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Campbell at BSC
Who will win? Predict Campbell for a 2-0 start!
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I think we should win easily. If we can beat Methodist we should run over these guys.

They have a lot of new players and frankly we should have beaten them last year.

My prediction is we get a win and by two or three touchdowns.

Hope the defense does a better job this week.
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My fearless score prediction this week is Campbell 31 BSC 17
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(09-08-2009 05:14 PM)camels7778 Wrote:  My fearless score prediction this week is Campbell 31 BSC 17

Camels are gold bar, go the bank on this one.
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20 to 15 at Halftime.
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21 to 20

We have played horrible since being up 20 to 9

Four tournovers and no defense. I repeat NOOOOOOO Defense. If DIV III runs all over your defense I shutter to think what is going to happen.

We should have already outscored them and put the game away.

Wonder why Coach Steele will not run Carl Smith. He gets one carry or a touchdown and then we run the finesse guys rather than the bruiser up the middle. BSU is running all over us.

Correction - Now 28 to 20 BSU. We are probably going to lose.

This is very discouraging to me. Four tournovers, no defense and horrible play calling and decision making.

Let's see what happens
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A loss as I feared.

Our coaches need to get a clue on play calling in certain situations and having the right players on the field in certain situations.

We are down 28 to 20 and need to tie the game. Finally - it must have been a message from God to the coaching staff they put Carl Smith in at tailback. He catches a pass and gets a first down and runs for a couple of others. Opens up the game and we make a few more passes. When you need the big first down inside the 10 you give it to Carl and he gets it by 1 yard. You give him the ball again and he takes it to the house. We tie the game - Great comeback - I am really proud of us coming back (Note - we had no business in this situation in the first place)

Then overtime - Again no defense - This is troublesome to me. Our defense could not stop them today. We have them 3rd and 17 and let them throw a touchdown pass. Where was the coverage? Give them the underneath pass but not the endzone. They can't kick so if you stop them game over. But no we have to blow the coverage and that is that.

OK - Earth to coaching staff - We have to score and tie to extend the game. Who did you give the rock to? It should be the guy that just got the job done so we are in the overtime. Well it surely was not who you sent on the field for the overtime. We use Oats and Brown - Did not even give Smith a chance. Then we get to third and short. Bells and whistles ought to go off in the coaching staff's head to give Carl the ball. Give it to him twice if you need to he is your short yardage back. We run some play action crap and Polk gets dropped for a loss. Then he throws his second interception. Game over.

Wrong play calling for situation and wrong people in the game coach. Also poor execution at the play that was run. Polk had three turnovers - 2 picks and one fumble. Brown fumbled the ball and Vollano had a pick. Oates fumbled one too but the whistle saved him from the 6th turnover of the game. You can't turn the ball over six times and beat anybody.

We should have won today. No excuse for the loss. Good thing is that we have an offense this year. They are working fairly well - if you know how to use them.

At times the defense does not exist. We have let Mehodist and BSU run us all down the field. Wonder what will happen when we play in the conference. (Defense actually is playing worse right now than they did last year) I hope this turns around.

You have to win the games you should win and then steal a game or two. We lost a game we should have won easily and had in full control at 20 to 9. This loss really hurts.

Maybe the offensive coaching staff will have a vision this week and play Carl Smith a little more next week. Like I have said since the first time I saw him play last year - He is the best back we have. I think he proved it today. Too bad the coaching staff has not figured that out yet.

I think our radio announcers have figured it out to. Bad thing it is took them over a year and the coaching staff has been at it over a year and still can't get it right. I had figured this out week two against Methodist last year. I don't know what the coaches are looking at or thinking. Sorry guys but that is the hard truth.
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money for better leadership and direction.
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Ok, I',m eating crow right now. That was a total embarrassment to be beaten by a DIII, 2nd year program. All I can say about that is football is definitely more serious in the South (down here) than it will ever, ever be in the North Carolina region of Campbell land. Football in Alabama/Tennessee/Georgia is king, no matter if it is a DIII school. A loss is not the end of the world, but I saw too many smiles by some coaching staff after the game. As my son said afterwards, "I would have been a heck of a lot more mad than they were".... correct play calling? Hard to second guess.... correct people on the field? Nope, and it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on with that.... Campell is currectly a middle of the road DIII football team. They are young, no matter what anyone says. Losing this was an embarrassment, even in my positve eyes! It is easy to point fingers at the coaches after a loss. I'm even doing it now! However, 5 turnovers will get you beat almost every time. Defense was shotty, QB play was horrendous, receivers did not run good routes or know how to get open when QB was forced out of pocket (noticed BS receiver on touchdown in overtime?), line was slow, special teams was below average, etc... on and on. The team I saw at home last weekend and the team I saw today did not even look the same. Hard for me to understand.
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It was a disappointing loss for sure. The defense did not play well. The team had a chance to take control but didn't in the second and third quarter. I would question some of the play calls but this team is still attempting to find an identity. Way to many turnovers. A loss is always disappointing. I agree Smith should play more but I think it should be at the expense of Brown and not Oates. Oates is the most explosive of our backs and he has a chance to score most times he gets it. It might be time to make three-headed monster two. The defensive third down play in overtime was inexcusable. I think the corner might have got confused when it looked like Thigpen was going to run. He should have stuck with his coverage. We showed we have a weakness defending the option. I thought our defensive line did a good job of putting pressure on the quarterback. I think they did lose containment several times. I am not down on this team. I still think we are capable of another win. I'm not sure when. We will regroup and I hope we do otherwise it is going to be long year.

