You CAN sell alcohol at sporting events. Alot of the bowl games serve beer.

(12-18-2010 06:57 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  You CAN sell alcohol at sporting events. Alot of the bowl games serve beer.

Bowl games are not NCAA events... campuses are free to make the rules about alcohol sales but you won't find many that do, particularily with on-campus facilities... the risk management aspects will always outweigh ANY revenue flow strategy. Host liability is not something you will see many campuses undertaking for a million reasons.

You may find sales and even some advertising at "off campus" venues but the liability of the individual school is negated when they "lease" or pay to play. This might be a great option for ETSU with an off campus facility managed by a LLC or some sort like a "sports authority" or some profit (or even a Not-for-profit) status organization. I really don't think you'd see people throwing back the brewskies while sitting down in the stands but a great set up might be a "club seating" area with the hospitality being controlled by a staff member.

This is the NCAA policy on alcohol advertising and sales:

Alcohol Advertising
The NCAA is concerned about alcohol abuse linked to athletics events. As a result, the Association strictly limits alcohol advertising during championship events and works to educate student-athletes and fans about the abuses of alcohol.

As with all NCAA policy, this is one determined not by the NCAA national office staff but by leadership from the membership. The NCAA provides its members with resources to assist in educating student-athletes and creating and maintaining an environment that promotes healthy choices about alcohol.

Championship Policy -

•The NCAA has for years banned sales and venue advertising of all alcohol at its 88 championships. Host sites are required to cover up any ads for alcoholic drinks.
•The NCAA does not control the regular season in any sport, nor does it run the postseason for the Division I Football Bowl Subdivision. Individual schools and conferences oversee the regular season, including game operations, broadcasting and advertising. The postseason for Division I Football Bowl Subdivision is controlled by the Bowl Championship Series and individual bowl committees.
Advertising Policy -

•The NCAA limits alcohol advertising during telecasts of its championships to no more than 60 seconds per hour during a broadcast, and it prohibits ads for all beverages where the alcoholic content exceeds six percent. Many of the alcohol ads contain language stressing the legal and responsible use of alcohol.
•Pregame and postgame telecasts are not under NCAA control and not subject to NCAA policy.
•In August 2008, the NCAA Executive Committee affirmed the Association's alcohol policy, including for advertising, describing it as very conservative and appropriate. Moreover, there have not been any proposals from the NCAA membership to change the Association's alcohol advertising policy.
Men's Final Four Viewership/Advertising Details -

•According to the Nielson Company, the median age of the 2008 Division I Men's Basketball Championship viewer was 47. Nielsen's viewers percentage for those 21 and older was 88.7 percent for the 2008 tournament.
•For the 2008 Men's Final Four, alcohol advertising comprised less than six percent of the total ad inventory.

(12-18-2010 10:54 AM)JWBUC Wrote:  

(12-18-2010 10:31 AM)bucfan81 Wrote:  I remember being at the game in Freedom Hall. I remember seeing Phil Ford play buy not Michael.The coach was just before Sonny Smith had come. I think he was Leroy Fisher and the Bucs were pretty horrible under him. The reason that Dean Smith had come to JC was to help ETSU inaugurate the Mini-Dome and he had agreed to be a part of the festivities. Of course the Dome was delayed in being completed and the game was forced to Freedom Hall. Dean Smith did not seem bothered at all and played the game there and it was an easy one for the Tar Heels. Just my memory.

Tarheels

December 20

1975--Kupchak, Ford, Davis Star at ETSU
JOHNSON CITY, Tenn.--Mitch Kupchak made 12 of 13 field goal attempts for 24 points as North Carolina crushed East Tennessee State, 104-67, at Freedom Hall.

Carolina shot 64.1 percent from the floor in rolling to its impressive victory.

In addition to Kupchak, Phil Ford and Walter Davis each hit nine of 11 shots, while Tommy LaGarde was six for 10. Ford finished with 19 points and 11 assists. Davis had 18 points, five rebounds and five assists, while LaGarde added 15 points and 10 rebounds.

Kupchak grabbed 11 rebounds as Carolina dominated the backboards, 50-33. Although John Kuester did not score a point, he had nine assists as the Tar Heels constantly worked the ball inside for easy shots or scored off fast break opportunities.

Carolina never trailed in the game after Ford nailed an 18-foot jumper in the first 20 seconds. The Buccaneers did manage three ties in the early moments. But, with the score 6-6, the Tar Heels scored 10 straight points in less than three minutes to begin pulling away. Davis hit three long jumpers in this stretch, Kupchak, scored on a tap-in and Ford had a layup.

Carolina built a 53-33 lead by halftime. Ford had 15 points in the first 20 minutes, Davis added 14 and Kupchak had 10.

Tar Heel Coach Dean Smith substituted freely throughout the second half as every Tar Heel player except Kuester scored.

I gotta be more careful. My apologies about inaccurately saying Jordan played at ETSU. I was there. I'll blame Phil Ford whom I transposed in my mind to be his Airness...the high flying Jordan himself. I wonder if Talford could fly as far as Jordan? That would be a cool competition.

