(08-25-2009 10:58 PM)BARTLETTTIGER Wrote:  

(08-25-2009 10:23 AM)homefry20 Wrote:  

(08-24-2009 09:43 PM)Tiger.J Wrote:  What were those five reasons the Cubs were going to win the NL Central? I forgot

Dont worry, so have all the Cub fans.

The reason why it did not work was that those Cubs players got hurt or were not effective in the final analysis. Zambrano is too much a hothead and has not learn how to channel his temper to pitch effectively. Along with the Cubs injuries, that is why the Cubs are looking at the Saint Louis Cardinals rear view mirrors.

Or maybe instead of sitting on their arses as the deadline approached, they should have gone out and got some pitching? Their complete lack of effort shouldnt be overlooked. There were several pitchers available for the right price. The injury bug hasnt really been an issue. DLee went on the DL earlier in the season but was struggling going in and once he returned, started playing up to his potential. Aramis going down did hurt but one man doesnt make a team, not even Pujols and the Cards. Soto was out for awhile but Im not sure it was a loss considering he was batting a smooth .220 at that point.

The Cubs have three main problems that cause them to struggle:

1) No true leadoff hitter. They have no one with speed that can get on base consistently therefore DLees xbase hits are worthless quite often.
2) No closer. They gave a raise to a guy that led the NL in blown saves last year with the Marlins to be their closer? It speaks for itself when it doesnt work out.
3) Too many big contracts. Most notably, Alfonso Soriano. Why havent they tried to move him? He serves no purpose for them but could revamp his career somewhere else.
Sidebar) I dont think the pitching is the problem. It appears that the pitchers are trying to hard to locate the perfect pitch because they know that if they give up more than 3 runs then its most likely over since the offense is anemic right now.

(08-26-2009 08:14 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(08-24-2009 06:10 PM)BARTLETTTIGER Wrote:  

(08-24-2009 02:03 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  Yep, 8 games out. Baseball is still gay.

What are you poppaslaw, eight years old? If someone does not agree with what you say, everyone else opinion is gay? I know you love the Chicago Cubs, but enough is enough man. Do you "Seek and Dsstroy" Mission since your Cubs are losing quickly their chance to make the playoffs.

Oh I get it now. You have a thing for me. I'm extremely flattered but I'm happily married.

I think you should just lightendafucup. Laugh a little bit bro. Do some stretches and relax psycho.

You are so funny I forget to laugh. The Saint Louis Cardinals are up nine games up on the Chicago Cubs bottom line, and that is all I care about. Good luck next year with the Cubs.

(08-26-2009 08:14 AM)poppaslaw Wrote:  

(08-24-2009 06:10 PM)BARTLETTTIGER Wrote:  

(08-24-2009 02:03 PM)poppaslaw Wrote:  Yep, 8 games out. Baseball is still gay.

What are you poppaslaw, eight years old? If someone does not agree with what you say, everyone else opinion is gay? I know you love the Chicago Cubs, but enough is enough man. Do you "Seek and Dsstroy" Mission since your Cubs are losing quickly their chance to make the playoffs.

Oh I get it now. You have a thing for me. I'm extremely flattered but I'm happily married.

I think you should just lightendafucup. Laugh a little bit bro. Do some stretches and relax psycho.

Oh Fukudome.

(j/k Kosuke that is)

(08-26-2009 09:44 AM)homefry20 Wrote:  

(08-25-2009 10:58 PM)BARTLETTTIGER Wrote:  

(08-25-2009 10:23 AM)homefry20 Wrote:  

(08-24-2009 09:43 PM)Tiger.J Wrote:  What were those five reasons the Cubs were going to win the NL Central? I forgot

Dont worry, so have all the Cub fans.

The reason why it did not work was that those Cubs players got hurt or were not effective in the final analysis. Zambrano is too much a hothead and has not learn how to channel his temper to pitch effectively. Along with the Cubs injuries, that is why the Cubs are looking at the Saint Louis Cardinals rear view mirrors.

