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RE: Please explain the UL, ULL, ULM name thing....
(05-19-2009 09:11 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-19-2009 07:00 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  
(05-19-2009 07:35 AM)Trojan Delta Chi Wrote:  
(05-18-2009 09:03 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-18-2009 08:01 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  Thanks for your interest in The University of Louisiana!!!

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/fiusports...esday.html

Hope you're pulling for UL, partner!!! woohoo!
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I am not interested in ULL at all. I only provided correct information in response to a legitimate question.


who are you again? i don't believe i've ever seen you post here before my friend.

He is "an unbiased resident" LOL!!!

Good luck in the tourney this week!

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Once again, I am an unbiased resident of Louisiana. I have personal friends who graduated from ULL, ULM, La Tech, ULM, and SE La U., and LSU. As a result of these relationships I prefer to be neutral in the matter and only comment when I see an obvious mistake has been made. The comments earlier in this thread included several inaccurate statements.

HEY DUDE!! Louisiana won today!!! Thanks for your support!!!

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RE: Please explain the UL, ULL, ULM name thing....
(05-20-2009 03:31 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  
(05-19-2009 09:11 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-19-2009 07:00 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  
(05-19-2009 07:35 AM)Trojan Delta Chi Wrote:  
(05-18-2009 09:03 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(05-18-2009 08:01 PM)zeebart21 Wrote:  Thanks for your interest in The University of Louisiana!!!

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/fiusports...esday.html

Hope you're pulling for UL, partner!!! woohoo!
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I am not interested in ULL at all. I only provided correct information in response to a legitimate question.


who are you again? i don't believe i've ever seen you post here before my friend.

He is "an unbiased resident" LOL!!!

Good luck in the tourney this week!

Z
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Once again, I am an unbiased resident of Louisiana. I have personal friends who graduated from ULL, ULM, La Tech, ULM, and SE La U., and LSU. As a result of these relationships I prefer to be neutral in the matter and only comment when I see an obvious mistake has been made. The comments earlier in this thread included several inaccurate statements.

HEY DUDE!! Louisiana won today!!! Thanks for your support!!!

Z

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RE: Please explain the UL, ULL, ULM name thing....
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Once again, I am an unbiased resident of Louisiana. I have personal friends who graduated from ULL, ULM, La Tech, ULM, and SE La U., and LSU. As a result of these relationships I prefer to be neutral in the matter and only comment when I see an obvious mistake has been made. The comments earlier in this thread included several inaccurate statements.
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HEY DUDE!! Louisiana won today!!! Thanks for your support!!!

Z
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Yeah, I saw in the Baton Rouge newspaper that the University of Louisiana at Lafayette also won their game. Thats great, glad to see the Louisiana teams doing well.
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RE: Please explain the UL, ULL, ULM name thing....
(05-21-2009 06:55 PM)eager eagle Wrote:  -------------------------------------------------------------------
Once again, I am an unbiased resident of Louisiana. I have personal friends who graduated from ULL, ULM, La Tech, ULM, and SE La U., and LSU. As a result of these relationships I prefer to be neutral in the matter and only comment when I see an obvious mistake has been made. The comments earlier in this thread included several inaccurate statements.

HEY DUDE!! Louisiana won today!!! Thanks for your support!!!

Z
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Yeah, I saw in the Baton Rouge newspaper that the University of Louisiana at Lafayette also won their game. Thats great, glad to see the Louisiana teams doing well.
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BR newspaper? LOL!! You just outed yourself. Whats the matter you couldnt get into lsu?

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ULL just wants their name to be UL, it was never UL, and will never be UL. There are strict guidelines in the University of Louisiana System that says that no school can be UL. It goes as far as to say how big the words have to be. The city name is supposedly not allowed to be 50% smaller than the "University of Louisiana" font size. They just ignore the rule and for some reason are not forced to abide by it.
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RE: Please explain the UL, ULL, ULM name thing....
(05-22-2009 07:51 PM)bmwilder139 Wrote:  ULL just wants their name to be UL, it was never UL, and will never be UL. There are strict guidelines in the University of Louisiana System that says that no school can be UL. It goes as far as to say how big the words have to be. The city name is supposedly not allowed to be 50% smaller than the "University of Louisiana" font size. They just ignore the rule and for some reason are not forced to abide by it.

