National Acadamies Press is taking a survey on what matters most to you.

"Climate change" is in the lead, but I suspect that this is fairly incestuous in who they poll. So, here's a chance to put in a vote that might influence the NAS.

http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/85926/what-...t-to-you-b

Oh FFS, Ocean Health is a HELLUVA lot more important than this concocted man-made climate change BS. We actually DO have an impact on the ocean, with trash, pollution, etc. What we're doing to the climate, well, what many a idiot says we're doing, is akin to that guy jumping into the lion's cage trying to save him. Guess what, the lion is going to do what the lion does. Namely, tear his ass up with a smile on his face.

(01-15-2009 02:51 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Oh FFS, Ocean Health is a HELLUVA lot more important than this concocted man-made climate change BS. We actually DO have an impact on the ocean, with trash, pollution, etc. What we're doing to the climate, well, what many a idiot says we're doing, is akin to that guy jumping into the lion's cage trying to save him. Guess what, the lion is going to do what the lion does. Namely, tear his ass up with a smile on his face.

As you state, Nitro-phosphate runoff pollution has a increasing impact on the oceans. But this is going to be GD expensive to prevent/clean up..since you are going to have to build runoff treatment and control systems for farms.

(01-15-2009 08:47 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(01-15-2009 02:51 PM)Rebel Wrote:  Oh FFS, Ocean Health is a HELLUVA lot more important than this concocted man-made climate change BS. We actually DO have an impact on the ocean, with trash, pollution, etc. What we're doing to the climate, well, what many a idiot says we're doing, is akin to that guy jumping into the lion's cage trying to save him. Guess what, the lion is going to do what the lion does. Namely, tear his ass up with a smile on his face.

As you state, Nitro-phosphate runoff pollution has a increasing impact on the oceans. But this is going to be GD expensive to prevent/clean up..since you are going to have to build runoff treatment and control systems for farms.

I think we already do a damn good job. Look at Google Earth and the mouths of the rivers leading into the ocean in the states, compared to those in Brazil, China, etc. There's no comparison. I have NO problem with pollution control.

Emerging Infectious Diseases
Water Resources
Ocean Health
Energy
Criminal Justice

and Space Exploration are the most pressing on that list.

I voted for, in no particular order, ocean health, health costs, aging infrastructure, energy and water resources (every one in So Cal would agree with this) I can't believe how high climate change ranks and we'd be wasting a lot of money if we pursued it.

In Ohio they pay farmers to let their land lay fallow up to 10 yards from a river or stream. It has really helped with phosphates and nitrates in run off water. Lake Erie has really clarified in the last ten years. It used to be pea soup green. Now sunlight can reach 10 meters or more.

(01-15-2009 11:51 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  In Ohio they pay farmers to let their land lay fallow up to 10 yards from a river or stream. It has really helped with phosphates and nitrates in run off water. Lake Erie has really clarified in the last ten years. It used to be pea soup green. Now sunlight can reach 10 meters or more.

I thought that was due to the zebra mussel. Seems they have a new reason for things every time it's convenient.

(01-15-2009 02:41 PM)DrTorch Wrote:  National Acadamies Press is taking a survey on what matters most to you.

"Climate change" is in the lead, but I suspect that this is fairly incestuous in who they poll. So, here's a chance to put in a vote that might influence the NAS.

http://www.surveygizmo.com/s/85926/what-...t-to-you-b

You don't believe in science.