Or maybe instead of sitting on their arses as the deadline approached, they should have gone out and got some pitching? Their complete lack of effort shouldnt be overlooked. There were several pitchers available for the right price. The injury bug hasnt really been an issue. DLee went on the DL earlier in the season but was struggling going in and once he returned, started playing up to his potential. Aramis going down did hurt but one man doesnt make a team, not even Pujols and the Cards. Soto was out for awhile but Im not sure it was a loss considering he was batting a smooth .220 at that point.

The Cubs have three main problems that cause them to struggle:

1) No true leadoff hitter. They have no one with speed that can get on base consistently therefore DLees xbase hits are worthless quite often.
2) No closer. They gave a raise to a guy that led the NL in blown saves last year with the Marlins to be their closer? It speaks for itself when it doesnt work out.
3) Too many big contracts. Most notably, Alfonso Soriano. Why havent they tried to move him? He serves no purpose for them but could revamp his career somewhere else.
Sidebar) I dont think the pitching is the problem. It appears that the pitchers are trying to hard to locate the perfect pitch because they know that if they give up more than 3 runs then its most likely over since the offense is anemic right now.

I'd gladly take Soriano back on the Yankees. I'd take him in LF over Bay or Holliday (1 of whom will be in pinstripes next year )

Pujols hammers a LONG one to win it in the 9th. Just missed Big Mac Land. 9 games up again.

The last 6 times the Cardinals have lost the Cubs have lost on the same day.I think the division lead will be 12 games at season's end.The HR by Pujols was great but the shot by Klalil Greene to tie it 2-2 in the 8th was the play of the game.

(08-29-2009 09:25 AM)Gibson Tiger Wrote:  The last 6 times the Cardinals have lost the Cubs have lost on the same day.I think the division lead will be 12 games at season's end.The HR by Pujols was great but the shot by Klalil Greene to tie it 2-2 in the 8th was the play of the game.

Cubs down on the Mets four to three in the bottom of the fifth. To me what really killed the Cubs this season was the injuriy to Aramis Ramirez this year.

Nats took 2 /3 from the Cubbies.. Deezzz Nats

(08-29-2009 05:12 PM)callemasIsee-em Wrote:  Nats took 2 /3 from the Cubbies.. Deezzz Nats

Chicago Cubs hit a grand slam home run in the fifth inning to take a eight four lead over the New York Mets. The Cubbies scored five runs in the bottom of the fifth.

(08-29-2009 05:29 PM)BARTLETTTIGER Wrote:  

(08-29-2009 05:12 PM)callemasIsee-em Wrote:  Nats took 2 /3 from the Cubbies.. Deezzz Nats

Chicago Cubs hit a grand slam home run in the fifth inning to take a eight four lead over the New York Mets. The Cubbies scored five runs in the bottom of the fifth.

The Saint Louis Cardinals sweep the Nationals by the score of two to one and the 'Birds on the Bat take a ten lead game over the Chicago Cubs. The Cubs lose to the New York Mets yesterday four to one. The National League Central Division is the Cardinals and the Cubs season is over for all intents and purposes, even for the NL wildcard race. Adam Wainright also gets his Major Leading sixteenth win yesterday. The only question to me know will Wainright get twenty wins this year before the playoffs start?

Cards are geting lucky with the schedule during this scoring drought.
Poised to peak at the right time.

(08-31-2009 07:19 AM)TiggerFan Wrote:  Cards are geting lucky with the schedule during this scoring drought.
Poised to peak at the right time.

Even though the MLB has an unbalanced schedule overall, the Cards had a much tougher schedule early on and managed to build a lead and now they can reap the benefits of playing some minor league teams until seasons end. Still got that one big series left with the Cubbies tho

(08-31-2009 09:23 AM)homefry20 Wrote:  

(08-31-2009 07:19 AM)TiggerFan Wrote:  Cards are geting lucky with the schedule during this scoring drought.
Poised to peak at the right time.

