TIGER-PAUL
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Krocker Krapp
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RE: new BCS standings
The lunacy continues. Cincinnati should be 11th and Ball State should be 12th, ahead of MWC two-loss non-autobid runner-up TCU, despite pollsters trying to make themselves feel good with unwarranted political correctness.
Pitt should be ranked 22nd, flipping spots with Northwestern, which moved up two spots without even playing. Tulsa, at 10-2, should be ranked 24th instead of Florida State, which has four losses and got spanked yesterday.
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11-30-2008 05:45 PM |
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KNIGHTTIME
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RE: new BCS standings
Non-BCS teams deserve at least 2 teams in the BCS this year.
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11-30-2008 05:50 PM |
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Krocker Krapp
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RE: new BCS standings
KNIGHTTIME Wrote:Non-BCS teams deserve at least 2 teams in the BCS this year.
TCU, however, is not one of those teams and has absolutely no business being ranked ahead of Cincinnati or Ball State. The MWC got a lot of wins against a weak Pac-10 early in the season, then its top four teams beat up on its horrid bottom five teams, and has received inflated rankings from a windfall of politically correct feelgood voting ever since.
The Bearcats, meanwhile, have been held down because they are not a sexy name and the Big East is a very tough conference even though their only losses, to #2 Oklahoma and league rival Connecticut, both came in contests where their quarterbacks got injured while the scores were close. They came back to take care of business in all other games.
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11-30-2008 06:00 PM |
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bitcruncher
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RE: new BCS standings
I'm not a fan of the BCS, so I could care less. I already know The BEast doesn't stand a chance of reaching the BCS Championship game, unless we get a miracle...
Last year was probably our best chance, but RichRod had his eyes on Michigan, instead of the national championship...
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11-30-2008 06:24 PM |
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Cubanbull
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RE: new BCS standings
Oh dont give up so eaily we will have one in next four years count on it.
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11-30-2008 06:26 PM |
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bitcruncher
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RE: new BCS standings
You assume the voters will give anyone in The BEast the benefit of the doubt. The southern-centric voting populous might have done that for USF, but not after the way they've folded again after their hot start...
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11-30-2008 06:29 PM |
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Cubanbull
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RE: new BCS standings
Well we shall see, but as USF proved we can get there. The Big East champ must be 12-0 but if they do they wil be in it.
USF will have to prove that it wont fold in the future and thats fine, because as I said the BE champ will have to go 12-0. Take care of business and we will be there.
and dont worry USF will have other 5-0 starts to prove itself.
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11-30-2008 06:31 PM |
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RE: new BCS standings
Krocker Krapp Wrote:KNIGHTTIME Wrote:Non-BCS teams deserve at least 2 teams in the BCS this year.
TCU, however, is not one of those teams and has absolutely no business being ranked ahead of Cincinnati or Ball State. The MWC got a lot of wins against a weak Pac-10 early in the season, then its top four teams beat up on its horrid bottom five teams, and has received inflated rankings from a windfall of politically correct feelgood voting ever since.
The Bearcats, meanwhile, have been held down because they are not a sexy name and the Big East is a very tough conference even though their only losses, to #2 Oklahoma and league rival Connecticut, both came in contests where their quarterbacks got injured while the scores were close. They came back to take care of business in all other games.
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11-30-2008 06:44 PM |
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Krocker Krapp
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RE: new BCS standings
It will take a miracle? West Virginia would have made the BCS title game last year if the heavily favored Mountaineers had simply defeated Pitt in the Backyard Brawl. Rich Rodriguez, distracted by his secret talks with Michigan in my opinion, did not prepare for that game properly and clearly cost his program, as well as the Big East, what would have been a sure BCS national title last season.
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11-30-2008 06:45 PM |
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TIGER-PAUL
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RE: new BCS standings
wvu would have made it last year with one loss if they would have beat pitt
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11-30-2008 06:58 PM |
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chrisRU
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RE: new BCS standings
Krocker Krapp Wrote:KNIGHTTIME Wrote:Non-BCS teams deserve at least 2 teams in the BCS this year.
TCU, however, is not one of those teams and has absolutely no business being ranked ahead of Cincinnati or Ball State. The MWC got a lot of wins against a weak Pac-10 early in the season, then its top four teams beat up on its horrid bottom five teams, and has received inflated rankings from a windfall of politically correct feelgood voting ever since.
