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RE: Kansas Sen. Roberts Threatens to 'Shut Down Senate' over Gitmo
(08-05-2009 02:19 PM)wvucrazed Wrote: (08-05-2009 02:14 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: You mean, after we are bankrupt, you'll concede they were wrong.
I think the chances of that are unlikely.
How about this: when the economy recovers and gets back on its feet, you'll concede that the Obama administration has done a terrific job?
The economy will eventually recover no matter who is president. A president can only influence when that is. BTW, don't be so quick to pat Obama on the back, most all of the stimulus money has yet to be spent so his contribution to any immediate improvement in the economy is zilch.
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SumOfAllFears
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RE: Kansas Sen. Roberts Threatens to 'Shut Down Senate' over Gitmo
(08-05-2009 02:19 PM)wvucrazed Wrote: (08-05-2009 02:14 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: You mean, after we are bankrupt, you'll concede they were wrong.
I think the chances of that are unlikely.
How about this: when the economy recovers and gets back on its feet, you'll concede that the Obama administration has done a terrific job?
D@MN right, I will concede the stimulus plan worked and give Obama credit when jobs are restored and the economy is back on track.
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wvucrazed
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RE: Kansas Sen. Roberts Threatens to 'Shut Down Senate' over Gitmo
(08-05-2009 02:23 PM)smn1256 Wrote: (08-05-2009 02:19 PM)wvucrazed Wrote: (08-05-2009 02:14 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: You mean, after we are bankrupt, you'll concede they were wrong.
I think the chances of that are unlikely.
How about this: when the economy recovers and gets back on its feet, you'll concede that the Obama administration has done a terrific job?
The economy will eventually recover no matter who is president. A president can only influence when that is. BTW, don't be so quick to pat Obama on the back, most all of the stimulus money has yet to be spent so his contribution to any immediate improvement in the economy is zilch.
I agree. The President is like the QB - gets too much of the credit in a win, too much of the blame in a loss.
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RE: Kansas Sen. Roberts Threatens to 'Shut Down Senate' over Gitmo
(08-05-2009 01:52 PM)wvucrazed Wrote: (08-05-2009 01:44 PM)Tripster Wrote: This is not what McCain meant and he is not agreeing with Obama as far as moving this bastards to the Mainland .... only a Maniac would do that to his Nations Citizens.
Wait... i'm confused. Didn't you just say, a few minutes ago:
"And I don't know how many of you know that there are "TWO" different Prisons at Leavenworth - - one is the Military Prison and one is a Regular Housing Prison.
These Terrorist WILL STILL BE IN A MILITARY PRISON !!!!!!!!!
SO WTF DUH ??????????"
So.... they are going from one military prison to another, as you correctly stated. Is it your fear that the miliary prison at Leavenworth is somehow incapable of keeping these detainees locked up?
The Leavenworth Military Prison is NOT sitting on a Fanatical Marine Base that is an Island, where the Marines Eat, Sleep, and BELIEVE in HONOR & DUTY. The GITMO guys are a Special Type of Soldier, not just some Uniform Jockeys.
And that is exactly what I meant - - transferring them from one Military Brig to another Military Brig is just STUPIDO !!!!!! It is POINTLESS as hell !!!!!! It is a Wasteful and expensive Put Down to Bush is all it is.
And the way this TOTUS is spending money, this a few million we don't need added on. I know, Obamagog says this will save us $5 Trillion Dollars in 6 Months and you guys eat it up ...
And Yes, the risk of these Radical Twids having something happen in a Mainland Brig is MUCH MUCH more significant to our Safety than if they stay at GITMO.
Do YOU want them here on the Mainland ??? Do YOU ?????
I surely don't want them in a Mainland-Based Prison when we have the Perfect one at GITMO.
It is Insanity ......
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Paul M
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RE: Kansas Sen. Roberts Threatens to 'Shut Down Senate' over Gitmo
(08-05-2009 02:19 PM)wvucrazed Wrote: (08-05-2009 02:14 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: You mean, after we are bankrupt, you'll concede they were wrong.