There is no violation of the law as written for using "Louisiana" clown! You can interpret the law anyway you want, but a legal opinion has ben given to the university. In fact, Louisiana-Monroe is in violation of the letter of the law according to your own interpretation. Don't try and insert your own opinion into the law, its very clear what can be used. "Louisiana" can be used without the city designation attached, but the "University of Louisiana" cannot be used without the city attachment.
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(05-24-2009 04:15 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(05-22-2009 07:51 PM)bmwilder139 Wrote:  ULL just wants their name to be UL, it was never UL, and will never be UL. There are strict guidelines in the University of Louisiana System that says that no school can be UL. It goes as far as to say how big the words have to be. The city name is supposedly not allowed to be 50% smaller than the "University of Louisiana" font size. They just ignore the rule and for some reason are not forced to abide by it.

There is no violation of the law as written for using "Louisiana" clown! You can interpret the law anyway you want, but a legal opinion has ben given to the university. In fact, Louisiana-Monroe is in violation of the letter of the law according to your own interpretation. Don't try and insert your own opinion into the law, its very clear what can be used. "Louisiana" can be used without the city designation attached, but the "University of Louisiana" cannot be used without the city attachment.


As per the UL system website. This is pulled directly from their name change policies!



C. The use of the two-letter University of Louisiana abbreviation, “UL,” and/or the
phrase “U of L” are prohibited by the university or any of its affiliated organizations
(alumni associations, development foundations, bookstores, etc.). For academic,
public relations, athletic, as well as other purposes not specified, the use of the
University of Louisiana abbreviation must always include the abbreviation for the
municipal location of the institution. For example, ULR is appropriate for University
of Louisiana at Rayne.
D. All uses of the name “University of Louisiana” must be followed by the word “at”
and the institution’s geographic location. No typographic variations within the name
are permitted. The word “at” must be no less than 50% and the geographic location
must not exceed 100% nor be less than 80% of the University of Louisiana name.
Any institutional use of “University of Louisiana” without the “at” and geographic
location is prohibited.


The Big UL bush at the football field, the UL hats and helmets are IN DIRECT violation of of III sections c and d. We do NOT want to be UL. We simply want for you to follow the same rules that we did and quit trying to be bigger than you really are!

What violations do we have?
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Oh, we're resorting to being 3 year olds and calling each other names? That's mature. I'd rather be a clown than a douchebag. (Insert whiney 3 year old voice.)
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RE: Please explain the UL, ULL, ULM name thing....
(05-24-2009 07:27 PM)ULMSOT Wrote:  
(05-24-2009 04:15 PM)CajunT Wrote:  
(05-22-2009 07:51 PM)bmwilder139 Wrote:  ULL just wants their name to be UL, it was never UL, and will never be UL. There are strict guidelines in the University of Louisiana System that says that no school can be UL. It goes as far as to say how big the words have to be. The city name is supposedly not allowed to be 50% smaller than the "University of Louisiana" font size. They just ignore the rule and for some reason are not forced to abide by it.

There is no violation of the law as written for using "Louisiana" clown! You can interpret the law anyway you want, but a legal opinion has ben given to the university. In fact, Louisiana-Monroe is in violation of the letter of the law according to your own interpretation. Don't try and insert your own opinion into the law, its very clear what can be used. "Louisiana" can be used without the city designation attached, but the "University of Louisiana" cannot be used without the city attachment.


As per the UL system website. This is pulled directly from their name change policies!



C. The use of the two-letter University of Louisiana abbreviation, “UL,” and/or the
phrase “U of L” are prohibited by the university or any of its affiliated organizations
(alumni associations, development foundations, bookstores, etc.). For academic,
public relations, athletic, as well as other purposes not specified, the use of the
University of Louisiana abbreviation must always include the abbreviation for the
municipal location of the institution. For example, ULR is appropriate for University
of Louisiana at Rayne.
D. All uses of the name “University of Louisiana” must be followed by the word “at”
and the institution’s geographic location. No typographic variations within the name
are permitted. The word “at” must be no less than 50% and the geographic location
must not exceed 100% nor be less than 80% of the University of Louisiana name.
Any institutional use of “University of Louisiana” without the “at” and geographic
location is prohibited.


