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Obama's welfare state
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Quote:What's a good Money Liberal to do?

Answer: Rewrite the law, in the stimulus package, to let states expand their caseloads but pretend, for "caseload reduction credit" purposes, that the caseloads have declined. Specifically, the revision would allow states take the credit they would have gotten based on their caseloads in 2007 or 2008 even if their caseloads soar (as the Dems would like) in 2009 and 2010.

In other words, they can expand their caseloads but still use the now-fictitious "reduction credit" to avoid the law's work requirements.

Lots of new people on welfare. Lower work obligations. The best of both worlds for welfare-unreforming Dems.

TAX AND SPEND!!! TAX AND SPEND!!! FOR NOW JUST SPEND!!!

Quote:The major difference between the House and Senate versions of this deeply troubling provision, apparently, is that the Senate allocates only $3 billion to induce states to expand their caseloads, while the House bill might spend more than twice as much.

TAX AND SPEND!!! TAX AND SPEND!!! FOR NOW JUST SPEND!!!

The True "Stimulus" in the earmark/pork riddled Democrat plan is about half of what they want to send ... the rest is expanding welfare and starting socialized medicine.
02-11-2009 07:37 PM
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RE: Obama's welfare state
California is a high paying welfare state. As such, people on welfare in poorer paying states move here in order to get bigger $$$. To the state's credit they tried to stop this practice when they started paying out of state welfare recipients what they were receiving in their home state. Of course the ACLU or some other liberal group sued and it was ruled unconstitutional.
02-11-2009 10:09 PM
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RE: Obama's welfare state
(02-11-2009 10:09 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  California is a high paying welfare state. As such, people on welfare in poorer paying states move here in order to get bigger $$$. To the state's credit they tried to stop this practice when they started paying out of state welfare recipients what they were receiving in their home state. Of course the ACLU or some other liberal group sued and it was ruled unconstitutional.
How much longer are we going to allow this BS? End the Welfare state...allow private charity to help those really in need and put the freeriders out on the street to find a JOB.04-cheers
02-11-2009 10:56 PM
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Red states are the tax sucking whores 03-nutkick
http://www.trackforum.com/forums/printth...p?t=115285

red state socialism, won't hear about it but the facts and dollars don't lie.
02-11-2009 11:46 PM
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RE: Obama's welfare state
(02-11-2009 10:09 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  California is a high paying welfare state. As such, people on welfare in poorer paying states move here in order to get bigger $$$. To the state's credit they tried to stop this practice when they started paying out of state welfare recipients what they were receiving in their home state. Of course the ACLU or some other liberal group sued and it was ruled unconstitutional.

Do you make this stuff up or is there a website that you go to?
02-12-2009 04:36 AM
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(02-11-2009 11:46 PM)onlinepole Wrote:  Red states are the tax sucking whores 03-nutkick
http://www.trackforum.com/forums/printth...p?t=115285

red state socialism, won't hear about it but the facts and dollars don't lie.

Sure they do...if you don't include all the facts.

If state taxes are high, that reduces the amount of money going to the fed...but it doesn't reduce the tax load on the citizen.

You also ignore what the dollars are being spent on. If the peace-niks don't want military presence in their state, or if the eco-nuts don't want an incenerator, they end up somewhere else, along w/ the dollars to build/operate them. And that's not socialism...taxpayers are getting something for their money in those cases.

No, this superficial look at things is a big ol' lie.
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02-12-2009 08:48 AM
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(02-12-2009 04:36 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(02-11-2009 10:09 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  California is a high paying welfare state. As such, people on welfare in poorer paying states move here in order to get bigger $$$. To the state's credit they tried to stop this practice when they started paying out of state welfare recipients what they were receiving in their home state. Of course the ACLU or some other liberal group sued and it was ruled unconstitutional.

Do you make this stuff up or is there a website that you go to?

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02-12-2009 01:23 PM
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