I was at that game as well. There was an ETSU player who did well that night and then later transferred to NC State and did pretty well in the ACC. Anyone remember his name?

(02-16-2011 08:18 PM)EastTennesseeState Wrote:  I was at that game as well. There was an ETSU player who did well that night and then later transferred to NC State and did pretty well in the ACC. Anyone remember his name?

Yes...Gerald Sensabaugh. He's still playing in the NFL for the Cowboys. He was at a recent ETSU basketball game and has great affection for Doc Robertson. When ETSU killed football...Gerald transferred to North Carolina for his senior year. I don't know if he graduated from UNC...He does live in Kingsport during the off season. Here is some stuff on him.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gerald Lind Sensabaugh, Jr. (born June 13, 1983) is an American football Safety for the Dallas Cowboys of the National Football League. He was drafted by the Jacksonville Jaguars in the fifth round of the 2005 NFL Draft. He played college football at North Carolina.

Early years

Sensabaugh attended Dobyns-Bennett High School and was a standout in football and track. In football, he helped lead his team to two Class 5A Semifinals appearances and, as a senior, also played on offense, recording 42 receptions for 420 yards and seven touchdowns and was an All-Big Nine selection. In track, he won a state championship in the long jump.
College career

Sensabaugh originally attended East Tennessee State University but transferred to the University of North Carolina as a senior when ETSU disbanded their football program. He finished his one-year UNC career with four interceptions, five fumble recoveries and three touchdowns. He tied an NCAA single-game record after blocking three punts in one game.



You maybe talking basketball...and if that's the case...the only ETSU person who left ETSU for NC State to my knowledge is the coach...Les Robinson.

It was NC State Wolfpack basketball. I checked both ETSU and NCSU basketball rosters on sportsfan.com from 75-80 but couldn't find him. Oh well.

(02-16-2011 08:41 PM)Mister Jennings Wrote:  

(02-16-2011 08:18 PM)EastTennesseeState Wrote:  I was at that game as well. There was an ETSU player who did well that night and then later transferred to NC State and did pretty well in the ACC. Anyone remember his name?

Yes...Gerald Sensabaugh. He's still playing in the NFL for the Cowboys. He was at a recent ETSU basketball game and has great affection for Doc Robertson. When ETSU killed football...Gerald transferred to North Carolina for his senior year. I don't know if he graduated from UNC...He does live in Kingsport during the off season. Here is some stuff on him.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gerald Lind Sensabaugh, Jr. (born June 13, 1983)......

Yeah, that's right..... Sensabaugh (that one) was born in 1983, but did well in the 1975 game at Freedom Hall against UNC..........uh-huh.....
Did he also star the in the "Back to the Future" movies?

(02-16-2011 09:34 PM)EastTennesseeState Wrote:  It was NC State Wolfpack basketball. I checked both ETSU and NCSU basketball rosters on sportsfan.com from 75-80 but couldn't find him. Oh well.

I can't see how to find rosters on that site. Please give me some additional info and I'll try to figure it out...

I listed the wrong site, it's http://www.fanbase.com. I just got to looking last night and accidentally found this site via Google. It lists all players for NCAA teams (many sports) back several years. There is a charge but you can view the rosters for free.

I grew up in an ACC area and have followed basketball in that conference for years. I am pretty sure there was a player who went from ETSU to NC State. I thought from the 1975 team that played UNC in Freedom Hall but I can't find a match.

I, of course, was at that game, too, and just don't remember such a transfer, although certainly that's something I could forget, if he wasn't a noteworthy ETSU player.
A quick search of the NC State rosters from 1976-1979 doesn't show me anyone I think was ever at ETSU, but my search was not exhaustive.....

I did find a "Tuny Pinder" (don't remember him at all) on the ETSU roster for 1975-6, and a "Kindal Pinder" on the NC St. roster for 1977-9. That's quite a coincidence for an unusual surname.

Check this out:

Kendall (Tiny) Pinder

He was a 5th-round pick out of NC St. for the Hawks in 1979, so the timeline is right. (Cat Watson was an 8th-round pick for Houston that same draft.) He (Pinder) also later had a stint with the Globetrotters....

The more time I spend with this name ("Pinder"), the more I remember 'it' at ETSU, but I simply cannot picture him.....

IF such an individual did transfer from ETSU to NC. St., it almost had to be this guy, if it's the same person, and they've just got it misspelled on that site within the ETSU rosters. Maybe someone could find the boxscore of this game from the NC St. site??

[Followup: there is a "Kendall Pinder" listed in the 1976 ETSU Yearbook. Later on (in the '90s, after the 'trotters), he apparently played in Australia, and got into some legal trouble, twice convicted, and once acquitted, of sexual assaults in Australia.]

That name sounds familiar and did get my attention. I see him listed with ETSU for 75-76 only. That may very well be the one. I seem to remember him doing well in the UNC game and then a couple of years later becoming a starter for NC State.