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I remember the "Free Lunch" guys at my school. They were the ones wearing Nikes when I was wearing the generic brand of the year......with my buck and a half to pay for lunch.
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I know what you're saying. I did have Nikes but it was known that it was one pair a year and my clothes were more durable than stylish. The kids with the lunch numbers would pick on the people like me until they were blue in the face. I look back on it now and they were the same one's that would ask to borrow paper and pencils from me.
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(02-25-2009 11:56 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  I know what you're saying. I did have Nikes but it was known that it was one pair a year and my clothes were more durable than stylish. The kids with the lunch numbers would pick on the people like me until they were blue in the face. I look back on it now and they were the same one's that would ask to borrow paper and pencils from me.

Yeah, well that's what happens when you have entitlement-minded individuals. Paper and pencils don't make "momma" look good in front of others. Their kids clothes do. The papers and pencils, to them, should be provided by the government. I'm from Mississippi. I saw this **** ALL OVER THE STATE!. Walls, Ms., Horn Lake, Ms., Jackson, Ms., Byram, Ms., didn't f'n matter. There IS no pride in certain communities. Is it bred that way by certain families? Yes, I do believe it is. If I sound like a racist, sorry. Back in the 40's, blacks actually GAVE a damn about their lives. I don't blame them, though, I blame the GDamn liberals in this country. During integration, did they keep the same standards? NO! They lowered them because they didn't think blacks could compete. WTF? After Dr. Vivian Thomas? He'd run circles around a TON of white people. Why the lowering?

For those reading, don't call ME a f'n racist, call the people that implemented the legislation that caused the highest out-of-wedlock births, illiteracy rate, illegitimacy rate, drop-out rate, and incarceration rate. Blaming me is only masking the actual problem. I'll give you a hint, what caused it has a "D" behind the name.
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(02-25-2009 04:31 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  As the son of an elementary school principal I see that this happens all over the place, and that the lunch they receive is somewhat better than what the payers get. But the stupid thing about this is the fact that free and reduced lunch are out there and the families that need it most are not filling out the paper work even when they are reminded by notes and calls home.
The reason many don't is because people on this board would call free and discounted lunches "welfare" and put those people down. THey don't want to have their kids go through the "humiliation" of not being able to afford to buy lunch. It is only going to get worse if the republicans(you know, the ones who think $1.50/hour is way too much to pay a worker-there are a number of them on this board but I won't name names because the list would be way to long) get their way and wages keep dropping while costs go up.
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(02-25-2009 07:32 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(02-25-2009 07:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(02-25-2009 06:30 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  If you haven't eaten a school lunch recently, this meal may be better than the payers. I mean if you have a look at the food categories that the government gives these schools; you'll see that cheese and peanut butter are considered meat just because of their protein.

Here are the lunches my kid can get at school for $2 a day:

Pepperoni Pizza
Pop corn chicken
Pretzel with cheese sauce
Colossal cheeseburger
Sub sandwich
Spaghetti with meat sauce
Bean and cheese burrito
Bean, rice and cheese burrito
Cheese pizza
Yogurt and honey wheat bar
Orange chicken rice bowl.


A cheese sandwich with fruit on the side is healthier than most of the above. Until today I didn't know a pretzel with cheese sauce was considered a proper lunch. Gonna talk to the wife about this.

Does your kid go to a private school or something? If not it must be something that your state does because it is California. When I went to a school in Montreal and Toronto and our lunches were awesome and then I came to NC and school lunches fell dramatically.
You get better food because you pay more in taxes up there. Most of those in NC probably are like many on this board-don't raise my taxes(even if it makes your life better)!
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(02-26-2009 03:11 AM)RobertN Wrote:  
(02-25-2009 07:32 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(02-25-2009 07:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  
(02-25-2009 06:30 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  If you haven't eaten a school lunch recently, this meal may be better than the payers. I mean if you have a look at the food categories that the government gives these schools; you'll see that cheese and peanut butter are considered meat just because of their protein.

Here are the lunches my kid can get at school for $2 a day:

Pepperoni Pizza
Pop corn chicken
Pretzel with cheese sauce
Colossal cheeseburger
Sub sandwich
Spaghetti with meat sauce
Bean and cheese burrito
Bean, rice and cheese burrito
Cheese pizza
Yogurt and honey wheat bar
Orange chicken rice bowl.


