(04-18-2009 02:33 PM)RobertN Wrote:  Oddly enough, most of you aren't either.

As far as covering up statues etc, if it is a Catholic school, that is wrong. If it is a non-religous school, I would have no problems with it(but it would have to be ALL religous symbols of all religions) because he is trying to show separation of church and state as President.

You truly ARE the quintessential unabashed village idiot aren't you ???

I will have to swear you were hatched and the egg was dropped many times before you emerged extremely scathed about the head and shoulders.

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(04-18-2009 02:51 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-18-2009 02:33 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-17-2009 05:49 PM)GGniner Wrote:  If he's influenced by the elites he ran with in political and academia circles he's an atheist

if he's influenced by the Nation of Islam and Rev. Wright, and his relatives in Keyna and his early upbringing he's a Muslim

what he is not, is a Christian

Oddly enough, most of you aren't either.

I'm not. Differance is I don't lie about it.

(04-18-2009 02:33 PM)RobertN Wrote:  As far as covering up statues etc, if it is a Catholic school, that is wrong. If it is a non-religous school, I would have no problems with it(but it would have to be ALL religous symbols of all religions) because he is trying to show separation of church and state as President.

He's not trying to show separation, kumquat. That doesn't have squat to do with this.

You are right, those that wear tin foil hats believe it is because he is a Muslim. To the rest of us SANE people, it is to try to show separation of church and state. Btw, can you guys on the right find anymore relatively meaningless things to ***** about?

(04-18-2009 03:54 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-18-2009 02:51 PM)Paul M Wrote:  

(04-18-2009 02:33 PM)RobertN Wrote:  

(04-17-2009 05:49 PM)GGniner Wrote:  If he's influenced by the elites he ran with in political and academia circles he's an atheist

if he's influenced by the Nation of Islam and Rev. Wright, and his relatives in Keyna and his early upbringing he's a Muslim

what he is not, is a Christian

Oddly enough, most of you aren't either.

I'm not. Differance is I don't lie about it.

(04-18-2009 02:33 PM)RobertN Wrote:  As far as covering up statues etc, if it is a Catholic school, that is wrong. If it is a non-religous school, I would have no problems with it(but it would have to be ALL religous symbols of all religions) because he is trying to show separation of church and state as President.

He's not trying to show separation, kumquat. That doesn't have squat to do with this.

You are right, those that wear tin foil hats believe it is because he is a Muslim. To the rest of us SANE people, it is to try to show separation of church and state. Btw, can you guys on the right find anymore relatively meaningless things to ***** about?

Pastor of the World's largest Evangelical Church not only believes he's a Christian but thinks he's GREAT!

Joel Osteen is the senior pastor for the Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. It's America's largest congregation. His wife, Victoria Osteen, is the co-pastor there.


Joel and Victoria Osteen appear on "Larry King Live" Tuesday night.

The Osteens, known for their optimistic outlook on life, visited "Larry King Live" Tuesday night for a wide-ranging interview that covered President Obama, same-sex marriage, the recent outbreak of mass shootings, the state of religion in America and more.

The following interview has been edited for brevity and clarity:

Larry King: Since you were last on, we have sworn in our first African-American president. What are your impressions [of Barack Obama]?

Joel Osteen: Well, I think he's doing a great job. I'm impressed with his skill, his calmness, his just strength under pressure. These are tough times for him.

King: And you, Victoria?

Victoria Osteen: I've been really impressed. In fact, I've been impressed [with] the first lady. She stepped up, and she's done a remarkable job.

King: Recent polls show 12 percent of Americans still believe Obama is a Muslim, and 35 percent say they don't know his religion, but to most of them it don't matter. Should it matter?

Joel Osteen: Well, it matters to me. It matters to me that I know he loves the Lord, and I think it's important that he has convictions from his faith. So to me, it matters when I'm making my personal decisions.

King: Does it matter to you, Victoria?

Victoria Osteen: It does. It matters to me. ... I believe he is a Christian.



December 9, 2008
Joel Osteen weighs in on Obama
Posted: 08:32 AM ET

From CNN Political Producer Kristi Keck


Osteen says he thinks Obama is 'great.'
(CNN) — Mega-preacher and best-selling author Joel Osteen is putting his faith in Barack Obama.

Asked his thoughts on the president-elect, Osteen said, “I think he’s great.”

“I think he's going to be a great president. He seems brilliant to me and just, I believe God puts the right people in office, so we're praying for him and just believing that God will give him wisdom and strength,” Osteen said on CNN’s “Larry King Live.”

Osteen is the senior pastor for Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. The church is one of the largest and fastest growing in the United States.

Shortly before the presidential election, Osteen told CNN he doesn’t think it is right to preach politics from the pulpit.

“You know, people have different views, and they're just as passionate. They love God just as much. And so, I would just encourage … just get out there and vote. But we don't feel like it's our place to tell people how to vote. Just search their own heart,” he said.

Filed under: Joel Osteen


He also preached at Rick Warren's Saddleback Baptist Church in CA one of the largest SBC congregations in the nation. Rick Warren wouldn't a "nonChristian" share his pulpit and address his congregation.