The Big UL bush at the football field, the UL hats and helmets are IN DIRECT violation of of III sections c and d. We do NOT want to be UL. We simply want for you to follow the same rules that we did and quit trying to be bigger than you really are!

What violations do we have?


Sorry Sot, UL hats have Lafayette on the back. I have the same hat UL baseball wears, but I'm sure you could see that all the way from Monroe on television. The uniforms either have Lafayette on the sleeve or the back beneath the collar depending on the sport. Again, as long as its on the uniform, we are in compliance.

Now, since you posted the law we can plainly see how silly some of the posters on your site really are in their complaints. This law only applys to (alumni associations, development foundations, bookstores, etc.). (For academic,public relations, athletics). This is very clear and specific; it does not apply to unaffiliated web sites, news media or publications,but cleary the Sports Information Department. No person that is not in any official capacity with the univeristy or alumni association can be restricted by this law. Its called freedon of speech my friend.

And once again, the use of "Louisiana" as not prohibited by this law as stated by some of the village idiots on your web site. No where is the use of "Louisiana" by itself prohibited in reference to athletics or any other matter.

So let's review your so-called violations. First, the university has not asked the SBC office or any member institution to refer to our athletic program as "UL", but " Louisiana's Ragin' Cajuns". (not prohibited by law)

All uniforms, softball and baseball caps or helmets have Lafayette as required by law when "UL" is used.( All in compliance with the law)

The official athletic web site clearly states-"Louisiana-Lafayette". (In compliance with the law)

One set of hedges in the football stadium with the abbreviate UL, without the Lafayette designation. Problem, not really. During the football season when the stadium is in use, Lafayette is painted underneath the hedges every year. The same complaint has been made in the past and addressed in the same manner. So even after your so-called list of violations, we are left with a set of hedges.

Finally, you guys can continue to try and tell privately own corporations like Phil Steele, Gannett News, CSS and CST they are not allowed to refer to our program as "Louisiana." I certainly look forward to their response, politely telling you guys to piss off.
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I was at the last ULL/ULM game and there was no paint under the bushes. I am done. Have a nice day.
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That da**ed Graham Watson!!!! She knows who Louisiana is!!! LOL!!

Tough stretches ahead for several teams

May 29, 2009 9:55 AM

Posted by ESPN.com's Graham Watson

In every season there's always a tough stretch of games that makes or breaks a conference title or a major bowl berth. The following are some rough schedule stretches for teams who won their conferences last year and are expected to challenge for their conference titles and/or a possible BCS berth this year.

TCU
Nov. 14 Utah
Nov. 21 at Wyoming
Nov. 28 New Mexico

Utah at TCU was one of the best games of the Mountain West season last year because it more or less sent Utah on its way to the BCS and TCU fighting for a share of the conference title, which it didn't get. That game should have similar meaning for both teams this year. The Wyoming game is intriguing because the last time TCU went to Laramie it came away with a 24-21 loss. And no one knows what to make of New Mexico this year. Because the two teams meet late, the Lobos could put up more of a fight than they did in the early season game last year.

BYU
Sept. 5 vs. Oklahoma @Arlington, Texas
Sept. 12 at Tulane
Sept. 19 Florida State

No one expects BYU to defeat Oklahoma, which is exactly why it could be the most important game on the Cougars schedule. BYU ended last season with a two-game losing streak and it was clear that it mentally affected the team. The high expectations are going to be there again, but this stretch of games, in which they could easily come out 1-2, will make or break the confidence of the Cougars for the early part of the season and might affect their chances of winning the Mountain West.

UTAH
Nov. 14 at TCU
Nov. 21 San Diego State
Nov. 28 at Brigham Young

It's probably safe to assume that with a tough nonconference schedule, a new quarterback and a slew of new players, that Utah isn't going to have another undefeated campaign. But that doesn't mean the Utes won't challenge for the conference crown. The stretch to end the regular season will determine whether the Utes can defend the Mountain West title. It's also good that they get a respite with San Diego State.

