(05-22-2009 01:28 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Trippy, YOU are a train wreck. Get a life and get over the fact that Obama WON and the Republicans lost.

Robs, it's you Ultra-Lib's who are the "Sour and Sore Winners" in all this.

I have never seen Liberals win it all like the Super Jackpot Lotto you guys now have and you are so stupid until you can't do anything with it but Waste Money like it grows on trees and Blame Bush and his Administration for every single thing on Earth.

And you hypocrites are even trying to PUT SOME OF THE Bush PEOPLE IN JAIL, when 75% of the Obamagog Cabinet and Employees are Proven Tax Evading Criminals AND WORSE and now are even being called out on "APPROVING the USE OF WHAT Little-Hister is Calling TORTURE. (hint: the same thing you guys are wanting to Jail the Bush guys for)

You Lib's are so blatantly openly angry, brain-farted delusional, and so morally uberly-screwed up, until you can't find your asses for the holes in the ground ....

Your ilk has so turned a Free Market Society into such a True Socialistic State, that We are basically so far down the tubes, We are now a Communist Country by European Standards and Definition of what a Communist Nation is.

You brain-dead Wonks and Ideologues, have managed to make us weaker in the eyes of our Sworn Enemies than they thought us to be before "11 September '01", you guys have managed to make sure that my Great Great Great Grandchildren will be paying off the Obamagog Debt at tax rates that will be unsustainable even if there are any jobs to earn from, AND YOU WERE ABLE TO WRECK IT ALL IN A RECORD 100 DAYS !!!!!! And you Screwed Us All over and Took Us All Down without ever Locking & Loading a Single Weapon with a Live Round.

I guess Obamagog went to the Momar Kadafi Muslim School of "How to Overthrow Them Without Firing a Single Shot". I mean Libya is just North of Kenya after all.

And with all this, YOU call Me a "Train Wreck" .... (I love it)

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(05-22-2009 03:36 PM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(05-22-2009 09:37 AM)GGniner Wrote:  the rise of Liberal(classically) economics has lifted 100's of Millions out of Poverty around the world.

That bubble is about to burst.

"bubble"? Free market economics is a bubble? And you dare to call me a liberal?

(05-22-2009 08:26 AM)GGniner Wrote:  Owl, watch this Drew Carey video...it'll make you feel a little better

http://reason.tv/video/show/61.html

There is ONE MAJOR Question I never heard anyone ask these "Very Well Amenitied Middle Class Boat, Car, Motorcycle, Jet Ski, Large Home Owners .....

And that QUESTION IS ............

How Deeply in Debt for all this Junk are you in for ?????

Wealth has nothing to do with Material Possessions if you are Mortgaged out tha gazoo for all your "Stuff" and I will bet you 95% of the people interviewed that had these Regular Old Joe Worker jobs, are so over burdened with debt on all their goodies that they are hurting like a big dog paying for it all every month.

I know the Cop did not pay cash for that boat and the Gardener did not pay cash for the $50 Thousand Dollar Boat and the $60 Thousand Dollar Hummer to tow the boat with.

I understand Drew's idea for the Video and applaud him for trying to quell the Financial Fears that loom over us all at present and that this message was to counter claims that the Middle Class is going under, but why did no one delve into HOW MUCH DEBT these people were into and for how long they had to burden with that DEBT ???

I am just glad I own my own home and owe ZERO on it .... at least I will have a roof over my head when Gas and Electricity can no longer be afforded.

But then I am most sure that Obamagog will find a way to Tax me on my Home because it is unfair that I don't have a Mortgage stuck to it and others do.

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(05-22-2009 03:58 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(05-20-2009 10:17 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  I think the hype of the unrealistic expectations of Obama being president will make things worse because instead of people working to get out of their ruts they're waiting for Obama to do it for them.

I don't think things would be one bit different if JM had won. He most likely would be following the same foolish path. I astounds me just how blind the right has been to its own incompetence. It the same old story...the losers always become the ***** and moaners.

The marketplace will be the one to finally pull us out of this...not some power hungry politicians.

Agreed. I just hope the politicians stop subverting the market--or are forced to--before all is not lost. Not optimistic about that.

