I would like to know from the conservatives that want a wall at the border, who do they plan to get to build it?

The tens of millions of people who are going to be unemployed after the liberals raise the minimum wage to $12/hr.

BlazerFan11 Wrote:The tens of millions of people who are going to be unemployed after the liberals raise the minimum wage to $12/hr.

The auto workers when the "compassionate" conservatives allow the US auto industry go under.

We could build the wall pretty cheap if we outsourced it to the Germans..

They build excellent walls....

RobertN Wrote:

BlazerFan11 Wrote:The tens of millions of people who are going to be unemployed after the liberals raise the minimum wage to $12/hr.

The auto workers when the "compassionate" conservatives allow the US auto industry go under.

Yeah, the conservatives forced the Big 3 to make crappy, overpriced products. It's the liberals who are in the unions' back pockets.

I bet all the liberals who want to throw more cash at them have shown their support over the years by all driving U.S. made cars, right?

WMD Owl Wrote:We could build the wall pretty cheap if we outsourced it to the Germans..

They build excellent walls....

So do the Israelis.

RobertN Wrote:

BlazerFan11 Wrote:The tens of millions of people who are going to be unemployed after the liberals raise the minimum wage to $12/hr.

The auto workers when the "compassionate" conservatives allow the US auto industry go under.

Why shouldn't they "allow" it? Who wants more government interference in their lives? The people who want the gov't involved are the ones not talented enough to compete.

As for compassionate conservatives...we wouldn't need a wall if it weren't for showing too much compassion. Maybe if the political left started doing the things they want everyone to pay for in taxes, we'd all be happier.

DrTorch Wrote:

RobertN Wrote:

BlazerFan11 Wrote:The tens of millions of people who are going to be unemployed after the liberals raise the minimum wage to $12/hr.

The auto workers when the "compassionate" conservatives allow the US auto industry go under.

Why shouldn't they "allow" it? Who wants more government interference in their lives? The people who want the gov't involved are the ones not talented enough to compete.

As for compassionate conservatives...we wouldn't need a wall if it weren't for showing too much compassion. Maybe if the political left started doing the things they want everyone to pay for in taxes, we'd all be happier.

SOme of your favorite "socialist" do pretty well here(as does the US):

http://worlddatabaseofhappiness.eur.nl/h...nat_fp.htm

DrTorch Wrote:

RobertN Wrote:

BlazerFan11 Wrote:The tens of millions of people who are going to be unemployed after the liberals raise the minimum wage to $12/hr.

The auto workers when the "compassionate" conservatives allow the US auto industry go under.

As for compassionate conservatives...we wouldn't need a wall if it weren't for showing too much compassion. Maybe if the political left started doing the things they want everyone to pay for in taxes, we'd all be happier.

Neither the conservatives nor liberals in politics want to do anything about illegal immigration, for reasons of their own. Conservatives want the cheap labor, and liberals don't want to lose their hispanic voters.

By the way, does a border wall count as "infrastructure"?

WMD Owl Wrote:We could build the wall pretty cheap if we outsourced it to the Germans..

They build excellent walls....

The Chinese might be even better.

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RobertN ... I really want you to come join us for Thanksgiving this year.

And when we get finished Target Shooting at my house, I will take you over to my Long Time "Jewish" Friend, who owns a Gun Shop by the way and let you and him "Discuss the Israeli Issue" ....

I have seen this guy in action and he will skin the hide off a man before he can feel the pain.

I think and believe my Friend can show you a different point of view on the "Jewish Issue".

One thing is for certain, you will NEVER forget him as long as you live.

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DrTorch Wrote:

RobertN Wrote:

BlazerFan11 Wrote:The tens of millions of people who are going to be unemployed after the liberals raise the minimum wage to $12/hr.

The auto workers when the "compassionate" conservatives allow the US auto industry go under.

Why shouldn't they "allow" it? Who wants more government interference in their lives? The people who want the gov't involved are the ones not talented enough to compete.

As for compassionate conservatives...we wouldn't need a wall if it weren't for showing too much compassion. Maybe if the political left started doing the things they want everyone to pay for in taxes, we'd all be happier.

Bingo!!! WTF are people scared of? I love traveling people. What I dont like is that they are offered a socialist handout that motivates them to stay after they have worked and accomplished their goal of providing for their family on the other side of the imaginary line.. End the welfare state...the traveling problem will go away.

firmbizzle Wrote:I would like to know from the conservatives that want a wall at the border, who do they plan to get to build it?

