These indictments will come quicker than Palin's email hacker... [/u]


WASHINGTON (AP) - The FBI is investigating whether the community activist group ACORN helped foster voter registration fraud around the nation before the presidential election. A senior law enforcement official confirmed the investigation to The Associated Press on Thursday.

A second senior law enforcement official says the FBI was looking at results of recent raids on ACORN offices in several states for any evidence of a coordinated national scam.[u]

Both officials spoke on condition of anonymity because Justice Department regulations forbid discussing ongoing investigations particularly so close to an election.

ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, says it has registered 1.3 million young people, minorities and poor and working-class voters - most of whom tend to be Democrats.

Republican accusations about the group were raised during Wednesday's presidential debate between Democrat Barack Obama and GOP candidate John McCain.

Some ACORN employees have been accused of submitting false voter registration forms - including some signed 'Mickey Mouse' or other fictitious characters.

Those voter registration cards have become the focus of fraud investigations in Nevada, Connecticut, Missouri and at least five other states. Election officials in Ohio and North Carolina also recently questioned the group's voter forms.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081016/D93RT3100.html

WMD Owl Wrote:These indictments will come quicker than Palin's email hacker... [/u]


WASHINGTON (AP) - The FBI is investigating whether the community activist group ACORN helped foster voter registration fraud around the nation before the presidential election. A senior law enforcement official confirmed the investigation to The Associated Press on Thursday.

Sure hope you're right ! ! There is so much swirling around this guy it's bound to r esult in something of high concern.

I still don't understand how registering fake names, gets you more votes on election day. I haven't voted since 2004, but don't you have to provide a Driver's license, or some kind of government recognized identification to actually vote?

I have heard that alot of this came from paying people by quotas, to go out and register voters. And, alot of these people took the easy road and just made up alot of names so they could get paid.

Could just be the Obama campaign's spin, but I still don't understand how the fake names could actually turn into votes.

If it can impact the election, then we need to throw everything we have at those comitting the fraud. Plus, McCain should demand extensive recounts in all the areas that ACORN covered. And ACORN should be forced to finance the recounts.

dwr0109 Wrote:I still don't understand how registering fake names, gets you more votes on election day. I haven't voted since 2004, but don't you have to provide a Driver's license, or some kind of government recognized identification to actually vote?

Could just be the Obama campaign's spin, but I still don't understand how the fake names could actually turn into votes.

If it can impact the election, then we need to throw everything we have at those comitting the fraud. Plus, McCain should demand extensive recounts in all the areas that ACORN covered. And ACORN should be forced to finance the recounts.

Depends on the state. Some States you have to show a photo ID at the polls, but don't have to show ID to get an absentee ballot and vote by mail.

Other states such as Texas, you just show up with the Registration Certificate issued by the local voter registrar at the designated polling site. No ID asked for.

And anyone who would take advantage of a mentally handicapped voter deserves to be shot...

October 16, 2008

ALBANY, GA (WALB) - State election officials are launching their own investigation into the handling of a mentally challenged man's vote.

Secretary of State Karen Handle's office contacted WALB Thursday to tell us they asked the Office of Inspector General to investigate Jack Justice's voting experience.

Wednesday, the Albany Area Community Service Board which oversees Primus Industries said they will bring in an external agency to investigate allegations made by Justice.

He told his family that an aide from Primus took him and five other mentally challenged clients to vote and forced them to vote for Barack Obama. Justice says he told the aide he wanted to vote for John McCain, but was overridden.

Election officials say if that happened, the aide will face criminal charges.

http://www.walb.com/global/story.asp?s=9191440[/u]

the libs have a website set up, where they can register to vote in Ohio and it matches them up with a fellow lib in Ohio to use their address to 'verify' it. Apparently some that are doing this are foreigners.

Thats how bad this has come to. This is a Multi-State major RICO case going on, if Feds do nothing Democracy is finished.

I'm really interested in seeing if ACORN has done anything wrong here. Both sides are telling very different stories. If there is any kind of coordinated effort to illicitly register votes, they should be held accountable, but if this is just a few rogues who did this, then I really don't see what the problem is. According to ACORN, they are required to turn in all registration forms whether they are real of faked.

