lift the hammer and his response was (with a smirk) something to the effect of "Couldn't he?"

Personally, I like the theory of Cap not wanting to upstage his teammate. It's in line with his character, and why he, rather than Stark or Thor, is the leader of the Avengers.
I saw a theory that he couldn't do it because he knew of Bucky's involvement in the death of Tony's parents and the guilt weighed on him and hence he didn't feel worthy.. It was aired out and the weight was lifted.

Yeah, I recalled Thor's gaze at Cap's attempt. I didn't think it moved at all.... but I think Thor thought Cap had all the intangibles his dad had in mind when he cursed the hammer so he felt if anyone had a shot, he did. On that note, how did ____ lift it? Surely her demeanor wouldn't work with the curse he put on it.
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(05-02-2019 10:18 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 09:31 AM)gdunn Wrote:  
(05-02-2019 07:25 AM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  
(05-01-2019 12:10 AM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  What was so special about Cap that he couldn't lift the hammer in Ultron yet could this time around?

I'd like to address this one.

In AoU, when Cap tries to lift the hammer, it moves a little as if he is about to lift it, but then doesn't. At this point, Thor gives a nervous smile at Cap, like "oh crap, he's going to lift it and prove me wrong." I do not believe anyone in the room other than Thor noticed the hammer's movement.

This has been debated on message boards for years - long before Endgame. The theories I've read include:

- Cap was worthy, but he didn't think he was, and the hammer requires the person to believe it
- Cap realized he was about to lift it but stopped as he didn't want to upstage Thor
- Cap was trying too hard, and rather than putting in so much muscle, he could have effortlessly lifted it if he was more casual about it

Joss Weadon addressed this once. He was asked why couldn't Cap lift the hammer and his response was (with a smirk) something to the effect of "Couldn't he?"

Personally, I like the theory of Cap not wanting to upstage his teammate. It's in line with his character, and why he, rather than Stark or Thor, is the leader of the Avengers.
I saw a theory that he couldn't do it because he knew of Bucky's involvement in the death of Tony's parents and the guilt weighed on him and hence he didn't feel worthy.. It was aired out and the weight was lifted.

Yeah, I recalled Thor's gaze at Cap's attempt. I didn't think it moved at all.... but I think Thor thought Cap had all the intangibles his dad had in mind when he cursed the hammer so he felt if anyone had a shot, he did. On that note, how did ____ lift it? Surely her demeanor wouldn't work with the curse he put on it.
I don't think she truly lift it, she stopped it in mid-air and destroyed it, or with Odin gone the curse/spell was lifted?

Maybe Noobmaster69 knows.
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Triple Frontier (Netflix)- Not a bad cast or movie... Seemed a little too easy plotwise until the last 45 minutes...
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(04-30-2019 01:23 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  Major spoilers ahead

As many of you know, I'm a big Marvel fan. And I've introduced my wife to all the movies, to the point where she enjoys seeing them in theaters. Despite all that, we did not like Endgame at all. I swear we must be the only two people in the world who didn't like it. What issues did we have? Where do i even begin?
-Any tension the movie could have had was undercut right at the beginning when Tony and Nebula were saved after about 5 minutes. Then they found and killed a weakened Thanos less than 10 minutes later.
-Not to mention the fans must all have been incredibly stupid. Every single potential sad moment was telegraphed and totally obvious. They all gasped when Hawkeye's family was snapped away. Did anyone not see that coming?
-Getting back to the rest of the movie: it focused so heavily on the original avengers, but who really likes most of them? Does anyone really care about Hawkeye, or Hulk, or Black Widow? The Hulk/Banner combination was eye rollingly stupid.
-And Thor. where do I even begin with Thor? The fat Thor jokes went on way too long, and his actions in the Asgard scenes were beyond annoying. The fate of trillions was in his hands and is acting like a child.
-The scene on Vormir might have been worse. It MIGHT have been tense if I hadn't already seen an incredibly gut wrenching scene in the same spot during Infinity War. Add to the fact that I don't care about Black Widow, or Hawkeye. And their plan was idiotic. If hawkeye had committed suicide, would Black Widow have gotten the stone? Aren't you supposed to sacrifice the thing you love the most? Does Hawkeye love himself more than anyone? And what if they had both died?!!

We had so many more issues, too numerous to list here. I'm not sure what tone they were trying to hit. Was it serious, was it comical? The tone seemed like it was all over the place.

Sorry, I have no idea how to make the type invisible. Hope the white suffices.


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I enjoyed the movie and felt like, for the most part, they resolved characters and storylines in a way that left me pretty satisfied. So I obviously wasn't as putt off by all the things you mention, but some of them do stand out and sort of pulled me out of the movie for a few moments. The Vormir/Soul Stone scene absolutely didn't make sense in the context of what Red Skull explained. It's about sacrifice of someone you love, not for someone.

And while I really enjoyed the moment where Banner/Hulk explains the rules of time travel, I'm confused. It's a great explanation because he understands some of the paradoxes of time travel. You can't travel back in time and change the future because that future already happened - it's now part of your past. But my confusion comes about because in Infinity War, didn't Thanos travel back in time and change the future? After Scarlet Witch destroys the mind stone, he simply turns back the clock a few seconds and takes it himself (bypassing all the fighting he was doing prior to that moment in the original timeline). Seems like they broke their own rules, yeah?
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(05-02-2019 10:18 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Yeah, I recalled Thor's gaze at Cap's attempt. I didn't think it moved at all....

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Here's my question and it's good.. How do you think the Red Skull reacted when Steve handed him back the Soul Stone?
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(05-07-2019 12:28 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Here's my question and it's good.. How do you think the Red Skull reacted when Steve handed him back the Soul Stone?

