crancan, I can assure you, people are not on your side. Your "poll" regarding my lack of "details" from Thursday was quite possibly the biggest joke in the history of this board (going all the way back to the voy.com days). The "votes" you received were for the most part jokes... and the only real choice in the matter was that you are a moron for arguing it. I'd suggest you take a step back before you become chatter to the 10th power.

(09-27-2009 08:09 PM)mlb Wrote:  crancan, I can assure you, people are not on your side. Your "poll" regarding my lack of "details" from Thursday was quite possibly the biggest joke in the history of this board (going all the way back to the voy.com days). The "votes" you received were for the most part jokes... and the only real choice in the matter was that you are a moron for arguing it. I'd suggest you take a step back before you become chatter to the 10th power.

"mlb",

I hate to come across as "pushy" but in equivalent to a policeman being asked by a suspect, "What for?" I'm asking you pre-emptively, what for?

Do NOT PM me regarding this subject as in most cases, I do prefer transparency when two machines with un-parallel hierarchies interact.

(09-27-2009 08:03 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  There's always a bit of chicken v. egg in this discussion, but I agree more with coop. The Bengals (and UC by the way) are stronger at the passing game and are generally better off establishing the pass first to set up the run (unless the defense dictates otherwise.)

I'd agree with you over the past 3 years...this year, however, I think the O-Line and the set of backs they have will establish a strong (but not spectacular) run game.

I really hate when teams with time-outs and downs remaining opt for the pass inside the 10...the defense in crunched in and almost everyone will be double-teamed. Just run the thing in! If your O-line is worth it's salt, it's a no-brainer...

I think the run game continues to improve during the season. I think Benson is a load with an attitude..

On another note...is Rudi Johnson out of the NFL?

(09-27-2009 08:18 PM)crancan Wrote:  "mlb",

I hate to come across as "pushy" but in equivalent to a policeman being asked by a suspect, "What for?" I'm asking you pre-emptively, what for?

Do NOT PM me regarding this subject as in most cases, I do prefer transparency when two machines with un-parallel hierarchies interact.

I have no issue putting this out publicly.

You started one of the classic threads on this board. To that, I give you a hand... of course, you didn't make the hall of fame, you made the hall of shame. You looked like an idiot in that thread, and this thread helps to reiterate it.

Brian Kelly will not stay or leave based on a thread on this board that talks Cincinnati Bengals football. If you really think it does then you have some sort of mental issue.

I'm as big of fan of UC football as anybody here, but it seems that your posts over the past 4 days have been about as juvenile as you can get.

I'll say this for a 3rd time.. step back from the keyboard, think about what you are posting.

P.S. - Start donating to the Jefferson Street Football complex, start attending the games, start giving to UCATs. Those are the ways you can help to persuade Brian Kelly to stay.

(09-27-2009 08:08 PM)crancan Wrote:  Bearhawkeye, I'll also give you what you want as my response will seem like an attack from I to yourself from most observers but the truth is you addressed me directly to initiate our communication. My simple question to you and by you I mean Bearhawkeye would be, what slack do you speak of?

You don't know what I "want". Please don't assume you do or that you could provide it if you did know.

The slack was that rather than ripping you as an idiot as many others did and as I was tempted, I gave you the benefit of the doubt (which is not to be taken as I was in any way on your side). I considered that you did have a sliver of a point and suggested combining the threads (so that all information be captured including who posted what and when) rather than the either/or solution (actually it was more of a your way only outcome) you demanded.

(09-27-2009 08:19 PM)converrl Wrote:  

(09-27-2009 08:03 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  There's always a bit of chicken v. egg in this discussion, but I agree more with coop. The Bengals (and UC by the way) are stronger at the passing game and are generally better off establishing the pass first to set up the run (unless the defense dictates otherwise.)

I'd agree with you over the past 3 years...this year, however, I think the O-Line and the set of backs they have will establish a strong (but not spectacular) run game.

I really hate when teams with time-outs and downs remaining opt for the pass inside the 10...the defense in crunched in and almost everyone will be double-teamed. Just run the thing in! If your O-line is worth it's salt, it's a no-brainer...

I think the run game continues to improve during the season. I think Benson is a load with an attitude..

On another note...is Rudi Johnson out of the NFL?

Benson is good but I've never heard him discussed as one of the best running backs. IMO, Carson rates higher as a QB and the WRs (as a group) rate higher as WRs than Benson rates as a RB.

Last I heard Rudi was with Detroit. I checked their roster just now and he doesn't appear. I don't think he's in the NFL this year.

(09-27-2009 08:51 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

(09-27-2009 08:19 PM)converrl Wrote:  

(09-27-2009 08:03 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  There's always a bit of chicken v. egg in this discussion, but I agree more with coop. The Bengals (and UC by the way) are stronger at the passing game and are generally better off establishing the pass first to set up the run (unless the defense dictates otherwise.)

I'd agree with you over the past 3 years...this year, however, I think the O-Line and the set of backs they have will establish a strong (but not spectacular) run game.

I really hate when teams with time-outs and downs remaining opt for the pass inside the 10...the defense in crunched in and almost everyone will be double-teamed. Just run the thing in! If your O-line is worth it's salt, it's a no-brainer...

I think the run game continues to improve during the season. I think Benson is a load with an attitude..

On another note...is Rudi Johnson out of the NFL?

Benson is good but I've never heard him discussed as one of the best running backs. IMO, Carson rates higher as a QB and the WRs (as a group) rate higher as WRs than Benson rates as a RB.

Last I heard Rudi was with Detroit. I checked their roster just now and he doesn't appear. I don't think he's in the NFL this year.

After departing the Bengals, did Chris Perry get on with his life's work?

