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RE: Has anybody noticed what a pack of cigarettes cost now a days
That sugar cane can make good rum too. It might not seem relevant but rum is a biiiig seller.
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(03-18-2009 09:38 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(03-18-2009 09:16 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I sincerely hope that we can talk relations out with Cuba. It's 90 miles away and we aren't even allowed to go there.

Coming from Nassau back to Miami, you clear customs outbound Nassau. When I went through the line, the customs agent asked me, "You aren't bringing back any of those Cuban cigars, are you?" I wasn't, and told him so, but I couldn't help but wonder, "What's wrong with this picture?"

In Mexico they give you Partagas bands to put on the Cuban cigars to get them past Customs.
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(03-18-2009 08:10 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Restricting a public health hazard is unconstitutional?

Oh, someone's private establishment is a public hazard? Do you have people that visit your home? Have workers that come to your home to hook up the cable, repair a plumbing problem, etc.? Well maybe we should get the government to come and inspect, and tell you what you can and cannot do because what goes on in your private establishment could cause a "public" hazard.

Here's the deal, you don't want to go to a bar because of smoking? Find some f'n place else. If you don't like it, pour your own money into a business and start your own non-smoking establishment.
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RE: Has anybody noticed what a pack of cigarettes cost now a days
niuuskie84... by placing those restrictions how many jobs have been killed? How many businesses have gone out of business? I know in Montgomery County, Ohio (Dayton area) the smoking restriction has put out a bunch of bars, not to mention cut the number of bartenders needed in the bars that are open. I enjoy not smelling like smoke when I walk out, but I would rather smell like smoke then have people out of jobs or businesses closed down.
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RE: Has anybody noticed what a pack of cigarettes cost now a days
Who cares what a pack of cigarettes cost? Quit Fu(king Smoking Cigarettes. Thats the message. Get rid of that dirty nasty habit. oops, sorry, thats what I tell my adult children, and they are all now cigarette free, for the time being. A nice cigar once in a while is OK.

Let the death nail cigarettes become our number 1 export.
03-19-2009 09:39 AM
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(03-19-2009 09:39 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  Who cares what a pack of cigarettes cost? Quit Fu(king Smoking Cigarettes. Thats the message. Get rid of that dirty nasty habit. oops, sorry, thats what I tell my adult children, and they are all now cigarette free, for the time being. A nice cigar once in a while is OK.

Let the death nail cigarettes become our number 1 export.

I'm sure I could find something that you do that I don't approve of either.

Oh, wait, for a second there I thought we were still in the land of the free.
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It's foolish to smoke, it has nothing to do with freedom. It's foolish to drink excessively, also. I am against all food, sin, income, property and sales taxes, ect. The only way left for the people to keep Government in check is to limit the income government has.
03-19-2009 10:12 AM
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(03-18-2009 09:04 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
(03-18-2009 08:53 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(03-18-2009 08:10 PM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  Restricting a public health hazard is unconstitutional?

Cars are health hazards, so are fast food and and faster women.

Well, there are rules about how you can/can't operate a motor vehicle, and there are emission standards as well.

Food is certainly regulated...although thats questionable with some of McDonalds output. The difference is if someone chooses to down 3 double quarter pounders with cheese a day, it dosent really affect me one way or another (outside of a heavier burden on the health system). However, when Im sitting at a bar (destroying my OWN liver) and someone decides to light up..everyone in that room is directly affected, whether they want to be or not. One person's rights end where anothers begin.
I guess my point is...its really not a big deal to go outside for a couple minutes when you need to smoke.

I know what you mean and I think you know what I mean. But your statement "One person's rights end where anothers begin" is something I could not agree more with. My mom used to tell me that as a kid.
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(03-19-2009 10:12 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  It's foolish to smoke, it has nothing to do with freedom. It's foolish to drink excessively, also. I am against all food, sin, income, property and sales taxes, ect. The only way left for the people to keep Government in check is to limit the income government has.

It is also dangerous to drive on the highway. It is dangerous to drive at night. Dangerous to ride your bicycle on the road...

Sorry, if we worry about protecting everyone from anything that could be deemed bad for them then we can't do a damn thing.

On a side note, less than 20% of the population currently smokes and it continues to drop. I think it is time to stop harping on the smokers and worry about something that truly is dangerous to the rest of us...
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(03-19-2009 10:33 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  I know what you mean and I think you know what I mean. But your statement "One person's rights end where anothers begin" is something I could not agree more with. My mom used to tell me that as a kid.

Your right to be from smoke ends when you enter my private establishment.
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RE: Has anybody noticed what a pack of cigarettes cost now a days
I agree with you Reb. Even though I don't smoke tobacco (except for the occasional cigar), it is not my right to go up and down the streets demanding that people take the cigs out of their mouths. That is what the government is trying to do to us by drawing down on where people can actually smoke. If it gets that far, where does it end?
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RE: Has anybody noticed what a pack of cigarettes cost now a days
this leads back to Public Health debate

If this is unconstitutional, than so would Restaurant inspections I suppose.

there's a pretty cool story where a Bar owner in the United kingdom talked a King of some small Island in Carribean into making his Bar the Embassy of this country in the United Kingdom. The UK approved it, which basically made his bar Legal to Smoke in since it was then governed under that Island's laws.
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RE: Has anybody noticed what a pack of cigarettes cost now a days
(03-19-2009 11:09 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(03-19-2009 10:33 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  I know what you mean and I think you know what I mean. But your statement "One person's rights end where anothers begin" is something I could not agree more with. My mom used to tell me that as a kid.

Your right to be from smoke ends when you enter my private establishment.

What city made it illegal to smoke in your car if you had a kid in the car at the same time? New York City??
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(03-19-2009 11:30 AM)WMD Owl Wrote:  
(03-19-2009 11:09 AM)Rebel Wrote:  
(03-19-2009 10:33 AM)smn1256 Wrote:  I know what you mean and I think you know what I mean. But your statement "One person's rights end where anothers begin" is something I could not agree more with. My mom used to tell me that as a kid.

Your right to be from smoke ends when you enter my private establishment.

What city made it illegal to smoke in your car if you had a kid in the car at the same time? New York City??

California - where else? But how can you argue with it? I remember when you could smoke in hospitals.
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is it a law about smoking in hospitals or do hospitals have this policy on their own?
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(03-18-2009 09:50 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  That sugar cane can make good rum too. It might not seem relevant but rum is a biiiig seller.

Just don't eat the food. I went to a Cuban restaurant in Miami a few years ago. They brought me some yucca. I swear...it is named appropriately.03-lmfao The more I chewed it...the bigger it got. I finally had to spit it out. The only thing on the plate that I would consider edible was the fried bananas. No wonder the 100 Cubans get on a dingy and try and make the trip....They are looking for something decent to eat!04-cheers
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