cb4029
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
uhmump95 Wrote:GGniner Wrote:mlb Wrote:What do the McCain supporters think of his plan to tax not only individuals but businesses on health care benefits?
thats not his plan, its Obama's lie...one he's repeating a million times in constant ads around the country.
Are you sure? I believe he said last night, your benefits "could" be taxed. Also he has not said anything about it not being true.
I like how you take statements in blogs and conservative sites as fact as long as it bashes Obama, but when a claim has been lodged against McCain and he does not refute it, it is still a lie.
Some people will just say anything.
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10-16-2008 02:46 PM |
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GGniner
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
umm, thats a tax policy site not a conservative website.
FactCheck.org, which I think needs its on Fact checkers to fact check them sometimes, has several post about the Health Care plan lies. Obama is a Lawyer, of course he lies.
McCain would provide a refundable tax credit of $5,000 to all families, and $2,500 for single workers, that is not a Tax rise on health benefits.
I'll gladly post a 'conservative' website on this though, since its such a Taboo thing to do, questioning Obama's honesty and all..
http://www.spectator.org/archives/2008/1...-care-lies
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10-16-2008 03:42 PM |
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uhmump95
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
He did say last night that some benefits would be taxed. I think he tried to preface it with "cadillac" or something about really good health benefits. Who decides which benefits get to be taxed? What are really good health benefits?
So I could have "really good" health benefits get them taxed and then lose them because the company does not want to pay taxes on my benefits and then use a $5000 tax credit to attempt to get my "really good" health benefits on my own (without the benefir of group coverage), or Obama can give the company a tax credit of 50% of how much they pay for my "really good" benefits and also add measures to keep my costs low.....
Which to choose? Which to choose?
(This post was last modified: 10-16-2008 04:59 PM by uhmump95.)
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
DrTorch Wrote:RobertN Wrote:Well, the Repubs had the Presidency and both houses for 6 years. Could they not have done anything for thom during those 6 years? Of course not. Just blame it on the Democrats as usual.
Yeah, they were busy dealing w/ filibusters blocking court appointees and other wastes of time. If the Dems would follow the principles of government that they were supposed to, things might operate a little more smoothly.
So what you are saying is they should just kiss Bush and the republican's asses? Sorrry. That is not how it is supposed to work.
(This post was last modified: 10-17-2008 01:25 AM by RobertN.)
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10-17-2008 01:16 AM |
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
DrTorch Wrote:Simplify the code and you'd have feral accountants and lawyers all over the place, rioting in the streets! It would be like France.
I don't even get the reference to France, but that's a hilarious phrase - "feral accountants and lawyers". I always wondered what would happen to those folks if Washington ran out of paper... :domokun: :domokun: :domokun:
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10-17-2008 06:27 AM |
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
(08-29-2023 09:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: A blast from the past....
Joe, not a, plumber...dies.
Joe the Plumber and His Afterlives
You don't see how creepy you come off for digging up this and then making light of it?
Could you be any more of an asshat?
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08-30-2023 07:02 AM |
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
(08-30-2023 07:02 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (08-29-2023 09:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: A blast from the past....
Joe, not a, plumber...dies.
Joe the Plumber and His Afterlives
You don't see how creepy you come off for digging up this and then making light of it?
Could you be any more of an asshat?
If a liberal idiot that had 15 minutes of fame 15 years ago died, would you say the same thing if a conservative poster made a similar comment?
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08-30-2023 10:07 AM |
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
(08-30-2023 10:07 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote: (08-30-2023 07:02 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (08-29-2023 09:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: A blast from the past....
Joe, not a, plumber...dies.
Joe the Plumber and His Afterlives
You don't see how creepy you come off for digging up this and then making light of it?
Could you be any more of an asshat?
If a liberal idiot that had 15 minutes of fame 15 years ago died, would you say the same thing if a conservative poster made a similar comment?
Especially when I didn't in any way make light of anything. I only pointed out, again, that the guy wasn't really a plumber. Nor did I really "dig" up anything. I did a one minute search here.
(This post was last modified: 08-30-2023 10:13 AM by Redwingtom.)
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
(08-30-2023 10:07 AM)AssKickingChicken Wrote: (08-30-2023 07:02 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (08-29-2023 09:58 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: A blast from the past....
Joe, not a, plumber...dies.
Joe the Plumber and His Afterlives
You don't see how creepy you come off for digging up this and then making light of it?
Could you be any more of an asshat?
If a liberal idiot that had 15 minutes of fame 15 years ago died, would you say the same thing if a conservative poster made a similar comment?
So, are you saying Joe, "The Plumber" was a Conservative "Idiot" for asking if his taxes would be affected?
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08-30-2023 10:19 AM |
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
This is how Tom is coping and seething with the thought of King Trump.
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08-30-2023 10:31 AM |
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Redwingtom
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
(08-30-2023 10:31 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: This is how Tom is coping and seething with the thought of King Trump.
If there's one thing you're a master of, it's loaded questions/comments like this moronic one.
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08-30-2023 11:33 AM |
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
I miss Rebel.
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08-30-2023 11:47 AM |
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Redwingtom
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
(08-30-2023 11:47 AM)fsquid Wrote: I miss Rebel.
Yeah...he was the likely the first poster here who voluntarily "banned" himself.
I miss him calling me "Lite-Brite".
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08-30-2023 11:56 AM |
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
(08-30-2023 11:47 AM)fsquid Wrote: I miss Rebel.
I've stayed in touch, although we haven't talked in a while. He gave me some really good advice on going to the Masters a few years back.
(This post was last modified: 08-30-2023 12:36 PM by Owl 69/70/75.)
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08-30-2023 12:36 PM |
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
(08-30-2023 12:36 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (08-30-2023 11:47 AM)fsquid Wrote: I miss Rebel.
I've stayed in touch, although we haven't talked in a while. He gave me some really good advice on going to the Masters a few years back.
I'd love to hear his opinion on the last election and everything surrounding it up through the current political climate.
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08-30-2023 12:38 PM |
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
(08-30-2023 11:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (08-30-2023 11:47 AM)fsquid Wrote: I miss Rebel.
Yeah...he was the likely the first poster here who voluntarily "banned" himself.
I miss him calling me "Lite-Brite".
And that was said prior to you trying to describe an insurance deductible.
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08-30-2023 12:42 PM |
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RE: Joe the Plumber Responds to the Debate
(08-30-2023 12:42 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: (08-30-2023 11:56 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: (08-30-2023 11:47 AM)fsquid Wrote: I miss Rebel.
Yeah...he was the likely the first poster here who voluntarily "banned" himself.
I miss him calling me "Lite-Brite".
And that was said prior to you trying to describe an insurance deductible.
And before you trying to understand the PRA and still ******* it up seven ways from Sunday. Or what posited means, or what the difference between search and spell-check is, or......
Troll, perhaps you should STFU about not understanding things? You're just about the king here on that. FFS, at least I have the stones to admit when I make a mistake, own up to it, and correct the record. You just keep doubling down like a clown.
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