A cheese sandwich with fruit on the side is healthier than most of the above. Until today I didn't know a pretzel with cheese sauce was considered a proper lunch. Gonna talk to the wife about this.

Does your kid go to a private school or something? If not it must be something that your state does because it is California. When I went to a school in Montreal and Toronto and our lunches were awesome and then I came to NC and school lunches fell dramatically.
You get better food because you pay more in taxes up there. Most of those in NC probably are like many on this board-don't raise my taxes(even if it makes your life better)!

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BTW Robert...The people that have their lives made better by the welfare state are the bureaucrats that hand out the money. 70% of every welfare dollar goes to pay their salaries. Just how do you justify this?

I 100% want people to better their lives...but...I'm not going to support the use of violence or coercion against others to achieve that goal. I fully support charity. The problem we have is that today...welfare is not seen as charity, but as a right.
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(02-26-2009 03:11 AM)RobertN Wrote:  You get better food because you pay more in taxes up there. Most of those in NC probably

are like many on this board-don't raise my taxes(even if it makes your life better)!

Your insanity is rampant man.

Pray tell me Robert - - why are Rubbers, Secret School Sponsored Invasive Contraceptive Surgical Procedures, and Abortions FREE ROBERT, yet a f'cking Cheese Burger, Fries, and a Drink must be paid for or you STARVE ?????

I know you have no answer because there is no answer to this madness, but go ahead and give us your goofy take on how this is LOGICAL .....

How sick and backward this crap is and you eat it up like it is the Brain Matter of the Gods.

Pure Foolishness .....

Oh yeah Dweeb Boy - - in my County, the School Boards were warring so badly they had to Split them up - - there is NOW a County School Board and a City School Board - - 80% of all County Children are forbidden by law from being able to Attend the City School System Robert ......

BUT GUESS WHAT ..... 100% of the County Citizens are FORCED TO PAY CITY SCHOOL TAXES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Taxation Without Representation" aye hun ???? you want to run that one by the SCOTUS homez ???

Give 12 Year Olds $1000 Dollars each worth of Condoms and Birth Control Pills every year, BUT DON'T FEED THEM a DECENT MEAL - - how grossly stupid !!!!!! 04-chairshot 03-nutkick

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(02-26-2009 01:13 PM)Tripster Wrote:  
(02-26-2009 03:11 AM)RobertN Wrote:  You get better food because you pay more in taxes up there. Most of those in NC probably

are like many on this board-don't raise my taxes(even if it makes your life better)!

Your insanity is rampant man.

Pray tell me Robert - - why are Rubbers, Secret School Sponsored Invasive Contraceptive Surgical Procedures, and Abortions FREE ROBERT, yet a f'cking Cheese Burger, Fries, and a Drink must be paid for or you STARVE ?????

Did you just read this George Will column?
http://www.limaohio.com/articles/sex_345...stadt.html

It contrasts the prevailing cultural views of sex and food, and the changes over the past 50 years.

Even so, while you make interesting points Trip, I don't think I agree w/ you completely. Fact is, kids who aren't paying, and whose families don't qualify for extra gov't aid, are getting decent meals. Meals that are similar to those people have been eating for centuries. Those people lived, worked, raised families...and didn't complain. Moreover, they typically weren't obese, so these kids are getting an extra break.

Yet somehow, they and their families are up in arms, b/c they don't get as much as someone who pays. Not that they don't get enough but not as much. This is called envy, and it's deadly.
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(02-26-2009 01:23 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  Did you just read this George Will column?
http://www.limaohio.com/articles/sex_345...stadt.html

It contrasts the prevailing cultural views of sex and food, and the changes over the past 50 years.

Even so, while you make interesting points Trip, I don't think I agree w/ you completely. Fact is, kids who aren't paying, and whose families don't qualify for extra gov't aid, are getting decent meals. Meals that are similar to those people have been eating for centuries. Those people lived, worked, raised families...and didn't complain. Moreover, they typically weren't obese, so these kids are getting an extra break.

Yet somehow, they and their families are up in arms, b/c they don't get as much as someone who pays. Not that they don't get enough but not as much. This is called envy, and it's deadly.

No, haven't read it, but I will .... I have always liked George Will's take on things.

And Torch, it is not so much that it is a "Pay for what You Eat" ideology as much as it is the 'Hundreds of Millions' of Dollars spent on things within Schools that should NEVER even be anywhere near a school.

If they can fund all these "invasive and non-scholastic endeavors", then what is the problem with feeding Every Student Steak, Eggs, and Lobster ??