I propose we build a necessary "Wall"...around DC to protect the rest of the nation against it's tyranny!!!

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I smell Excellent Private Security Jobs in the Air to guard the Wall, the Equipment, and the Materials ....

Sounds like I could do this for fun and retire from it before it is completed.

May would be a good thing for old guyz like me that can shoot and chew gum at the same time.

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firmbizzle Wrote:I would like to know from the conservatives that want a wall at the border, who do they plan to get to build it?

Am I the only one to think of this? We hire local Mexicans to build the wall from the MEXICAN side. It will be much cheaper ($3.50 per hour, no benefits, no unions, no OSHA, no paid day off on Martin Luther King Day, etc) and when they're done they would have sealed themselves out.

Tripster Wrote:.

I smell Excellent Private Security Jobs in the Air to guard the Wall, the Equipment, and the Materials ....

Sounds like I could do this for fun and retire from it before it is completed.

May would be a good thing for old guyz like me that can shoot and chew gum at the same time.

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Sounds like you want to retire as a paid killer.

Just yanking your chain....I know you really don't want to shoot people that just want to travel and find a better life.....I'm just pointing out what appeared to be flippant comment about "shooting and chewing gum at the same time". Don't you really think that this an issue that should be put to rest?

Let's be realistic. In a free market economy...increased population is a good thing. Those traveling people are buying goods and services and are a huge benefit to the economy.
Of course...We should screen out as much of the criminal element as possible...but...Most the criminal element is because of our prohibition on weed. The US is it's own worst enemy...

My only beef with travelers is giving them handouts from my stolen wages. My wife is the Health Director in the county that we reside. Most of the $$$ that are spent are taking care of traveling people. This is the reason our immigration policy is a failure.

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"Dry Humor" Fo .... Dry Humor ....

And I live in an area that has used Illegal Mexican Labor for at least 40 years.

These guys NEVER hardly EVER cause any problems, they work and keep to them selves and for everyone to Falsely Believe that where I live is still a Super Racist Haunt .... it isn't and the illegal's are simply "the way things are here" and no one pays it any special attention.

I think we are running out of room here, especially since Congress seems to want to Give Every Illegal that steps into the United States, $1 Million Cash Dollars and Heavy Equipment for Free, so he can become Productive ..... but I would like at least $500 Thousand and just a Tractor or Two and I have been here a long long time ..... LMAO.

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Tripster Wrote:.

"Dry Humor" Fo .... Dry Humor ....

And I live in an area that has used Illegal Mexican Labor for at least 40 years.

These guys NEVER hardly EVER cause any problems, they work and keep to them selves and for everyone to Falsely Believe that where I live is still a Super Racist Haunt .... it isn't and the illegal's are simply "the way things are here" and no one pays it any special attention.

I think we are running out of room here, especially since Congress seems to want to Give Every Illegal that steps into the United States, $1 Million Cash Dollars and Heavy Equipment for Free, so he can become Productive ..... but I would like at least $500 Thousand and just a Tractor or Two and I have been here a long long time ..... LMAO.

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Then we are in agreement....The Welfare State is the real problem with our traveling neighbors. Here in NC...they used to come and crop tobacco, pick cucumbers and other produce...make their cash and move on....eventually going back across the imaginary line and living comfortably in the sunshine of a Mexican winter....Now...We have put up a damn fence to make it hard to go back and are giving incentives to just remain in the US.... The Us traveling person policy is a total failure...And..Ill be damned...As with all govt. failures....I have to pay for that failure with my stolen wages!!

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Absolutely 100% correct ..... stop the Welfare if you aren't going to stop the Illegal's.

That is a pretty simple 'Rule' that even Congress can understand.

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Tripster Wrote:.
Absolutely 100% correct ..... stop the Welfare if you aren't going to stop the Illegal's.

That is a pretty simple 'Rule' that even Congress can understand.

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I'd love to see a day where travelers were not called "illegals". I would actually like to see people just live in a voluntary society and not have imaginary lines separate us. Then only thing that would separate us would be our hard work, skill and knowledge. If we allowed a true free market society to flourish...the potential for the growth of mankind would escalate by leaps and bounds.