All Obama has to do is keep peeling away moderate Evangelicals and the Repubs has no chance of winning national elections.

The Osteens are entitled to their opinions the same as everyone else.

(04-18-2009 04:08 PM)onlinepole Wrote:  King: And you, Victoria?

Victoria Osteen: I've been really impressed. In fact, I've been impressed [with] the first lady. She stepped up, and she's done a remarkable job.

OK Victoria and I am not Flight Attendant, WHAT HAS THE 1st LADY DONE ????? Pardoned you from whipping a Flight Attendant's booty in Mid-Air ???

In fact other than Apologize and Super Bankrupt our Nation along with labeling all "Military Veteran Conservatives" as "Extremist Right Wing Terrorist" and adding Hugo Chavez and Daniel Ortega to the FOB (Friends of Barry) Listing along with REAL Terrorist William "I am Guilty and Free Thank God for America" Ayers, WTF has this guy done Joel ?????

I happen to like Joel Osteen and I am wondering WTF he is thinking on this one ????

I can't believe Osteen is purporting the Greatness of Barack Hussein Obama and this simply tells me that:

"In those days, if they were not shortened, even the Elect Would Be Fooled".

Seems we have some Fooling Going On ....

I guess when you have a Church larger than the New Orleans Super Dome, you have the Benefit of Direct Divine Insight into Christian things the Lesser of us Unwashed just don't get Straight From the Mouth of God.

Must be nice to have your very own "Burning Bush" in your Cathedral ...

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The Prosperity Gospel and the Social Gospel...2 dangerous lies that lead not to where those following it believe.

(04-18-2009 04:08 PM)onlinepole Wrote:  Pastor of the World's largest Evangelical Church not only believes he's a Christian but thinks he's GREAT!

Joel Osteen is the senior pastor for the Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. It's America's largest congregation. His wife, Victoria Osteen, is the co-pastor there.


Joel and Victoria Osteen appear on "Larry King Live" Tuesday night.

The Osteens, known for their optimistic outlook on life, visited "Larry King Live" Tuesday night for a wide-ranging interview that covered President Obama, same-sex marriage, the recent outbreak of mass shootings, the state of religion in America and more.

The following interview has been edited for brevity and clarity:

Larry King: Since you were last on, we have sworn in our first African-American president. What are your impressions [of Barack Obama]?

Joel Osteen: Well, I think he's doing a great job. I'm impressed with his skill, his calmness, his just strength under pressure. These are tough times for him.

King: And you, Victoria?

Victoria Osteen: I've been really impressed. In fact, I've been impressed [with] the first lady. She stepped up, and she's done a remarkable job.

King: Recent polls show 12 percent of Americans still believe Obama is a Muslim, and 35 percent say they don't know his religion, but to most of them it don't matter. Should it matter?

Joel Osteen: Well, it matters to me. It matters to me that I know he loves the Lord, and I think it's important that he has convictions from his faith. So to me, it matters when I'm making my personal decisions.

King: Does it matter to you, Victoria?

Victoria Osteen: It does. It matters to me. ... I believe he is a Christian.



December 9, 2008
Joel Osteen weighs in on Obama
Posted: 08:32 AM ET

From CNN Political Producer Kristi Keck


Osteen says he thinks Obama is 'great.'
(CNN) — Mega-preacher and best-selling author Joel Osteen is putting his faith in Barack Obama.

Asked his thoughts on the president-elect, Osteen said, “I think he’s great.”

“I think he's going to be a great president. He seems brilliant to me and just, I believe God puts the right people in office, so we're praying for him and just believing that God will give him wisdom and strength,” Osteen said on CNN’s “Larry King Live.”

Osteen is the senior pastor for Lakewood Church in Houston, Texas. The church is one of the largest and fastest growing in the United States.

Shortly before the presidential election, Osteen told CNN he doesn’t think it is right to preach politics from the pulpit.

“You know, people have different views, and they're just as passionate. They love God just as much. And so, I would just encourage … just get out there and vote. But we don't feel like it's our place to tell people how to vote. Just search their own heart,” he said.

Filed under: Joel Osteen


He also preached at Rick Warren's Saddleback Baptist Church in CA one of the largest SBC congregations in the nation. Rick Warren wouldn't a "nonChristian" share his pulpit and address his congregation.

All Obama has to do is keep peeling away moderate Evangelicals and the Repubs has no chance of winning national elections.

I wouldn't exactly call Joel Osteen an evangelical, a charismatic maybe, but not an evangelical.

As for Rick Warren he is very loosely affiliated with the SBC and unlike many denominations the SBC has almost NO governing authority over what individual churches do.

Neither Osteen nor Warren are evangelicals.

(04-20-2009 05:50 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Neither Osteen nor Warren are evangelicals.

I agree, and something that has not been mentioned on this board, Rick Warren has likely decided to leave the SBC based on recent comments on Larry King. Mr. Warren has come out in support of Gay Marriage a move that will likely mean he will either have to change that position or leave the SBC.