For me, it is simply "Stop the Socialistic Federally Funded Programs" that have Absolutely 100% NOTHING to do with Education and I won't say another word about Feeding All Students exactly the same with Federal Funds.

Go back to teaching just the 'Three R's" and I won't say a thing more.

The balance is not there and the Logic has Escaped with the Asylum Inmates on this one.

If they can afford to load Schools down with rules and regulations so they can keep accepting Federal Dollars, then they can Feed the Kids while handing them Condoms and Birth Control Pills - - Rubbers and the Morning After Pill has Zip, Zero, NADA to do with Education in total - - a decent meal does.

That is my point and for me, it makes a ton of common sense.

And hey, Rubbers make the best M16 Muzzle Covers - - I beat they don't teach Students that in School.

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(02-26-2009 01:56 PM)Tripster Wrote:  
(02-26-2009 01:23 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  Did you just read this George Will column?
http://www.limaohio.com/articles/sex_345...stadt.html

It contrasts the prevailing cultural views of sex and food, and the changes over the past 50 years.

Even so, while you make interesting points Trip, I don't think I agree w/ you completely. Fact is, kids who aren't paying, and whose families don't qualify for extra gov't aid, are getting decent meals. Meals that are similar to those people have been eating for centuries. Those people lived, worked, raised families...and didn't complain. Moreover, they typically weren't obese, so these kids are getting an extra break.

Yet somehow, they and their families are up in arms, b/c they don't get as much as someone who pays. Not that they don't get enough but not as much. This is called envy, and it's deadly.

No, haven't read it, but I will .... I have always liked George Will's take on things.

And Torch, it is not so much that it is a "Pay for what You Eat" ideology as much as it is the 'Hundreds of Millions' of Dollars spent on things within Schools that should NEVER even be anywhere near a school.

If they can fund all these "invasive and non-scholastic endeavors", then what is the problem with feeding Every Student Steak, Eggs, and Lobster ??

For me, it is simply "Stop the Socialistic Federally Funded Programs" that have Absolutely 100% NOTHING to do with Education and I won't say another word about Feeding All Students exactly the same with Federal Funds.

Go back to teaching just the 'Three R's" and I won't say a thing more.

The balance is not there and the Logic has Escaped with the Asylum Inmates on this one.

If they can afford to load Schools down with rules and regulations so they can keep accepting Federal Dollars, then they can Feed the Kids while handing them Condoms and Birth Control Pills - - Rubbers and the Morning After Pill has Zip, Zero, NADA to do with Education in total - - a decent meal does.

That is my point and for me, it makes a ton of common sense.

And hey, Rubbers make the best M16 Muzzle Covers - - I beat they don't teach Students that in School.

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Can I opt out of paying taxes for schools already and just home-school?
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(02-26-2009 04:11 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  Can I opt out of paying taxes for schools already and just home-school?

I home schooled and I still had to pay both County School System Taxes and City School System Taxes and my kids could not, by law, attend the City Schools ....

Now that is a Founding Father Moment if I have ever seen one.

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(02-26-2009 02:59 AM)RobertN Wrote:  The reason many don't is because people on this board would call free and discounted lunches "welfare" and put those people down. THey don't want to have their kids go through the "humiliation" of not being able to afford to buy lunch. It is only going to get worse if the republicans(you know, the ones who think $1.50/hour is way too much to pay a worker-there are a number of them on this board but I won't name names because the list would be way to long) get their way and wages keep dropping while costs go up.

Okay, so let me get this straight.
Here we are, trying to encourage people to pick themselves up by the bootstraps and make a better life for themselves... as opposed to living off of the working public... but we don't want to "embarass" the kids who can't afford lunch... even though clearly, peer pressure causes kids to do just about everything they do... I agree that it would be bad for kids to make fun of others, and they should be punished for it, but by the same token, why is is absolutely wrong to have somebody feel the slightest bit of obligation to solve their own problems. Where is the incentive for them to get OFF of public assistance? Seriously?? No... I don't like making kids pay for the sins of their parents, so as a parent, I'd take the bus rather than drive, or ride a bike rather than take the bus and let my kid buy a $2 lunch... but I wouldn't let him buy the 50 cent cookie. If the parent won't do things to ease their own child's humiliation (like fill out the paperwork) then why should I feel obligated to?? I was a volunteer at a huge school store... and I can't tell you how many times I saw kids on a free lunch card blow $2-3 EVERY DAY on candy after school... and kids who I knew whose parents were struggling financially, but paid for their lunch, and saved the quarter change every day to buy something at the school store. It's called teaching kids responsibility, rather than teaching them how to work the system.

