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Obama international treaty to ban reloading activity called 'Illicit Manufacturing"
What part of "shall not be infringed" does this usurper in chief not understand.


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Are you licensed to reload that ammo?
Alarm raised over treaty provision to ban activity


Posted: April 21, 2009 10:00 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
2009 WorldNetDaily

President Obama, who supported the handgun ban in Washington, D.C., before it was tossed by the Supreme Court, since his election has watched various proposals to ban "assault" weapons, require handgun owners to submit to mental health evaluations and sparked a rush on ammunition purchases that caused some retailers to name him their salesman of the year. Now he apparently is going after citzens who reload their ammunition.

It was during an official visit earlier this month to Mexico that he affirmed his support for a proposed international treaty that addresses "firearms trafficking."

According to a blogger who follows the issue, the treaty was adopted by President Clinton years ago but never ratified by the U.S. Senate, a goal Obama now has adopted.

The answer is finally here to the real reason why guns and church must mix!

The writer, B.A. Lawson, says, "If you reload your own ammo you may find yourself engaged in 'Illicit Manufacturing' of ammunition under an arms control treaty that President Obama started pushing last week in Mexico."

"Virtually everyone who supports the 2nd Amendment or has an interest in firearms has heard the numerous recent reports of ammunition shortages. The shortages have extended to reloading supplies that many folks rely on to keep their shooting costs down or to assemble exotic or hard to find ammunition. Many shooters have considered reloading their own ammo as insurance against limited supplies should legislation be enacted that would make ammo more scarce or dramatically more expensive," the blogger continued.
"Those thoughts may be in vain if the current administration is successful in getting the 'INTER-AMERICAN CONVENTION AGAINST THE ILLICIT MANUFACTURING OF AND TRAFFICKING IN FIREARMS, AMMUNITION, EXPLOSIVES, AND OTHER RELATED MATERIALS' treaty passed."

The treaty defines "illicit manufacturing" as "the manufacture or assembly of firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials."

It then gives authority for that activity only with "a license from a competent governmental authority of the State Party where the manufacture or assembly takes place."

"The section … clearly identifies ammo reloaders that are not licensed by the government as 'Illicit Manufacturers' of ammunition. Now that we have reloaders properly labeled, lets move down to Article IV to see what we should do with them," the commentary said.

He then quotes Article IV, which states, "State Parties that have not yet done so shall adopt the necessary legislative or other measures to establish as criminal offenses under their domestic law the illicit manufacturing of and trafficking in firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials."

"This is pretty straightforward. If you reload ammunition without a license after the treaty is signed you will be a criminal," Lawson wrote.
The National Rifle Association said the treaty "does include language suggesting that it is not intended to restrict 'lawful ownership and use' of firearms. Despite those words, the NRA knows that anti-gun advocates will still try to use this treaty to attack gun ownership in the U.S."

The treaty is available online @ the Dept. Of International Law.

http://www.oas.org/juridico/English/treaties/a-63.html

At the SnowflakesinHell blog, the writer said there's no mistaking the language.

Even accessories "which can be attached to a firearm" are targeted.
"It would presumably also ban home manufacture of these items without a government license. Do you own trigger jobs? Reload your own ammunition? Not any more, not without a government license!"
The Examiner.com said such international gun restrictions are unacceptable.

John Velleco, director of federal affairs for Gun Owners of America, notes the benefits for Obama of having such rules in treaties, not legislation.

"If ratified and the U.S. is found not to be in compliance with any provisions of the treaty – such as a provision that would outlaw reloading ammunition without a government license – President Obama would be empowered to implement regulations without congressional approval," he wrote.

ObamNazi at work

"If the kind of 'change' that Obama wants is for the United States to take its marching orders READ - Goose Steppingfrom third world countries regarding our gun rights, we're in big trouble!"
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When he starts forcing compliance with his ways, he doesn't want anyone to be able to fight back.
04-22-2009 11:25 AM
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Obama is trying to take away anything that defines a conservative as a conservative. This is another example of Obama setting this country up for disaster.
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(04-22-2009 10:58 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  What part of "shall not be infringed" does this usurper in chief not understand.


WEAPONS OF CHOICE
Are you licensed to reload that ammo?
Alarm raised over treaty provision to ban activity


Posted: April 21, 2009 10:00 pm Eastern

By Bob Unruh
2009 WorldNetDaily

President Obama, who supported the handgun ban in Washington, D.C., before it was tossed by the Supreme Court, since his election has watched various proposals to ban "assault" weapons, require handgun owners to submit to mental health evaluations and sparked a rush on ammunition purchases that caused some retailers to name him their salesman of the year. Now he apparently is going after citzens who reload their ammunition.

It was during an official visit earlier this month to Mexico that he affirmed his support for a proposed international treaty that addresses "firearms trafficking."

According to a blogger who follows the issue, the treaty was adopted by President Clinton years ago but never ratified by the U.S. Senate, a goal Obama now has adopted.

The answer is finally here to the real reason why guns and church must mix!

The writer, B.A. Lawson, says, "If you reload your own ammo you may find yourself engaged in 'Illicit Manufacturing' of ammunition under an arms control treaty that President Obama started pushing last week in Mexico."