EDIT: I just found the following: http://www.ufl-football.com/press/2009/0...ason_draft

Apparently, Mr Perry was drafted by the UFL Orlando entry.

(09-27-2009 07:20 PM)crancan Wrote:  "Oleskl", you have all the time in the world to explain yourself as I've done nary a hair of action that would call for a suspended account on this board since my inception.

you have successfully annoyed most everyone who has read your nonsense and actually been able to decipher your posts.

why don't you get serious or get lost?

The 4th and ten play Leonard makes was absolutely huge. Gets tripped up and seems to float 3 inches from the ground for the last 3 yards. Also in great news the Bengals two end of game offense has been tremendous. Twice in 3 weeks they have needed to go the length of the field and get a touchdown to win the game and they've done it (though the fluke happened at denver).

I also think they have 24 points in the last two minutes of the first half and game in the first 3 games.

Leonard showed fantastic balance and showed off why he made this team. Fantastic play all the way around. Glad Palmer had enough confidence in Leonard to throw it to him well before the first down marker.

Congrats Bengals fans Huge win!

(09-27-2009 08:05 PM)crancan Wrote:  "Oleskl",

Thanks for the response. I'm glad to see you stretch your opinion, although still incomplete. Part of the way I carry myself here at the boards is to give free reign to the community's word over just a couple posters' word(s). So, the process including the polls that open an avenue of opinion from the community here at NCAABBS definitely makes up for my suggestions that some assume are brash and uncalculated.

I thought I made myself very clear in my previous postings that I'm always willing to set my ego aside if it receives a collective negative response. Fortunately, I've yet to see that play out. The couple of times I've put my opinions on the line, the community at NCAABBS has resoundingly either backed me or pleaded no contest to the situation at hand.

Hopefully, now that you see how I conduct myself here at NCAABBS, you'll have a better vantage point which will lead to the respect not to jump to conclusions. But, I see where you're coming from also and that's how I differ. The man with the switchboard at his helm has a remarkably less effective will power to surpass things you don't quite agree on. Instead, threats ensue which leads to unnecessary negativity and a depletion of one or more's ability to spread his or her opinion in a free manner.

Do NOT PM me regarding this subject as in most cases, I do prefer transparency when two machines with un-parallel hierarchies interact.

Quote:I do prefer transparency when two machines with un-parallel hierarchies interact

I know that writing style! It sounds like every email informing me of a huge unclaimed international lottery winning or a large sum of money in a South African bank that is mine but for a small exchange.

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From - Crancran Steele Hampshirington ESQ. (In service to Her Majesty's Royal Treasury LIC: 8675309)
Urgent response requested from Mr. Eastside

In regards to unclaimed funds in the amount of $50 Million United States Dollars (USD), the mandatory release of which is hiterto imminent per the Royal Exchequer via the National Banc of Nigeria.

Sirs Eastside, et al: Your urgent reply in the matter is of tantamount importance. The sum of money referenced heretofore, cannot be released without proper beneficiary validation and compensatory appeasement of the fidicuciary principals involved.

Please avoid sending uncalculated messages through standard post. I do prefer transparency when two machines with un-parallel hierarchies interact

Under Official Seal of the Royal Treasury
Crancran Steele Hampshirington ESQ,
Appointed Secy -Royal Nolo Contendere Society

Quote:From - Crancran Steele Hampshirington ESQ. (In service to Her Majesty's Royal Treasury LIC: 8675309)
Urgent response requested from Mr. Eastside

In regards to unclaimed funds in the amount of $50 Million United States Dollars (USD), the mandatory release of which is hiterto imminent per the Royal Exchequer via the National Banc of Nigeria.

Sirs Eastside, et al: Your urgent reply in the matter is of tantamount importance. The sum of money referenced heretofore, cannot be released without proper beneficiary validation and compensatory appeasement of the fidicuciary principals involved.

Please avoid sending uncalculated messages through standard post. I do prefer transparency when two machines with un-parallel hierarchies interact

Under Official Seal of the Royal Treasury
Crancran Steele Hampshirington ESQ,
Appointed Secy -Royal Nolo Contendere Society

Everyone loves a Crancan parody...[/quote]

Jeez- Somebody took a bunch of crazy pills this weekend. I'm still trying to figure out what he was really talking about there.

Anyway, on the Bengals. I thought trying to run the ball 1st and 2nd down killed them early on. They'd end up with 3rd and way too long. Just because going mainly run worked against GB doesn't mean its going to work against Pittsburgh. Once they got down and needed to move the ball more quickly to score and starting throwing more, that's when they scored. I think they have to be opportunistic. I think passing and the receivers are still their best weapon. They should look to throw the ball and go with a faster offense unless they're up against a team that's bad against the run, then maybe they can afford to be more run focused.

(09-28-2009 09:06 AM)Murph29 Wrote:  Jeez- Somebody took a bunch of crazy pills this weekend. I'm still trying to figure out what he was really talking about there.

Anyway, on the Bengals. I thought trying to run the ball 1st and 2nd down killed them early on. They'd end up with 3rd and way too long. Just because going mainly run worked against GB doesn't mean its going to work against Pittsburgh. Once they got down and needed to move the ball more quickly to score and starting throwing more, that's when they scored. I think they have to be opportunistic. I think passing and the receivers are still their best weapon. They should look to throw the ball and go with a faster offense unless they're up against a team that's bad against the run, then maybe they can afford to be more run focused.

I just think they were too predictable on first and second down in the first quarter against the steelers. They did however run the ball really well for the first of the game (and still ran a good amount on first down). Benson had 16 carries for 76 yards. I was really happy Brat didn't abandon the run when they got down. I thought the play calling from 2nd quarter on was damn good. The Pittsburgh defense was really off balance for the rest of the game and even though the Bengals did not always scoring 3 and outs were rare and they moved the ball.