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RE: MORE OBAMA PROBLEMS (Formerly Now In Office & Proving He's A Liar)
I ripped on Bush for these signing statements too. They are absolute B.S. If legislation is illegal, don't sign it! Don't sign it and then say "I can ignore certain parts of it." Yet another example of how Obama is a P.O.S. politician no different than Bush, Clinton, Reagan, etc. Another case of ripping the Repubs for the same thing he now chooses to do. Anyone who believed his "Change You Can Believe In" slogan was and is a freakin' moron!

"President Obama has irked close allies in Congress by declaring he has the right to ignore legislation on constitutional grounds after having criticized George W. Bush for doing the same.

Four senior House Democrats on Tuesday said they were "surprised" and "chagrined" by Obama's declaration in June that he doesn't have to comply with provisions in a war spending bill that puts conditions on aid provided to the World Bank and International Monetary Fund."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/...latestnews
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RE: OBAMA THE LIAR, HYPOCRITE, & MAKES BAD CHOICES THREAD
More b.s. from the Pres - can't believe so many of you voted for this guy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Api4fUziAnI
12-15-2009 09:14 PM
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RE: OBAMA THE LIAR, HYPOCRITE, & MAKES BAD CHOICES THREAD
For what it is worth. I know a TON of few people who voted for Obama and have some interesting observations. I'll break this down into three groups:

1. Some were people in their 50s and 60s who TRULY expected another version of JFK and Camelot.

2. Others were people in their late teens into their 20s who thought voting for Obama was the "cool" thing to do (young, hip African-American vs. old white guy) regardless of the fact that very few could explain why Obama should be supported--minus the "He's not Bush" explanation (to be fair--I did not hear any reasonable argument to vote for McCain from his supporters as well).

3. Those in their 30s and 40s were split 50/50.

As we head into mid-December and after a few months of observations and listening to their conversatoins:

-Those in their 50s and 60s are now worried about what will happen with the health care system should Obama gets what he wants (remember the flak when the government thought that perhaps fewer mammograms were needed?). They are also worried about the insane spending of money that we do not have (which go all the way back to Bush and has only gone worse).

-Those in their 30s and 40s are now worried about (what seems certain to them--and to me) an increase in taxes to pay for health care and the debt burden.

-Those in their late teens into their 20s are busy drinking, smoking, doing ecstasy, having sex, playing video games and watching "Jersey Shore" and are absolutely CLUELESS with what is going on. That is except for one young lady (early 20s I believe) I met who worked very hard for Obama during his campaign. She told me that had she known then what she knows now, she never would have supported him and is fearful of what will happen. I don't know how many in her age group feel the same way, but she is the only one whom I have seen that is paying attention to what is going on.

Believe me when I say there is a LOT of buyer's remorse right now.
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RE: Not Even In Office & Already A Liar
(12-03-2008 09:18 AM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
Rock Bottom Wrote:http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/13088..._Container

So, apparently Barry thinks it's ok to lie, as long as it is "in the heat of the campaign." What an a-hole. God - and his administration hasn't even begun yet.

Obama's dictionary: "change" = reinstall the Clinton Administration

Seriously, get over yourself. When he lies to invade a foreign nation, then talk to me.

Or when his VP who is actually running the country was the previous president of KBR. The private contractor who profited the most off the Afghan & Iraq wars. Chicken hawk Cheney has the company reincorporate in Dubai so they can afford any US gov't investigation or prosecution of the numerous charges of misconduct that have been made against them.

Reich wingers (and some corporate dems) are whores for the drug, insurance, pharmaceutical and defense contractors pure and simple. If McCain had won the US would at war with Iran by now putting our armed forces on 3 fronts.
12-16-2009 12:43 AM
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RE: OBAMA THE LIAR, HYPOCRITE, & MAKES BAD CHOICES THREAD
The biggest problem is we get very few good candidates for office. We need to have term limits and less negative campaigning. Nobody is perfect but good candidates to run goverment don't want the intrusion into their personal lives.
12-16-2009 08:21 AM
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RE: OBAMA THE LIAR, HYPOCRITE, & MAKES BAD CHOICES THREAD
(12-16-2009 08:21 AM)klake87 Wrote:  The biggest problem is we get very few good candidates for office. We need to have term limits and less negative campaigning. Nobody is perfect but good candidates to run goverment don't want the intrusion into their personal lives.
Hey Klake, why don't you run for an office? Got something to hide? 05-stirthepot I remember reading republicans continually using the "Hey, I have nothing to hide" when it came the Patriot act among other Bush intrusions to our personal lives so this shouldn't be a problem for you, right?
12-16-2009 01:22 PM
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RE: OBAMA THE LIAR, HYPOCRITE, & MAKES BAD CHOICES THREAD
(07-01-2009 11:58 PM)onlinepole Wrote:  
(02-11-2009 08:14 AM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  
calvin12 Wrote:because they were allowed to give them did not mean they were required to give them. The banks chose to make highly risky loans in order to make more money. They knew a bunch would forecolse but the banks also knew that they would just take what they got and resell the house to someone else.