Even though the MLB has an unbalanced schedule overall, the Cards had a much tougher schedule early on and managed to build a lead and now they can reap the benefits of playing some minor league teams until seasons end. Still got that one big series left with the Cubbies tho

The Cardinals are ten games up from the Cubbies with a month to go, unless the Saint Louis Cardinals have a momentual collaspe and the Chicago Cubs wins at a high rate, the season series and the division is the 'Birds on the Bat for them to lose. Good luck to the Northsiders next year, though.

How can there continue to be trades after the mid-July "Trading Deadline"? I just saw the Dodgers picked up Jim Thome from the White Sox. Look out, Dodgers are really, really loaded now, as if they weren't already.

When was the last time Thome played 1B? I bet he sees more time as a PH going forward. Still, a good pickup.

(09-01-2009 12:36 PM)UofMark Wrote:  How can there continue to be trades after the mid-July "Trading Deadline"? I just saw the Dodgers picked up Jim Thome from the White Sox. Look out, Dodgers are really, really loaded now, as if they weren't already.

the "trading deadline" really means the "non-waiver trading deadline"

After July 31, a player must clear waivers or be claimed (based on record, worst gets first choice, etc.). Once a player is claimed, depending on what type of free agent (A or B), the current team gets to decide whether to trade, release, or keep said player in what is i think a three day window.

It really gets compicated but i hope this helps.

It's over and my Cubs are playing out the rest of the season. When the tying run gets called out at home on an empty glove tag and Lou doesn't get kicked out of the game. Then you know he and the rest of the team have given up.

(09-01-2009 12:36 PM)UofMark Wrote:  How can there continue to be trades after the mid-July "Trading Deadline"? I just saw the Dodgers picked up Jim Thome from the White Sox. Look out, Dodgers are really, really loaded now, as if they weren't already.

And St. Louis still took 5 of 7 from them.

(09-01-2009 01:54 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  

(09-01-2009 12:36 PM)UofMark Wrote:  How can there continue to be trades after the mid-July "Trading Deadline"? I just saw the Dodgers picked up Jim Thome from the White Sox. Look out, Dodgers are really, really loaded now, as if they weren't already.

the "trading deadline" really means the "non-waiver trading deadline"

After July 31, a player must clear waivers or be claimed (based on record, worst gets first choice, etc.). Once a player is claimed, depending on what type of free agent (A or B), the current team gets to decide whether to trade, release, or keep said player in what is i think a three day window.

It really gets compicated but i hope this helps.

The Saint Louis Cardinals get home runs by Albert Pujols and Matt Holiday to beat the Milwaukee Brewers seven to four. Pujols hit a solo shot in the fourth inning and Matt Holiday had the game winning three run home run in the sixth inning today. Pinero got his fourteenth win today.

(09-01-2009 10:54 PM)BARTLETTTIGER Wrote:  

(09-01-2009 01:54 PM)homefry20 Wrote:  

(09-01-2009 12:36 PM)UofMark Wrote:  How can there continue to be trades after the mid-July "Trading Deadline"? I just saw the Dodgers picked up Jim Thome from the White Sox. Look out, Dodgers are really, really loaded now, as if they weren't already.

the "trading deadline" really means the "non-waiver trading deadline"

After July 31, a player must clear waivers or be claimed (based on record, worst gets first choice, etc.). Once a player is claimed, depending on what type of free agent (A or B), the current team gets to decide whether to trade, release, or keep said player in what is i think a three day window.

It really gets compicated but i hope this helps.

The Saint Louis Cardinals get home runs by Albert Pujols and Matt Holiday to beat the Milwaukee Brewers seven to four. Pujols hit a solo shot in the fourth inning and Matt Holiday had the game winning three run home run in the sixth inning today. Pinero got his fourteenth win today.

Its the same old song and dance for the Saint Louis Cardinals over the Milwaukee Brewers. The Cards beat the Brewers ten to three yesterday with a six run innning in the second. Pujols got a 2 run ground run double, which gives Albert Pujols 113 Runs Batted In this Year.