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Maybe there is hope for the GOP after all...
Let them revolt... let them leave. The Sooner the Better

Michael Steele’s series of gaffes turned into something more serious Thursday, as leaders of a pillar of the GOP—the anti-abortion movement—shifted into open revolt over comments in an interview with the men’s magazine GQ.

Steele called abortion an “individual choice” and opposed a constitutional ban on abortion in the Feb. 24 interview, which appeared online Wednesday night. He echoed the language of the abortion rights movement and appeared to contradict his own heated assertions during his campaign for chairman that he is a committed soldier in the anti-abortion movement.

While he issued a statement Thursday affirming his opposition to abortion and his support for a constitutional amendment banning it, the damage appeared to be done as leading social conservatives publicly attacked the embattled chairman.

“Comments attributed to Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele are very troubling, and despite his clarification today the party stands to lose many of its members and a great deal of its support in the trenches of grass-roots politics,” former Gov. Mike Huckabee (R-Ark.) said in a posting on his blog. “For Chairman Steele to even infer that taking a life is totally left up to the individual is not only a reversal of Republican policy and principle, but it's a violation of the most basic of human rights — the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

“Are you saying you think women have the right to choose abortion?” GQ’s Lisa DePaulo asked in the interview in his office.

“Yeah. I mean, again, I think that’s an individual choice,” he said, according to GQ’s transcript, which he did not dispute.

“You do?” he was asked.

“Yeah. Absolutely,” he said.

In his statement Thursday, issued through the RNC press office, Steele said, “I am pro-life, always have been, always will be.”

“I tried to present why I am pro-life while recognizing that my mother had a ‘choice’ before deciding to put me up for adoption,” he said, explaining his comments. “But the Republican Party is and will continue to be the party of life. I support our platform and its call for a Human Life Amendment.”

But the explanation was too little, too late, for a series of other anti-abortion leaders.

"I think it is very troubling for a public figure, of either party, particularly one who presents himself as pro-life, to describe the abortion issue as being a matter of 'individual choice.' That is language straight out of Planned Parenthood's messaging playbook," said Charmaine Yoest, president of Americans United for Life, who called the comments “disturbing and demoralizing." 03-zzz

The remarks dipped into a deep and barely-concealed well of distrust for Steele among anti-abortion activists — sentiment that prompted him to assure the Washington Times last fall that he opposes abortion rights and favors a constitutional amendment, and left him defending his membership in the liberal Republican Leadership Council, an organization composed largely of Republicans who support abortion rights.

“[Steele] assured me as chairman his views did not matter and that he would be upholding and promoting the party platform, which is very clear on these issues,” said Family Research Council President Tony Perkins. “It is very difficult to reconcile the GQ interview with the chairman's pledge."

Another group taken by surprise by the GQ piece was gay Republicans. Steele drew fire from that quarter for an interview with a conservative radio host given the same day, Feb. 24, in which he responded to a question about civil unions with, “What are you, crazy? No.”

He told GQ, “I think that there's a whole lot that goes into the makeup of an individual that, uh, you just can't simply say, oh, like, 'Tomorrow morning I'm gonna stop being gay.' It's like saying,'Tomorrow morning I'm gonna stop being black.’”

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Good for Steele. I'm glad he is finally addressing the problems within the GOP in relation to pandering to the religious zealots and has stopped his "hip hop" nonsense. He was beginning to be a laughing stock.

Steele may understand that the independent vote is critical to winning elections and these positions do not fare well with the independent voter. Let's see how long it takes for him to get his legs chopped off for taking these positions. I say...not long.05-stirthepot
03-14-2009 06:38 PM
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The republicans will be much better off when they can say to the religious right, "You'll get a better deal from us than you will from anyone else, but you're not going to get everything you want--from us or from anybody else--because nobody can give you anything without getting elected and nobody can get elected by promising everything you want."

The democrats' may special interest groups all understand that and wait their turn. The republicans need to train theirs to do the same. Or else they are toast as a major political party.

I hope they do, becuase a republican party that did that is probably one that I could support. And we need some alternative to the loony left, for sure.
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(03-14-2009 06:42 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  The republicans will be much better off when they can say to the religious right, "You'll get a better deal from us than you will from anyone else, but you're not going to get everything you want--from us or from anybody else--because nobody can give you anything without getting elected and nobody can get elected by promising everything you want."

The democrats' may special interest groups all understand that and wait their turn. The republicans need to train theirs to do the same. Or else they are toast as a major political party.

I hope they do, becuase a republican party that did that is probably one that I could support. And we need some alternative to the loony left, for sure.

Yep...and they need to grasp the advantage by pushing for drastic decreases in military spending where it is prudent and does not endanger our security. Being the party of financial responsibility by addressing its own "third rail" would go a long way in regaining voters...particularly with the indy and Liberty minded voters.
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I am pro-life however I recognize that abortion is legal and will remain that way. Being beholden to banning it has kept the republican party from expanding it's ranks for far too long.

We're rebuilding the party, let's do it without being beholden to the loud, but single issue, wing of the party.
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(03-14-2009 06:42 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  The republicans will be much better off when they can say to the religious right, "You'll get a better deal from us than you will from anyone else, but you're not going to get everything you want--from us or from anybody else--because nobody can give you anything without getting elected and nobody can get elected by promising everything you want."

The democrats' may special interest groups all understand that and wait their turn. The republicans need to train theirs to do the same. Or else they are toast as a major political party.

I hope they do, becuase a republican party that did that is probably one that I could support. And we need some alternative to the loony left, for sure.

By and large the Religious Right has been told to "take a back seat" by most of the Republican Leadership. There weren't many at CPAC compared to the past. Even the "Right to Lifers" I know in local Party Leadership admit that economic issues are more pressing.
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Nope, their is no hope. Steele has no power.
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(03-14-2009 07:16 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  I am pro-life however I recognize that abortion is legal and will remain that way. Being beholden to banning it has kept the republican party from expanding it's ranks for far too long.

We're rebuilding the party, let's do it without being beholden to the loud, but single issue, wing of the party.

Being a Pro-choice independent...I am much more likely to vote for them if they follow your suggestion. The GOP must address the issues that appeal to the aprox. 30% of voters that consider themselves independents. They have lost that voting block.
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(03-14-2009 07:24 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(03-14-2009 07:16 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  I am pro-life however I recognize that abortion is legal and will remain that way. Being beholden to banning it has kept the republican party from expanding it's ranks for far too long.

We're rebuilding the party, let's do it without being beholden to the loud, but single issue, wing of the party.

Being a Pro-choice independent...I am much more likely to vote for them if they follow your suggestion. The GOP must address the issues that appeal to the aprox. 30% of voters that consider themselves independents. They have lost that voting block.

The Independents will come back if the Republicans show fiscal responsibility. Right now the hot button issues are taxes and spending.
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(03-14-2009 07:28 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  
(03-14-2009 07:24 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(03-14-2009 07:16 PM)Ninerfan1 Wrote:  I am pro-life however I recognize that abortion is legal and will remain that way. Being beholden to banning it has kept the republican party from expanding it's ranks for far too long.

We're rebuilding the party, let's do it without being beholden to the loud, but single issue, wing of the party.

Being a Pro-choice independent...I am much more likely to vote for them if they follow your suggestion. The GOP must address the issues that appeal to the aprox. 30% of voters that consider themselves independents. They have lost that voting block.

The Independents will come back if the Republicans show fiscal responsibility. Right now the hot button issues are taxes and spending.

I agree....between the abortion issue and fiscal responsibility...the later is probably the most important to indy voters.
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