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RE: One more time
(04-14-2010 10:15 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: (04-14-2010 12:23 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: (04-13-2010 10:56 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: The original bows were in fact what you would call bad bows. This bow wasn't bad, he was still taller than the guy after he did it.
OK, You believe what you are told. Or you could look at my sig and believe your own eyes.
Nah, never happen...
A bow is a bow, you cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
Look at the difference between the bows in question. The new one is basically a head nod and is no different than what's done between chinese people.
Yeah, I'm thinking no. What makes you think, out of ALLLL the times he's done it, this one would be different? Hell, seems the only leaders he doesn't bow to are white leaders. Then again, I always knew he had a problem with whitey.
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RE: One more time
(04-14-2010 10:18 AM)Rebel Wrote: (04-14-2010 10:15 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: (04-14-2010 12:23 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: (04-13-2010 10:56 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: The original bows were in fact what you would call bad bows. This bow wasn't bad, he was still taller than the guy after he did it.
OK, You believe what you are told. Or you could look at my sig and believe your own eyes.
Nah, never happen...
A bow is a bow, you cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
Look at the difference between the bows in question. The new one is basically a head nod and is no different than what's done between chinese people.
Yeah, I'm thinking no. What makes you think, out of ALLLL the times he's done it, this one would be different? Hell, seems the only leaders he doesn't bow to are white leaders. Then again, I always knew he had a problem with whitey.
That has to be the most ignorant comment you have posted in a while. First, he was talking about the bowing TECHNIQUE not whether it was right or wrong(I still am confused as to why a traditional greeting from another country is making Obama look less powerful). Second, of course he isn't going to bow to white leaders. That typically isn't a traditional way to greet them. Now get your white robe and get to the cross burning. You don't want to be late for the festivities.
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RE: One more time
(04-14-2010 10:15 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: Look at the difference between the bows in question. The new one is basically a head nod and is no different than what's done between chinese people.
You're seriously arguing about the degree to which he bowed?
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04-14-2010 10:49 AM |
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RE: One more time
(04-14-2010 10:48 AM)RobertN Wrote: I still am confused as to why a traditional greeting from another country is making Obama look less powerful
Because he wasn't born in another country, he was born in this one. Right? The bow never changes with the one he's demonstrating subservience to. The subservient party is the one that never changes.
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RE: One more time
(04-14-2010 12:06 PM)I45owl Wrote: (04-14-2010 10:48 AM)RobertN Wrote: I still am confused as to why a traditional greeting from another country is making Obama look less powerful
Because he wasn't born in another country, he was born in this one. Right? The bow never changes with the one he's demonstrating subservience to. The subservient party is the one that never changes.
Bush wasn't born in Saudi Arabia, yet he was holding hands with their leader(it is a tradition). What is your point?
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RE: One more time
(04-14-2010 12:18 PM)RobertN Wrote: (04-14-2010 12:06 PM)I45owl Wrote: (04-14-2010 10:48 AM)RobertN Wrote: I still am confused as to why a traditional greeting from another country is making Obama look less powerful
Because he wasn't born in another country, he was born in this one. Right? The bow never changes with the one he's demonstrating subservience to. The subservient party is the one that never changes.
Bush wasn't born in Saudi Arabia, yet he was holding hands with their leader(it is a tradition). What is your point?
That's considered a sign of mutual respect and friendship in the Middle East. A fuken bow is considered subservience. Ever see a foreign leader bow down to the Kenyan?
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04-14-2010 12:19 PM |
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RE: One more time
(04-14-2010 12:19 PM)Rebel Wrote: (04-14-2010 12:18 PM)RobertN Wrote: (04-14-2010 12:06 PM)I45owl Wrote: (04-14-2010 10:48 AM)RobertN Wrote: I still am confused as to why a traditional greeting from another country is making Obama look less powerful
Because he wasn't born in another country, he was born in this one. Right? The bow never changes with the one he's demonstrating subservience to. The subservient party is the one that never changes.
Bush wasn't born in Saudi Arabia, yet he was holding hands with their leader(it is a tradition). What is your point?
That's considered a sign of mutual respect and friendship in the Middle East. A fuken bow is considered subservience. Ever see a foreign leader bow down to the Kenyan?
If Barry were on his knees blowing another leader, I suspect Robert would be OK with it.
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RE: One more time
(04-14-2010 12:19 PM)Rebel Wrote: That's considered a sign of mutual respect and friendship in the Middle East. A fuken bow is considered subservience. Ever see a foreign leader bow down to the Kenyan?
I swear you have to spoon-feed this stuff to him, and even then he still doesn't get it.
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RE: One more time
(04-14-2010 10:15 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: The new one is basically a head nod and is no different than what's done between chinese people.
Well, when Obama becomes a Chinaman then it will be OK, until then, he represents me, you and all of America and we don't bow to anyone.
Has anyone seen the Queen of England bow? Castro? Putin? Chavez? That gargoyle in N Korea? When one person bows to another can you guess who the person bowing thinks is in charge.
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RE: One more time
(04-14-2010 10:15 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: (04-14-2010 12:23 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: (04-13-2010 10:56 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: The original bows were in fact what you would call bad bows. This bow wasn't bad, he was still taller than the guy after he did it.
OK, You believe what you are told. Or you could look at my sig and believe your own eyes.
Nah, never happen...
A bow is a bow, you cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
Look at the difference between the bows in question. The new one is basically a head nod and is no different than what's done between chinese people.
A head nod? You are seriously smitten by Obama. Open your eyes!!!
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RE: One more time
(04-14-2010 06:01 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: A head nod? You are seriously smitten by Obama. Open your eyes!!!
Bending at the waist with your eyes looking towards the floor are the signs of a subject greeting his superior. Meanwhile, when he addresses us peons, his chin is held high. It's US he should be bowing and apologizing to.
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04-14-2010 06:06 PM |
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RE: One more time
It's only a sign of mutual respect when done, well, mutually. You guys see the Chinese guy doing it? No.
I should know. I learned this from fighting in tournaments and sparring for over 10 years as a student of Isshin Ryu.
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RE: One more time
(04-14-2010 06:01 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: (04-14-2010 10:15 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: (04-14-2010 12:23 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: (04-13-2010 10:56 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: The original bows were in fact what you would call bad bows. This bow wasn't bad, he was still taller than the guy after he did it.
OK, You believe what you are told. Or you could look at my sig and believe your own eyes.
Nah, never happen...
A bow is a bow, you cannot make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
Look at the difference between the bows in question. The new one is basically a head nod and is no different than what's done between chinese people.
A head nod? You are seriously smitten by Obama. Open your eyes!!!
Ummm...I've criticized Obama as much as anyone else on here.
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