How the F did Cap return the stone at the exact moment it was taken? Did he hide out on the ship that Natasha and Clint took? Did he just hand the stone to Red Skull? That whole part about him returning the stones by himself and at the exact moment they were taken, leaves me with so many questions as to render it completely joyless.
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(05-06-2019 03:23 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 01:23 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  Major spoilers ahead

As many of you know, I'm a big Marvel fan. And I've introduced my wife to all the movies, to the point where she enjoys seeing them in theaters. Despite all that, we did not like Endgame at all. I swear we must be the only two people in the world who didn't like it. What issues did we have? Where do i even begin?
-Any tension the movie could have had was undercut right at the beginning when Tony and Nebula were saved after about 5 minutes. Then they found and killed a weakened Thanos less than 10 minutes later.
-Not to mention the fans must all have been incredibly stupid. Every single potential sad moment was telegraphed and totally obvious. They all gasped when Hawkeye's family was snapped away. Did anyone not see that coming?
-Getting back to the rest of the movie: it focused so heavily on the original avengers, but who really likes most of them? Does anyone really care about Hawkeye, or Hulk, or Black Widow? The Hulk/Banner combination was eye rollingly stupid.
-And Thor. where do I even begin with Thor? The fat Thor jokes went on way too long, and his actions in the Asgard scenes were beyond annoying. The fate of trillions was in his hands and is acting like a child.
-The scene on Vormir might have been worse. It MIGHT have been tense if I hadn't already seen an incredibly gut wrenching scene in the same spot during Infinity War. Add to the fact that I don't care about Black Widow, or Hawkeye. And their plan was idiotic. If hawkeye had committed suicide, would Black Widow have gotten the stone? Aren't you supposed to sacrifice the thing you love the most? Does Hawkeye love himself more than anyone? And what if they had both died?!!

We had so many more issues, too numerous to list here. I'm not sure what tone they were trying to hit. Was it serious, was it comical? The tone seemed like it was all over the place.

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And while I really enjoyed the moment where Banner/Hulk explains the rules of time travel, I'm confused. It's a great explanation because he understands some of the paradoxes of time travel. You can't travel back in time and change the future because that future already happened - it's now part of your past. But my confusion comes about because in Infinity War, didn't Thanos travel back in time and change the future? After Scarlet Witch destroys the mind stone, he simply turns back the clock a few seconds and takes it himself (bypassing all the fighting he was doing prior to that moment in the original timeline). Seems like they broke their own rules, yeah?

To be fair, the Time Stone can be used to turn back time for just one object, not necessarily everything in the world that happened at the same time. For instance, when we first saw it used in Doctor Strange, he's eating an apple and then uses the stone to turn the apple's timeline backwards and forwards, showing pieces of it being bitten off and then the other way, with the pieces going back together to make it whole. Whether or not that makes sense is up to the viewer, but they at least established the stone working in that way.
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(05-08-2019 08:58 AM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  
(05-06-2019 03:23 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(04-30-2019 01:23 PM)flyingswoosh Wrote:  Major spoilers ahead

As many of you know, I'm a big Marvel fan. And I've introduced my wife to all the movies, to the point where she enjoys seeing them in theaters. Despite all that, we did not like Endgame at all. I swear we must be the only two people in the world who didn't like it. What issues did we have? Where do i even begin?
-Any tension the movie could have had was undercut right at the beginning when Tony and Nebula were saved after about 5 minutes. Then they found and killed a weakened Thanos less than 10 minutes later.
-Not to mention the fans must all have been incredibly stupid. Every single potential sad moment was telegraphed and totally obvious. They all gasped when Hawkeye's family was snapped away. Did anyone not see that coming?
-Getting back to the rest of the movie: it focused so heavily on the original avengers, but who really likes most of them? Does anyone really care about Hawkeye, or Hulk, or Black Widow? The Hulk/Banner combination was eye rollingly stupid.
-And Thor. where do I even begin with Thor? The fat Thor jokes went on way too long, and his actions in the Asgard scenes were beyond annoying. The fate of trillions was in his hands and is acting like a child.
-The scene on Vormir might have been worse. It MIGHT have been tense if I hadn't already seen an incredibly gut wrenching scene in the same spot during Infinity War. Add to the fact that I don't care about Black Widow, or Hawkeye. And their plan was idiotic. If hawkeye had committed suicide, would Black Widow have gotten the stone? Aren't you supposed to sacrifice the thing you love the most? Does Hawkeye love himself more than anyone? And what if they had both died?!!

We had so many more issues, too numerous to list here. I'm not sure what tone they were trying to hit. Was it serious, was it comical? The tone seemed like it was all over the place.

Sorry, I have no idea how to make the type invisible. Hope the white suffices.


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And while I really enjoyed the moment where Banner/Hulk explains the rules of time travel, I'm confused. It's a great explanation because he understands some of the paradoxes of time travel. You can't travel back in time and change the future because that future already happened - it's now part of your past. But my confusion comes about because in Infinity War, didn't Thanos travel back in time and change the future? After Scarlet Witch destroys the mind stone, he simply turns back the clock a few seconds and takes it himself (bypassing all the fighting he was doing prior to that moment in the original timeline). Seems like they broke their own rules, yeah?

To be fair, the Time Stone can be used to turn back time for just one object, not necessarily everything in the world that happened at the same time. For instance, when we first saw it used in Doctor Strange, he's eating an apple and then uses the stone to turn the apple's timeline backwards and forwards, showing pieces of it being bitten off and then the other way, with the pieces going back together to make it whole. Whether or not that makes sense is up to the viewer, but they at least established the stone working in that way.

Yeah, you're right. Don't know why I forgot about that. In fact, in his movie there are multiple examples of time shifting where he exhibits pretty fine control of the stone over various objects/people. Thanks!
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