I think the chances of that are unlikely.
How about this: when the economy recovers and gets back on its feet, you'll concede that the Obama administration has done a terrific job?
Historically, if Obama wasn't meddling, we would already be recovering. I know you believe in all the bailouts and stimulus, jeez what a misuse of a word, but Obama has failed. He has extended what we are in. When and if we come out it will be in spite of his efforts.
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Paul M
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RE: Kansas Sen. Roberts Threatens to 'Shut Down Senate' over Gitmo
And closing Gitmo sure is going to great lengths just so he can say "well, I didn't lie about that".
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RE: Kansas Sen. Roberts Threatens to 'Shut Down Senate' over Gitmo
(08-05-2009 02:25 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: (08-05-2009 02:19 PM)wvucrazed Wrote: (08-05-2009 02:14 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: You mean, after we are bankrupt, you'll concede they were wrong.
I think the chances of that are unlikely.
How about this: when the economy recovers and gets back on its feet, you'll concede that the Obama administration has done a terrific job?
D@MN right, I will concede the stimulus plan worked and give Obama credit when jobs are restored and the economy is back on track.
Obama will have outperformed my expectations if, at any point during the period 2011-2020,
a. Either unemployment or inflation is in single digits, or
b. We import less oil than we do today, or
c. Our budget deficit is smaller than the largest Shrub deficit, or
d. I an able to obtain the same quality of health care that I can today, at no more than twice the price
Those are very low expectations. I'm not optimistic that he will hit any of those targets.
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wvucrazed
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RE: Kansas Sen. Roberts Threatens to 'Shut Down Senate' over Gitmo
(08-05-2009 10:11 PM)Tripster Wrote: (08-05-2009 01:52 PM)wvucrazed Wrote: (08-05-2009 01:44 PM)Tripster Wrote: This is not what McCain meant and he is not agreeing with Obama as far as moving this bastards to the Mainland .... only a Maniac would do that to his Nations Citizens.
Wait... i'm confused. Didn't you just say, a few minutes ago:
"And I don't know how many of you know that there are "TWO" different Prisons at Leavenworth - - one is the Military Prison and one is a Regular Housing Prison.
These Terrorist WILL STILL BE IN A MILITARY PRISON !!!!!!!!!
SO WTF DUH ??????????"
So.... they are going from one military prison to another, as you correctly stated. Is it your fear that the miliary prison at Leavenworth is somehow incapable of keeping these detainees locked up?
The Leavenworth Military Prison is NOT sitting on a Fanatical Marine Base that is an Island, where the Marines Eat, Sleep, and BELIEVE in HONOR & DUTY. The GITMO guys are a Special Type of Soldier, not just some Uniform Jockeys.
I see... The American servicemen at Leavenworth Military Prison are "Uniform Jockeys." I'm sure they'd be fascinated to hear that.
(This post was last modified: 08-06-2009 07:54 AM by wvucrazed.)
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RE: Kansas Sen. Roberts Threatens to 'Shut Down Senate' over Gitmo
(08-05-2009 11:27 PM)Paul M Wrote: (08-05-2009 02:19 PM)wvucrazed Wrote: (08-05-2009 02:14 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote: You mean, after we are bankrupt, you'll concede they were wrong.
I think the chances of that are unlikely.
How about this: when the economy recovers and gets back on its feet, you'll concede that the Obama administration has done a terrific job?
Historically, if Obama wasn't meddling, we would already be recovering. I know you believe in all the bailouts and stimulus, jeez what a misuse of a word, but Obama has failed. He has extended what we are in. When and if we come out it will be in spite of his efforts.
Ah, yes, here we go. I should have figured that you'd already have your answer thought out for when the economy recovers so that you can deny Obama any of the credit.
Luckily most Americans aren't blinded by bitterness against Obama and won't see it that way.
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Paul M
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RE: Kansas Sen. Roberts Threatens to 'Shut Down Senate' over Gitmo
Just speaking truth. No need for pre-planning any canned answer.
Just for giggles, how long have past recessions lasted when there has been no massive spending from Washington?
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