(01-21-2010 09:56 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Don't forget to add in some cases, morbidly obese from overeating.....

(01-21-2010 09:57 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Yep, and the ability to buy a carton of cigarettes every week.

These are both red herrings. The government taxes the every loving crap out of cigarettes. You don't want Kev to see this conversation or he'll go off. Secondly, obesity is moreso tied with the absense of time to prepare good food, or the inability to buy food more than it is strictly overeating. One king size Burger King combo -- subbing in a milkshake for a drink -- has nearly FOUR DAYS worth of saturated fat, and 1.5 days of TOTAL CALORIC INTAKE value. And BK is cheap and fast isn't it? And really not more food than a tradition healthy Southern meal you'd get at somewhere like Wade's.

(01-21-2010 08:31 AM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(01-20-2010 11:20 PM)jh Wrote:  

(01-20-2010 12:23 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  

(01-20-2010 12:19 PM)Rebel Wrote:  On the governmental plane, I view social conservatism as tyranny. It's not the government's job to run people's personal lives.

I understand that. But given economics is a social interaction, it's impossible to have "social liberalism" with "fiscal conservatism".

But "liberalism" in social liberalism means the generally the same thing as "conservatism" in fiscal conservatism. The labels are flipped, but the meaning is the same.

No it doesn't. But thanks for playing.

Yes it does. This is fun.

(01-21-2010 11:31 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(01-21-2010 09:56 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Don't forget to add in some cases, morbidly obese from overeating.....

(01-21-2010 09:57 AM)Motown Bronco Wrote:  Yep, and the ability to buy a carton of cigarettes every week.

These are both red herrings. The government taxes the every loving crap out of cigarettes. You don't want Kev to see this conversation or he'll go off. Secondly, obesity is moreso tied with the absense of time to prepare good food, or the inability to buy food more than it is strictly overeating. One king size Burger King combo -- subbing in a milkshake for a drink -- has nearly FOUR DAYS worth of saturated fat, and 1.5 days of TOTAL CALORIC INTAKE value. And BK is cheap and fast isn't it? And really not more food than a tradition healthy Southern meal you'd get at somewhere like Wade's.

Nobody, not even the Obama Administration, forces people to smoke and certainly no one forces you to go to Burger King. So your red herring is a red herring. And an enabling excuse.

Cheap food may not be readily available in every corner of this country, but as just one simple example, a Costco / BJ / Sam's Club membership is $30 - $50 a year. And they now take WIC and Food Stamps. And have all the fresh, healthy food one could haul home in their '85 Ranger.

Morbid obesity is indeed tied to many things. Bronco and my point is that the poor in this country have the ways, the means and the time to maintain a standard of living that much of the world would kill for......

(01-21-2010 12:03 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Nobody, not even the Obama Administration, forces people to smoke and certainly no one forces you to go to Burger King. So your red herring is a red herring. And an enabling excuse.

Cheap food may not be readily available in every corner of this country, but as just one simple example, a Costco / BJ / Sam's Club membership is $30 - $50 a year. And they now take WIC and Food Stamps. And have all the fresh, healthy food one could haul home in their '85 Ranger.

Morbid obesity is indeed tied to many things. Bronco and my point is that the poor in this country have the ways, the means and the time to maintain a standard of living that much of the world would kill for......

Overeating =/= Poor priorities.

And, IMO, the real #1 cause of obesity is (call me sexist) women in the workforce. Both parents come home tired from a long day of work and really just don't want to take the hour(s) to prepare a nice proper meal. With the death of the housewife went the steady, healthy, homemade, trophy meal.

And the real #1 cause of poor people is that they don't recognize education is their way out. That's part "victim culture", part ignorance, poor ****** educational system.