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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
...because the "absolutism" frequently exists only in narrow minds and is subsequently proven fallacious.

What, no graphic picture of a 14-year old being raped, Dipper?
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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
Quote:because the "absolutism" frequently exists only in narrow minds and is subsequently proven fallacious.

Thanks! 03-2thumbsup

That's a classic example of a secular trying to explain an absolute. Since they can't deal in substance they use terms like "narrow minded" in order to show they are thinking on a higher plane, and "I" simply am not intelligent enough to grasp their mumbo jumbo.

If someone kills your wife for $25 of drug money, is it an absolute that he was wrong, or is there a gray area (he's a product of his environment, the economy drove him to unemployment and then to drugs)? I'm guessing at that point you'd say to hell with the gray area, fry his azz.

Hell, the true definition of secular progressives should be, people who make excuses for bad behavior. There are absolutes in this world, and some people should be held to them. People should be held accountable for their actions, because they might change their behavior.

Can't make your house payment. Not your fault, we got your back.

Have 5 kids out of wedlock. Not your fault, we got your back.
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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
Quote:What, no graphic picture of a 14-year old being raped, Dipper?

What's the matter bud, that picture not quite as sanitary as "planned parenthood, a womans right to chose, Roe v Wade." Yeah, that picture brings it home doesn't it................... A little too "absolute" 03-phew
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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
^ No, just didn't think you were trying very hard. Seen worse than that - one town I lived in had a similar loon who would hold up a HUGE placard of an aborted fetus at public places, including across the street from schools. So your attempt at shock value was low and outside.

Yeah, organized religions, their leaders, followers/practitioners have never been responsible for any of the ills that have beset humanity. It's all a secular problem. Speaking of ACTUALLY raping 14-year olds: see priests, Catholic.

"The world - round? The he11 you say - Heretic! Lock him up and throw away the key!"
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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
Quote:one town I lived in had a similar loon who would hold up a HUGE placard of an aborted fetus at public places, including across the street from schools. So your attempt at shock value was low and outside.

Why do you call it shock value? It's a picture of an aborted baby. If you value something so intensely (like a woman's right to choose), why would it be shocking to see the net result?

As for my opinion on abortion, I'm far from a zealot. It's the law, I live with it. I don't march, I don't stand outside clinics, but I do know that a ground up baby is a ground up baby any way you slice it (no pun intended). 03-phew
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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
So your high purpose was to edumacate us heathens? Disingenuous, Dipper, since you previously posted the same (or similar) photo, and apparently didn't get the rise you were going for then.

Glad you are all in for the rule of law. Some of your fellow "absolutists" are not so law-abiding, judging by at least one recent event.
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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
Quote:Glad you are all in for the rule of law. Some of your fellow "absolutists" are not so law-abiding, judging by at least one recent event.

Once gain you do the typical lib thing, try to act like you're the smartest guy in the room, and as always you step right in it 01-rivals

The guy who killed Tiller is not a "fellow absolutist." I'll speak slow........He's a M-U-R-D-E-R-E-R. He killed another man. Doesn't matter if that other man had killed as well. Any way you slice it it's murder.

Grinding up babies in to hamburger constitutes the killing of a human being. That's an absolute.

Killing Tiller was murder. That's an absolute.

BOTH ARE WRONG............ABSOLUTE


^ You don't have to be a wanna-bee egghead to grasp that concept.............but I'm sure you'll conjure up something 03-nerd.
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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
Better be careful, bud - you're so smart that if you keep referring to me as "the smartest guy in the room" I'm liable to start believing it!

Axually I'm jes a dum ole publik skool teecher and koach, edumatced in KPS and at WMU.

How's THAT for conjuring?!
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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
Posting thta pic was utterly appalling, Dip. Your uncontrolled zeal in advocating your positions knows no limits, apparently.

I know where you stand on Iraq, maybe we should post pics of dead civilians caught in the crossfire over there? How about the kid who got his arms blown off by a US smart bomb and both his parents killed?

You've lowered the standards of argument by posting that pic. Delete it.
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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
But, Philly - he said he's not a "zealot"! I think he "Bogarted" (sic) us with it.

It must be all our fault for forcing him to post it (again).

As for your second paragraph - if Dipper read either "Newsweek" (too "lib" for him) or "Time" he'dve already seen some evidence as you referenced. Probably never on FOX (the "alternate reality") though, where he gets most of his reinforcement from.
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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
So we pretty much agree that the pictures are ugly, grisly and gruesome............but the act isn't?

Someone please explain that to me.

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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
Gosh, it's as if this whole scene were orchestrated by two people who need the publicity. Remember, these days it's "Madonna marketing", in other words, "any publicity is good publicity".
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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
Geez, if you're not winning the argument under discussion, throw in the shock and awe pictures. But hey! Anything to throw people off track when you're desperate.
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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
And there's the gotcha statement
Quote:So we pretty much agree that the pictures are ugly, grisly and gruesome............but the act isn't?

Someone please explain that to me.

You notice when we talk abortion publicly it's spoken of as "women's health clinics, planned parent hood." Tiller's clinic was called WOMEN'S HEALTH CARE SERVICES.

A more accurate sign would be Fetal Dismemberment Clinic, Baby's R Crushed..................ya know, more absolute.
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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
Who said that the act isn't ugly and grusome? To that note, how'd this thread keep getting steered towards this topic, thought you were all bunched up over Palin's kids and Dave?
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Quote:Geez, if you're not winning the argument under discussion, throw in the shock and awe pictures.
Just illustrating ONE MORE absolute...........since someone brought up absolutes.

Quote:Geez, if you're not winning the argument under discussion
The argument being, "is it wrong to make a joke about an actual 14 year old being raped."

If I can't convince you that that is wrong, then our culture has deteriorated even more than I thought.


Quote:throw in the shock and awe pictures
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Guess you showed him.
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Charcoal!!!

Dammit. How gray???

The answer is charcoal!!!

I set you guys up to hit it out of the ballpark, and what do I get?
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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
It's like when we talk about the Iraq War and you call it preempting WMD and defending America, Dip.

You spin it every bit as much as the other side. Spinmeisters on either side disgust me.

If it requires spin, you arguing the wrong side.
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RE: "Palin a slut, 14 year daughter a whore" MSNBC defends that..........
Quote:If it requires spin, you arguing the wrong side.

A 62 year old making a joke about raping a 14 year old requires no spinning Phil. It's wrong, plain and simple.

The only spin I see here is a bunch of apologists for Dave Letterman trying to say it's okay because the 14 year old happened to be Palin's kid. That is pure unadulterated horse$hit Phil. It doesn't matter if it's Palin's kid, Obama's kid, my kid, or O.J.'s kid, you don't make low ball filthy jokes about 14 year old girls.

Fact is, you all grasp that it's wrong, you're simply not willing to separate your political lean from your values.
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