The Bearcats, meanwhile, have been held down because they are not a sexy name and the Big East is a very tough conference even though their only losses, to #2 Oklahoma and league rival Connecticut, both came in contests where their quarterbacks got injured while the scores were close. They came back to take care of business in all other games.
Not sure why you have such a beef with TCU.
Oklahoma 35 - TCU 10
Oklahoma 52 - Cincy 26
BCS Eligible Utah 13 - TCU 10
Unranked UConn 40 - Cincy 16
What's the problem with TCU being ranked above Cincinnati? It doesn't matter if they lost their QB or not, they still lost the game. Cincy (and most of the Big East) lacks any marquee wins this year. Save TCU's 2 losses, they've rolled over just about all of their opponents, including BYU.
TCU deserves to be ranked where they are. I am not trying to take anything away from the Bearcats, but they are the kings of a relatively mediocre conference that lacks any stand out teams. If anything, I think the Bearcats are getting a bump in the rankings because they are in a BCS conference.
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11-30-2008 07:19 PM |
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bitcruncher
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RE: new BCS standings
It's a new experience. They can b!tch about it if they want to, dude...
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11-30-2008 07:43 PM |
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Krocker Krapp
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RE: new BCS standings
chrisRU Wrote:Not sure why you have such a beef with TCU.
Oklahoma 35 - TCU 10
Oklahoma 52 - Cincy 26
BCS Eligible Utah 13 - TCU 10
Unranked UConn 40 - Cincy 16
What's the problem with TCU being ranked above Cincinnati? It doesn't matter if they lost their QB or not, they still lost the game. Cincy (and most of the Big East) lacks any marquee wins this year. Save TCU's 2 losses, they've rolled over just about all of their opponents, including BYU.
TCU deserves to be ranked where they are. I am not trying to take anything away from the Bearcats, but they are the kings of a relatively mediocre conference that lacks any stand out teams. If anything, I think the Bearcats are getting a bump in the rankings because they are in a BCS conference.
TCU does not deserve to be ranked above Cincinnati and Ball State. As far as comparing Oklahoma scores, that means nothing, the margin of defeat is the same for both teams and the Bearcats quarterback was injured in the game as well.
TCU is a runner-up in a league that is overinflated by an overflow of politically correct goodwill based on a series of early season wins against a weakened Pac-10. Now their officials and fans are running their mouths about our BCS bid again.
TCU, the MWC, and all of their supporters can drop off the face of the Earth as far as I am concerned. No amount of babbling is going to give them our BCS bid and the MWC runner-up is not better than the Big East champion. Screw all that.
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11-30-2008 07:45 PM |
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TIGER-PAUL
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RE: new BCS standings
again, they can become an autobid conference by meeting the criteria over a 4 yr period which they haven't been able to do. It has nothing to do with the BE having a bid.
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11-30-2008 08:01 PM |
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bitcruncher
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RE: new BCS standings
They haven't done it - yet. They're close...
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11-30-2008 08:07 PM |
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chrisRU
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RE: new BCS standings
The Big East is not losing their bid to the MWC. If people want to get their panties in a wad worrying about it, so be it. If anything, the MWC will gain a bid and the BCS will go to seven conferences.
You have three good teams in the MWC, then Air Force, and then the rest of the conference falls off the face of the earth. Big East is solid from top to bottom, save Syracuse and possibly Ville if they dont get the ship righted. Otherwise, I really haven't seen the BE get the amount of negavtive press as they have in years past. We win our bowl games and we do well OOC. It's a dead issue.
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11-30-2008 08:36 PM |
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Krocker Krapp
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RE: new BCS standings
It should be a dead issue but media hacks with agendas, unprofessional MWC officials, and arrogant fans keep bringing up the issue. I do not wear panties, thank you very much, but I am sick of these morons spreading misinformation and flapping their yaps. If they would just go about their business quietly and work their way up to autobid status, there is no problem with them, but running their mouths and lyingly insulting the Big East is absolutely wrong and will get them nowhere. I clearly know there is no way the MWC can take our BCS bid but the media, MWC officials, and their ridiculous fans need to learn this reality as well and just shut their mouths about delusional fantasies that are not going to happen anyway.
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11-30-2008 09:00 PM |
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TIGER-PAUL
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RE: new BCS standings
I guess the BE will always be a target because it doesn't have a host bowl or is looked upon as the 6th conf. But the BE is meeting the criteria, ripping on them should not be the approach. It should be meeting the criteria. Or getting them to change the criteria. There is room for a seventh conference if they make the grade.
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