MOST schools have a lunch card system anyway. Elementary school kids generally can't be trusted to hang onto cash. Now, many older kids don't use it because they want the "coolness" of using and carrying cash... and the parents don't want to fuss with "loading" the card... but why should the public pay for a kid to be cool, or a parent who doesn't want the fuss of buying a $10 lunch card every monday, or a $20 lunch card every payday? The kids on free lunch would be just like those other kids using their lunch card. Most private schools I know of use a lunch card and even a school store card because they don't want people to know who gets free lunch or free books and supplies (scholarship)... but things BEYOND the scholarship get billed to the parents... so those kids don't often buy the "extras".

At my daughter's school, which is one of the best private schools in the city... if you forget your lunch card they make you stay after and wipe tables and push in chairs... Kind of embarassing... so they don't forget often... Why should those getting a free education and free lunch be asked to do less??

It's the same thing as the Nike story above and the brand new car in front of the subsidized housing.

The sense of entitlement in this country is unbelievable. Show me one other place you can get a sandwich of ANY kind alone for $2, much less a drink and fruit. I realize that they are forced to go to school... but the choice is to home school, which is legal... or to have tens of millions of unsupervised minors wandering the streets with nothing to do. What is your alternative?
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(02-26-2009 05:55 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(02-26-2009 02:59 AM)RobertN Wrote:  The reason many don't is because people on this board would call free and discounted lunches "welfare" and put those people down. THey don't want to have their kids go through the "humiliation" of not being able to afford to buy lunch. It is only going to get worse if the republicans(you know, the ones who think $1.50/hour is way too much to pay a worker-there are a number of them on this board but I won't name names because the list would be way to long) get their way and wages keep dropping while costs go up.

Okay, so let me get this straight.
Here we are, trying to encourage people to pick themselves up by the bootstraps and make a better life for themselves... as opposed to living off of the working public... but we don't want to "embarass" the kids who can't afford lunch... even though clearly, peer pressure causes kids to do just about everything they do... I agree that it would be bad for kids to make fun of others, and they should be punished for it, but by the same token, why is is absolutely wrong to have somebody feel the slightest bit of obligation to solve their own problems. Where is the incentive for them to get OFF of public assistance? Seriously?? No... I don't like making kids pay for the sins of their parents, so as a parent, I'd take the bus rather than drive, or ride a bike rather than take the bus and let my kid buy a $2 lunch... but I wouldn't let him buy the 50 cent cookie. If the parent won't do things to ease their own child's humiliation (like fill out the paperwork) then why should I feel obligated to?? I was a volunteer at a huge school store... and I can't tell you how many times I saw kids on a free lunch card blow $2-3 EVERY DAY on candy after school... and kids who I knew whose parents were struggling financially, but paid for their lunch, and saved the quarter change every day to buy something at the school store. It's called teaching kids responsibility, rather than teaching them how to work the system.

MOST schools have a lunch card system anyway. Elementary school kids generally can't be trusted to hang onto cash. Now, many older kids don't use it because they want the "coolness" of using and carrying cash... and the parents don't want to fuss with "loading" the card... but why should the public pay for a kid to be cool, or a parent who doesn't want the fuss of buying a $10 lunch card every monday, or a $20 lunch card every payday? The kids on free lunch would be just like those other kids using their lunch card. Most private schools I know of use a lunch card and even a school store card because they don't want people to know who gets free lunch or free books and supplies (scholarship)... but things BEYOND the scholarship get billed to the parents... so those kids don't often buy the "extras".

At my daughter's school, which is one of the best private schools in the city... if you forget your lunch card they make you stay after and wipe tables and push in chairs... Kind of embarassing... so they don't forget often... Why should those getting a free education and free lunch be asked to do less??

It's the same thing as the Nike story above and the brand new car in front of the subsidized housing.

The sense of entitlement in this country is unbelievable. Show me one other place you can get a sandwich of ANY kind alone for $2, much less a drink and fruit. I realize that they are forced to go to school... but the choice is to home school, which is legal... or to have tens of millions of unsupervised minors wandering the streets with nothing to do. What is your alternative?

I think you lost him when you started to make sense.
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