I'll be further surprised if there are a significant amount of votes using these rejected registrations.

purpose of registering Mickey Mouse isn't so much for that vote(though possible in some circumstances), but rather so in the confusion of going through the Disney Characters and Dallas Cowboys lineup the poll workers are so overwhelmed that John Smith of 123 Olive Street slides under the radar.

check this out: Ohio Prosecutor investigating Voter Fraud house

along with atleast 200k voter registration mismatches that the Dem Sec. of State didn't want to disclose to public or make Poll workers look into, and is now trying to get the SCOTUS to let her have her way.

Now they have proof of ACORN fraud from Primaries in New Mexico...there are many hillary supporters for McCain over this stuff

Quote:Fraudulent Votes Cast in New Mexico
Obama’s ACORN Must Be Shut Down Before Election, All Activities Investigated


(Albuquerque, NM) – Public records released in New Mexico today confirm that fraudulent voter registrations are in fact turning into fraudulent votes. ACORN, currently under investigation by the FBI, is now confirmed to be responsible for producing fraudulent voter registrations and illegal votes in New Mexico. An inspection of public records has revealed that illegal votes were cast in New Mexico’s 2008 primary election.


“This is a bombshell. We now have undeniable proof that a significant number of fraudulent voters were cast in Democrat primary races for the New Mexico state legislature as a result of ACORN’s voter registration fraud,” remarked State Representative Justine Fox Young (R-Albuquerque). “No longer can ACORN argue that their phony voter registration forms don’t translate into fraudulent votes. They do and today we can prove it.”

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“It is safe to say that the number of illegal votes being cast dwarfs the 366 votes that decided the 2000 Presidential election in New Mexico,” said Nina Martinez, Secretary for the Republican Party of New Mexico. “Barack Obama contributed $832,000 to ACORN, organized an ACORN subsidiary, represented them as their attorney, trained some of their members and received ACORN’s endorsement. Obama should withdraw his financial support from ACORN and come clean about what he knows of their activities. Every fraudulent vote cancels out an honest vote. We must ensure the integrity of this year’s election.”

Bourgeois_Rage Wrote:I'm really interested in seeing if ACORN has done anything wrong here. Both sides are telling very different stories. If there is any kind of coordinated effort to illicitly register votes, they should be held accountable, but if this is just a few rogues who did this, then I really don't see what the problem is. According to ACORN, they are required to turn in all registration forms whether they are real of faked.

I'll be further surprised if there are a significant amount of votes using these rejected registrations.

In one state 2,000 of 2,000 voter registration forms submitted by ACORN were fraudulent, that state (as I posted early) doesn't have the resources to check the other 3,000 submitted from that ACORN group in the city in question. There will no doubt be some voters that cast ballots that are not LEGALLY allowed to do so because of ACORN's efforts. As there is no doubt that several million dollars of Obama's campaign contributions are ILLEGAL, but there is not enough time to sort this out before Obama seizes power. That is exactly why I think there must be election reform.

dwr0109 Wrote:I still don't understand how registering fake names, gets you more votes on election day.

It dosent.

It's not going to make any difference this time. This is going to be such a landslide for the Dems. that even with the voter fraud it is not going to matter. I agree though, that the voting system need an overhaul...Take it out of the governments hands and let the free market solve this problem. This is NOT rocket science.

I have not seen anyone yet really call this election over!!

Let me be the first one declare....."Its over Johnny!":lmfao:

THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:

Bourgeois_Rage Wrote:I'm really interested in seeing if ACORN has done anything wrong here. Both sides are telling very different stories. If there is any kind of coordinated effort to illicitly register votes, they should be held accountable, but if this is just a few rogues who did this, then I really don't see what the problem is. According to ACORN, they are required to turn in all registration forms whether they are real of faked.

I'll be further surprised if there are a significant amount of votes using these rejected registrations.

In one state 2,000 of 2,000 voter registration forms submitted by ACORN were fraudulent, that state (as I posted early) doesn't have the resources to check the other 3,000 submitted from that ACORN group in the city in question. There will no doubt be some voters that cast ballots that are not LEGALLY allowed to do so because of ACORN's efforts. As there is no doubt that several million dollars of Obama's campaign contributions are ILLEGAL, but there is not enough time to sort this out before Obama seizes power. That is exactly why I think there must be election reform.

This story should have come out sooner and been given more media coverage. It too close to the elections for this to make a difference. and no one will ever even consider that Obama's campaign is capable of doing something illegal - Jesus doesn't commit crimes.