"Virtually everyone who supports the 2nd Amendment or has an interest in firearms has heard the numerous recent reports of ammunition shortages. The shortages have extended to reloading supplies that many folks rely on to keep their shooting costs down or to assemble exotic or hard to find ammunition. Many shooters have considered reloading their own ammo as insurance against limited supplies should legislation be enacted that would make ammo more scarce or dramatically more expensive," the blogger continued.
"Those thoughts may be in vain if the current administration is successful in getting the 'INTER-AMERICAN CONVENTION AGAINST THE ILLICIT MANUFACTURING OF AND TRAFFICKING IN FIREARMS, AMMUNITION, EXPLOSIVES, AND OTHER RELATED MATERIALS' treaty passed."

The treaty defines "illicit manufacturing" as "the manufacture or assembly of firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials."

It then gives authority for that activity only with "a license from a competent governmental authority of the State Party where the manufacture or assembly takes place."

"The section … clearly identifies ammo reloaders that are not licensed by the government as 'Illicit Manufacturers' of ammunition. Now that we have reloaders properly labeled, lets move down to Article IV to see what we should do with them," the commentary said.

He then quotes Article IV, which states, "State Parties that have not yet done so shall adopt the necessary legislative or other measures to establish as criminal offenses under their domestic law the illicit manufacturing of and trafficking in firearms, ammunition, explosives, and other related materials."

"This is pretty straightforward. If you reload ammunition without a license after the treaty is signed you will be a criminal," Lawson wrote.
The National Rifle Association said the treaty "does include language suggesting that it is not intended to restrict 'lawful ownership and use' of firearms. Despite those words, the NRA knows that anti-gun advocates will still try to use this treaty to attack gun ownership in the U.S."

The treaty is available online @ the Dept. Of International Law.

http://www.oas.org/juridico/English/treaties/a-63.html

At the SnowflakesinHell blog, the writer said there's no mistaking the language.

Even accessories "which can be attached to a firearm" are targeted.
"It would presumably also ban home manufacture of these items without a government license. Do you own trigger jobs? Reload your own ammunition? Not any more, not without a government license!"
The Examiner.com said such international gun restrictions are unacceptable.

John Velleco, director of federal affairs for Gun Owners of America, notes the benefits for Obama of having such rules in treaties, not legislation.

"If ratified and the U.S. is found not to be in compliance with any provisions of the treaty – such as a provision that would outlaw reloading ammunition without a government license – President Obama would be empowered to implement regulations without congressional approval," he wrote.

ObamNazi at work

"If the kind of 'change' that Obama wants is for the United States to take its marching orders READ - Goose Steppingfrom third world countries regarding our gun rights, we're in big trouble!"
Hell...Don't blame just Obama!!!03-lmfao

This is just a continuation of a long running governmental policy to rid Americans of firearms. There were over 2000 gun laws on the books...BEFORE...Obama took office, so we should not be surprised by this. The thugs in power know that the the "final" barrier to total control of the masses lies in their ability to defend themselves. They own our property,They own our money,They own our labor...They are working hard to complete our destiny as slaves by eliminating our ability to stage armed uprisings against them. History is repeating itself....Wake up!03-banghead

Let's stop pointing fingers at the particular gangster in power and start understanding that they ALL are gangsters and they seek to totally control your life and make you a "Happy and contented" SLAVE.05-stirthepot
04-22-2009 09:06 PM
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Well Fo, you know that in NC there is legislation that passed that has repealed our transfer permit laws as far as pistols and crossbows. You will no longer need a permit to sell, buy, or give a weapon away. Good ole NC. Has Cali done the same thing.
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My email box has been going bazonk with all the NRA input on this.

Obama has picked on the wrong lobby.

This Treaty will never make it through the Senate.
04-22-2009 09:46 PM
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Why is this President begging for a Full Blown Civil War ????

Can any of you find any other President in the entire history of the United States that is kicking the foundation out from under the Country and Slapping the Face of every Military Veteran and Law Abiding Citizen he can.

Hell, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter Orgasmically LOVED the Military compared to this boob.

It is almost like he is WANTING an Uprising and a Civil War so he can Socialize the Military in such a way as to Activate them onto the Streets of the United States and put us into a Permanent Police State and keep himself in power for Years.

If he is stupid enough to take us into this arena, it is going to be so ugly bloody that even the Buzzards will puke from the gore.

What is this Presidents Major Malfunction ???

I mean I know he is Retarded and Stupid, but to act Pure Brain Dead is a bit off the scales.

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(04-23-2009 12:16 PM)Tripster Wrote:  .

Why is this President begging for a Full Blown Civil War ????

Can any of you find any other President in the entire history of the United States that is kicking the foundation out from under the Country and Slapping the Face of every Military Veteran and Law Abiding Citizen he can.

Hell, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter Orgasmically LOVED the Military compared to this boob.

It is almost like he is WANTING an Uprising and a Civil War so he can Socialize the Military in such a way as to Activate them onto the Streets of the United States and put us into a Permanent Police State and keep himself in power for Years.

If he is stupid enough to take us into this arena, it is going to be so ugly bloody that even the Buzzards will puke from the gore.

Who can tell. I know a lot of conservatives who just shrug this stuff off. I don't get it either, but there are plenty of people out there who still think we should all just, "be nice."
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he does like to think of himself as Lincoln...
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