BOISE STATE
Oct. 14 at Tulsa (Wed.)
Oct. 24 at Hawai'i
Oct. 31 San Jose State
Nov. 6 at Louisiana Tech (Fri.)

Yes, the Oregon game on Sept. 3 is huge and will undoubtedly make or break the Broncos BCS chances. But this is also a team that prides itself on winning the WAC and this is the stretch where the Broncos can make the most strides. I added Tulsa in here because that has the potential to be a shootout game with Tulsa's style, and could put a strain on a team that then has to turn around and travel to Hawaii, which is not an easy place to play. San Jose State will be much better this year with a stiff defense and an improved offense and Boise State and Louisiana Tech will be a much better game this year than it was last year. The biggest thing here is all the travel the Broncos have to do during the four-game span.

TROY
Sept. 26 at Arkansas State
Oct. 6 Middle Tennessee
Oct. 17 at Florida International

One could look at the Troy schedule and argue that the toughest games are at the end of the schedule with Florida Atlantic and Louisiana,
but I think these three games, the first three of the Sun Belt season, will set the tone for the Trojans. All three teams will be better than they were a year ago, especially Middle Tennessee, which now has Tony Franklin, former Troy offensive coordinator, as its offensive coordinator. And I've been saying all offseason that no one in the Sun Belt should sleep on Florida International.

EAST CAROLINA
Oct. 27 at Memphis (Tue.)
Nov. 5 Virginia Tech (Thur.)
Nov. 15 at Tulsa (Sun.)

Yes, ECU opens the season with a tough set against West Virginia and North Carolina, but this stretch of games is absolutely brutal for not only ECU's hopes of defending their conference title, but also achieving an undefeated season. Memphis will be one of the chief challengers for C-USA East and playing on the road in that game won't be easy especially with Virginia Tech, a team the Pirates beat dramatically last season, looming. Then the Pirates have to travel to Tulsa, the team they beat to win Conference USA last year.

TULSA
Nov. 7 Houston
Nov. 15 East Carolina (Sun.)
Nov. 21 at Southern Miss
Nov. 28 Memphis

This might be one of the most brutal stretches of all that are listed here. Not only will Houston be looking to repeat its 70-30 shellacking of the Golden Hurricane last year, Tulsa will have to fend off the potential top three teams in C-USA East. Tulsa doesn't have to sweep this stretch to win C-USA West, but it would help.

BUFFALO
Oct. 24 at Western Michigan
Nov. 3 Bowling Green (Tue.)
Nov. 10 Ohio (Tue.)

Buffalo probably isn't the favorite to win the MAC East, but the Bulls weren't the favorite last year either. Playing at Western Michigan is going to be a tough task especially with two of the top East teams waiting on the horizon. Both Bowling Green and Ohio will be tough this year since both return several key players and both made strides this spring.

BALL STATE
Nov. 12 at Northern Illinois (Thur.)
Nov. 18 Central Michigan (Wed.)
Nov. 24 at Western Michigan (Tue.)

There's no doubt that this isn't last year's Ball State team, but it could be in the hunt for the MAC West as it hits this stretch at the end of the season. These four teams will all be vying for the MAC West and it's unfortunate for Ball State that two of the games are on the road. Getting Central Michigan, who will be the MAC favorite heading into the season, at home will help.

CENTRAL MICHIGAN
Oct. 10 Eastern Michigan
Oct. 17 at Western Michigan
Oct. 24 at Bowling Green

The Chippewas have a couple tough two-game stretches in the beginning and at the end of the year, but this little stretch might be pivotal in Central Michigan trying to win its third MAC title in the past four seasons. The Chippewas lost to Eastern Michigan each of the past two seasons and played close games with Western Michigan each of the past two seasons. Bowling Green figures to be in the hunt for the MAC East and though the Chippewas defeated BGSU in the last meeting in 2006, the Falcons had won the five meetings before that.

Utah Utes, Brigham Young Cougars, Texas Christian Horned Frogs, Boise State Broncos, Troy Trojans, East Carolina Pirates, Tulsa Golden Hurricane, Buffalo Bulls, Ball State Cardinals, Central Michigan Chippewas, Key stretch 2009

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