(05-22-2009 06:25 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-22-2009 03:58 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(05-20-2009 10:17 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  I think the hype of the unrealistic expectations of Obama being president will make things worse because instead of people working to get out of their ruts they're waiting for Obama to do it for them.

I don't think things would be one bit different if JM had won. He most likely would be following the same foolish path. I astounds me just how blind the right has been to its own incompetence. It the same old story...the losers always become the ***** and moaners.

The marketplace will be the one to finally pull us out of this...not some power hungry politicians.

Agreed. I just hope the politicians stop subverting the market--or are forced to--before all is not lost. Not optimistic about that.

Im in a business that is directly effected by the housing market....We see no movement this year. We look for the end of the first quarter of next year for a start in the turn around in housing.

(05-22-2009 09:37 AM)GGniner Wrote:  thing is most of the world was alot worse off 30 years ago than it is today, the rise of Liberal(classically) economics has lifted 100's of Millions out of Poverty around the world.

it is troublesome we are moving in the other direction at the moment, hopefully its short lived.

It's funny, but this rise over the last 15 years gave me a great deal of optimism just a couple of years ago. With the current economic trouble here and our dramatic turn away from liberal economics, the same trend gives me a great deal of fear for the future of our nation.

SOOOOO let's make money off of it. Let's put together a reinflation trade scenario. I bought Conoco Phillips and Mosaic and Potash this week. If we are all so positive that inflation is going to go through the roof. Let's profit from it. I want ideas and I want them now. BTW I do have a Little Gentleman Jack in the system. Evrything is good. I with Fo that there wopuld be absolutely no difference if JM would of won with the exception we would still be waterboarding muslims. I'm going to start another thread on that. Let's stick to making money on this one.

(05-22-2009 06:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  SOOOOO let's make money off of it. Let's put together a reinflation trade scenario. I bought Conoco Phillips and Mosaic and Potash this week. If we are all so positive that inflation is going to go through the roof. Let's profit from it. I want ideas and I want them now. BTW I do have a Little Gentleman Jack in the system. Evrything is good. I with Fo that there wopuld be absolutely no difference if JM would of won with the exception we would still be waterboarding muslims. I'm going to start another thread on that. Let's stick to making money on this one.

Damn Mach....I got Vodka and tonics....You might need to leave the Jack alone.

Sorry man....All my investments are in long term index funds. I don't have the time or acumen to trade....I do though have patience and have steadily bought as usual. I'm a firm believer in dollar cost averaging.

(05-22-2009 06:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I with Fo that there wopuld be absolutely no difference if JM would of won with the exception we would still be waterboarding muslims. I'm going to start another thread on that.

I hope some sleep intervenes, but seriously - it's unfair to say that McCain would've permitted waterboarding. He was one of the loudest voices early and often objecting to "enhanced interrogation". I don't have much confidence that he'd know what he's doing in any other aspect of governing the country, but right or wrong, I'm certain that he would've ended that within days of assuming office.

(05-22-2009 04:39 PM)Tripster Wrote:  

(05-22-2009 01:28 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Trippy, YOU are a train wreck. Get a life and get over the fact that Obama WON and the Republicans lost.

Robs, it's you Ultra-Lib's who are the "Sour and Sore Winners" in all this.

I have never seen Liberals win it all like the Super Jackpot Lotto you guys now have and you are so stupid until you can't do anything with it but Waste Money like it grows on trees and Blame Bush and his Administration for every single thing on Earth.

And you hypocrites are even trying to PUT SOME OF THE Bush PEOPLE IN JAIL, when 75% of the Obamagog Cabinet and Employees are Proven Tax Evading Criminals AND WORSE and now are even being called out on "APPROVING the USE OF WHAT Little-Hister is Calling TORTURE. (hint: the same thing you guys are wanting to Jail the Bush guys for)

You Lib's are so blatantly openly angry, brain-farted delusional, and so morally uberly-screwed up, until you can't find your asses for the holes in the ground ....

Your ilk has so turned a Free Market Society into such a True Socialistic State, that We are basically so far down the tubes, We are now a Communist Country by European Standards and Definition of what a Communist Nation is.