I am encouraged that we have more explosive plays on offense. That is the sort of improvement that I am looking for. Sometimes it takes losing a few close ones before we figure out how to win close games. This was really only the second close game we have played in two years and we did wilt a little bit. Hopefully we are better next week.
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This should not have been a close game folks. Campbell should have won by two or three touchdowns.

We were up 20-9 and had them on the ropes. A score at the end of half and good drive in the third quarter finishes the game.

I am not advocating that they not play any one of the three backs. They are all pretty good and should be used. I just think they need to make better decisions of when and how to use them. You are right Oates is explosive and can make a big play. I will give you that. But when it is 3rd and 2 and you need to keep the drive going - Smith is your man to get the first down. He wears down the defense and is better this year than last year. He runs north/south and gets the needed yards. Oates is more likely to turn a big play but he is not the guy to give the ball to on 3rd and two up the middle to pound out the yards. Brown should be used as well but in particular situations.

The loss Saturday was an embarassment. The play calling made me so mad I did not even listed to the post-game. Did not care what the coach had to say because there was no excuse for what happened on Saturday. I had to watch golf to calm down. Heck I would have been better off to have played a round of golf Saturday afternoon and not even listened to the game.

We are going to score more points this year because the offense is explosive. Sad thing is that defense wins games and we have no defense. If DIV III runs all over the defense then I shutter to think what the PFL offenses are going to do. You know it was not like it was a mistery what BSU was going to do. You had to stop Thigpen and we let him move the ball all over us. If our coaches can't make any better decisions than what were made of Saturday - There needs to be some changes.
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Now that I have had some time to 'cool' off after the drive back yesterday, I still am having a hard time with that game. I was reading the local papers about Tennessee losing, and Crompton had like 3 interceptions and 1 fumble. Sounded very familar with what happend to Campbell. Eric Berry (All American DB) stepped up and stated there 'would be no finger pointing'. That's probably what we all should do. Head coaches do not play a down, they have assistants that makes errors, players make errors, and we all make mistakes since we are human. We are all disappointed with that loss, but as Camel76 points out time and time again about 'reality', the 'reality' of it all is that both programs are in there 2nd year of existance. It makes no difference if one is DIII and the other is Di-aa at this time. Both are non-scholarship programs. Both have high academic standards. Birmingham, being in the heart of football world, probably has an easier time of getting similar players as Campbell. Why do we expect Campbell to play like a DI team in it's 2nd year? It's not real. As I stated earlier, they are a mid-level DIII team right now. Coaching or no coaching is not going to change that. A DIII team down here in the South (Sewanee, a historical terrible team around here) has a freshman running back that I saw in High School that is as good or better than any back Campbell has right now. That's not a cut at all. It's just the facts! I believe our expectations may be a little high for a 2nd year program. That's all.
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By the way, someone earlier posted that if we could beat Methodist we should run all over these guys. From my observations, BS had better athletes all around that Methodist, and more of them. If you remember, Campbell scored 4 touchdowns in big plays (3 pass plays of 60+ yards or better plus the kick off blunder), so I was a little concerned about having to depend on the big play so much. BS had much better defensive backs that did not allow our receivers to go long. BS was much better than Methodist in my humble opinion.
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(09-13-2009 08:41 PM)newcampbellfan Wrote:  By the way, someone earlier posted that if we could beat Methodist we should run all over these guys. From my observations, BS had better athletes all around that Methodist, and more of them. If you remember, Campbell scored 4 touchdowns in big plays (3 pass plays of 60+ yards or better plus the kick off blunder), so I was a little concerned about having to depend on the big play so much. BS had much better defensive backs that did not allow our receivers to go long. BS was much better than Methodist in my humble opinion.

You may be right. If they are they have improved a whole lot over the team I saw play us last year. The BSU team I saw last year was about the weakest team Campbell played last year.

I will say this though. Methodist took it too us from the first of the game two weeks ago and were ahead 21 -7. We had BSU down 20-9 and then we just quit playing.

I don't think it makes much difference if football is bigger in Alabama, Georgia etc than it is in NC. The fact of the matter is we should have won the game on Saturday. I am questioning the decision making ability and the way the game was run Saturday. That is on the coaching staff. Even if the assistant's make the calls the Head Coach puts them there and he should evaluate whether or not they can get the job done. The buck stops with the head coach.
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(09-12-2009 08:23 PM)newcampbellfan Wrote:  Ok, I',m eating crow right now. That was a total embarrassment to be beaten by a DIII, 2nd year program. All I can say about that is football is definitely more serious in the South (down here) than it will ever, ever be in the North Carolina region of Campbell land. Football in Alabama/Tennessee/Georgia is king, no matter if it is a DIII school. A loss is not the end of the world, but I saw too many smiles by some coaching staff after the game. As my son said afterwards, "I would have been a heck of a lot more mad than they were".... correct play calling? Hard to second guess.... correct people on the field? Nope, and it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on with that.... Campell is currectly a middle of the road DIII football team. They are young, no matter what anyone says. Losing this was an embarrassment, even in my positve eyes! It is easy to point fingers at the coaches after a loss. I'm even doing it now! However, 5 turnovers will get you beat almost every time. Defense was shotty, QB play was horrendous, receivers did not run good routes or know how to get open when QB was forced out of pocket (noticed BS receiver on touchdown in overtime?), line was slow, special teams was below average, etc... on and on. The team I saw at home last weekend and the team I saw today did not even look the same. Hard for me to understand.

Welcome aboard dude, I actually thought you would make it longer than 2 games. We have become one.
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