They were essentially required by the feds via the CRA to expand their lending. And, banks in were pressured by groups such as Acorn to extend their lending practices.

Banks should have pushed back, but didn't. They buckled and gave in.

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What was the last time any bank did what a community group pressured them to do. 03-lmfao

Banks made the loans because credit was cheap. The Fed funds rate was ridiculously low, thereby reducing their risk. They knew full well that a certain percentage would default but that they'd make $ overall in the process. Banks could give 2 piles of manure about morality or what any non profit thinks they should do. Their decisions are based solely on what will maximize profit. If they didn't want to lend to those who didn't have 10-20% they could have said no.

Are you saying that the only thing banks care about is making money?!
Wow! Imagine that.

(12-16-2009 01:22 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(12-16-2009 08:21 AM)klake87 Wrote:  The biggest problem is we get very few good candidates for office. We need to have term limits and less negative campaigning. Nobody is perfect but good candidates to run goverment don't want the intrusion into their personal lives.
Hey Klake, why don't you run for an office? Got something to hide? 05-stirthepot I remember reading republicans continually using the "Hey, I have nothing to hide" when it came the Patriot act among other Bush intrusions to our personal lives so this shouldn't be a problem for you, right?


In this new era of hope and change, if you have any money or you are making any kind of profit, you have something to hide.

If you have a business, you had better not be increasing your payroll. That would imply that you are making a profit (refer to above).
12-16-2009 04:57 PM
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RE: Not Even In Office & Already A Liar
(12-16-2009 12:43 AM)onlinepole Wrote:  
(12-03-2008 09:18 AM)niuhuskie84 Wrote:  
Rock Bottom Wrote:http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/13088..._Container

So, apparently Barry thinks it's ok to lie, as long as it is "in the heat of the campaign." What an a-hole. God - and his administration hasn't even begun yet.

Obama's dictionary: "change" = reinstall the Clinton Administration

Seriously, get over yourself. When he lies to invade a foreign nation, then talk to me.

Or when his VP who is actually running the country was the previous president of KBR. The private contractor who profited the most off the Afghan & Iraq wars. Chicken hawk Cheney has the company reincorporate in Dubai so they can afford any US gov't investigation or prosecution of the numerous charges of misconduct that have been made against them.

Reich wingers (and some corporate dems) are whores for the drug, insurance, pharmaceutical and defense contractors pure and simple. If McCain had won the US would at war with Iran by now putting our armed forces on 3 fronts.

As I've now said probably 20 times - show me where I ever said I was a fan of the Bush Administration! Just because I'm anti-Obama doesn't mean I was pro-Bush. Why do all of you Obama Kool-Aid drinkers always assume that? Because you can't think for yourselves?
12-17-2009 01:23 AM
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RE: OBAMA THE LIAR, HYPOCRITE, & MAKES BAD CHOICES THREAD
(12-16-2009 01:22 PM)RobertN Wrote:  
(12-16-2009 08:21 AM)klake87 Wrote:  The biggest problem is we get very few good candidates for office. We need to have term limits and less negative campaigning. Nobody is perfect but good candidates to run goverment don't want the intrusion into their personal lives.
Hey Klake, why don't you run for an office? Got something to hide? 05-stirthepot I remember reading republicans continually using the "Hey, I have nothing to hide" when it came the Patriot act among other Bush intrusions to our personal lives so this shouldn't be a problem for you, right?

First, you must have failed reading. I am not a republican. I am a fiscal conservative and libertarian. Second, the patriot act was to listen to suspecting terrorist activity. No I have nothing to hide. I am not planning any terrorist activities. My point is the campaigning has gotten so negative that average people would never run because what I did years ago has nothing to do with me being able to turn around our countries problems but we are so fixated on the "other" issues that we don't address what people want to do for us.
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