You brain-dead Wonks and Ideologues, have managed to make us weaker in the eyes of our Sworn Enemies than they thought us to be before "11 September '01", you guys have managed to make sure that my Great Great Great Grandchildren will be paying off the Obamagog Debt at tax rates that will be unsustainable even if there are any jobs to earn from, AND YOU WERE ABLE TO WRECK IT ALL IN A RECORD 100 DAYS !!!!!! And you Screwed Us All over and Took Us All Down without ever Locking & Loading a Single Weapon with a Live Round.

I guess Obamagog went to the Momar Kadafi Muslim School of "How to Overthrow Them Without Firing a Single Shot". I mean Libya is just North of Kenya after all.

And with all this, YOU call Me a "Train Wreck" .... (I love it)

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Wow. That is about all I can say about that response. What it looks like is a transcript from Faux News.

McCain would've been bad but he wouldn't have allowed a 1.8 Trillion Deficit his first year, and paid off every left wing interest group in the midst of this mess.

he also wouldn't have bowed to the Saudis, insulted the British and on and on.

He would've paid off every right wing interest group though.

Paying off Right Wing Interest groups doesn't count. Everyone knows that Nomad.

McC wasn't my cup of tea but I believe the man to be morally just and highly ethical. He certainly wouldn't gone on a spending spree that closely rivaled my wife.

No matter who the man is...he's gonna have to grease the palms of those who got him there. Now I'm not going to claim that I know a great deal about this, but there are groups that invest in you winning so they can get their returns afterwards.

(05-21-2009 01:33 PM)GGniner Wrote:  one difference, Carter always came across as a do-gooder Douche bag. He never would've beat Ford if the nation wasn't pissed at Ford for pardoning Nixon, and in general pissed at Republicans at the time.

Obama is in sync with the culture and like Clinton can come off as 'cool' so to speak. Which makes him more dangerous.

Yet, look at the Vote in California the other day. Every single county in California voted against the Liberals on all the Props. A majority of the nation is now "Pro-Life" and of course the Tea Parties.

What planet do you actually live on? Is there a planet Faux?

(05-23-2009 11:54 AM)RobertN Wrote:  

(05-21-2009 01:33 PM)GGniner Wrote:  one difference, Carter always came across as a do-gooder Douche bag. He never would've beat Ford if the nation wasn't pissed at Ford for pardoning Nixon, and in general pissed at Republicans at the time.

Obama is in sync with the culture and like Clinton can come off as 'cool' so to speak. Which makes him more dangerous.

Yet, look at the Vote in California the other day. Every single county in California voted against the Liberals on all the Props. A majority of the nation is now "Pro-Life" and of course the Tea Parties.

What planet do you actually live on? Is there a planet Faux?

Bug, don't you follow the news? California voted down a bunch of tax raising measures last Tuesday. I'm sure you've heard that as California goes the nation goes. Some day you might pay less taxes but it will force you off of Welfare.

(05-23-2009 12:02 AM)I45owl Wrote:  

(05-22-2009 06:48 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I with Fo that there wopuld be absolutely no difference if JM would of won with the exception we would still be waterboarding muslims. I'm going to start another thread on that.

I hope some sleep intervenes, but seriously - it's unfair to say that McCain would've permitted waterboarding. He was one of the loudest voices early and often objecting to "enhanced interrogation". I don't have much confidence that he'd know what he's doing in any other aspect of governing the country, but right or wrong, I'm certain that he would've ended that within days of assuming office.

Yes..I agree on that point. I was mostly talking about the financial crisis.

(05-23-2009 10:50 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  McC wasn't my cup of tea but I believe the man to be morally just and highly ethical. He certainly wouldn't gone on a spending spree that closely rivaled my wife.

I would not take bets on that. Maybe less...but...still bad.

(05-23-2009 10:56 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  No matter who the man is...he's gonna have to grease the palms of those who got him there. Now I'm not going to claim that I know a great deal about this, but there are groups that invest in you winning so they can get their returns afterwards.

+1...Politics is about rewarding your friends and punishing your enemies. Those in search of power always do this. It occurs in the free market also...but...you have an option of not supporting those that operate in this fashion...Of course you have no ability to withdraw your support of these politicians...unless you like to hurt.