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Time to take the gloves off
McCain has sat back and let Obama and his supporters attack, Bush, Palin, and himself. Its time to take the gloves off and make the media cover the real Obama. Time to educate the public about the friends Obama has like Rev Wright, Resko and Ayers. Obama's judgement in associating with these types hasn't been covered in the general election by the mainstream media. Obama was able to disown Wright when it wasn't to his own political advantage. Resko and Obama had shady land deals and Obama raised 14 million in earmarks for Resko while in the Illinois Senate. Ayers and Obama have met several times since 1995. The guy is a former terrorist who bombed the capital and pentagon and later said the 9/11 attack was justified. No wonder Obama would met with leaders of Cuba, Iran, North Korea with no conditions. He had no problem meeting with a domestic terrorist several times since 1995. This is about Obama's lack of judgement and ethical laspes.
10-05-2008 12:59 AM
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RE: Time to take the gloves off
I don't think that's going to work this time. It worked to the Republican's advantage in 1988 and 2004. But I think that most Americans are fed up with Willie Horton and Swiftboat-type politics, especially while the economy is tanking.

We'll see soon enough. It's pretty much McCain's only hope at this point. Unless the Republicans have some new October surprise to uncover, I don't think it's going to work in 2008.
10-05-2008 06:52 AM
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Tying Ayers to Obama is like Tying Jack Kemp to OJ Simpson. It's just not going to work.
10-06-2008 10:20 AM
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firmbizzle Wrote:Tying Ayers to Obama is like Tying Jack Kemp to OJ Simpson. It's just not going to work.

To those on the fence that are suspect of him, it most definitely can work.

Stick a campaign add up that quotes Ayers when he said of the day he bombed the Pentagon, “Everything was absolutely ideal. ... The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them.” Then make the FACTUAL statment that Obama kicked off his political career in Ayers living room for a fund raiser. Then ask the LOGICAL question is a man who was willing to take money raised out of a terrorists living room really have the judgement to be President?

That would work on many. And it should.
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10-06-2008 10:40 AM
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I got a call this morning from the McCain campaign reminding me to vote for McCain/Palin because the alternative would be dangerous. I'm scared.
10-06-2008 12:09 PM
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Ninerfan1 Wrote:
firmbizzle Wrote:Tying Ayers to Obama is like Tying Jack Kemp to OJ Simpson. It's just not going to work.

To those on the fence that are suspect of him, it most definitely can work.

Stick a campaign add up that quotes Ayers when he said of the day he bombed the Pentagon, “Everything was absolutely ideal. ... The sky was blue. The birds were singing. And the bastards were finally going to get what was coming to them.” Then make the FACTUAL statment that Obama kicked off his political career in Ayers living room for a fund raiser. Then ask the LOGICAL question is a man who was willing to take money raised out of a terrorists living room really have the judgement to be President?

That would work on many. And it should.

It would work on me.
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firmbizzle Wrote:I got a call this morning from the McCain campaign reminding me to vote for McCain/Palin because the alternative would be dangerous. I'm scared.

Unfortunately, that works on a lot of folks.
10-06-2008 12:53 PM
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OUBOBCATJOHN Wrote:McCain has sat back and let Obama and his supporters attack, Bush, Palin, and himself. Its time to take the gloves off and make the media cover the real Obama. Time to educate the public about the friends Obama has like Rev Wright, Resko and Ayers. Obama's judgement in associating with these types hasn't been covered in the general election by the mainstream media. Obama was able to disown Wright when it wasn't to his own political advantage. Resko and Obama had shady land deals and Obama raised 14 million in earmarks for Resko while in the Illinois Senate. Ayers and Obama have met several times since 1995. The guy is a former terrorist who bombed the capital and pentagon and later said the 9/11 attack was justified. No wonder Obama would met with leaders of Cuba, Iran, North Korea with no conditions. He had no problem meeting with a domestic terrorist several times since 1995. This is about Obama's lack of judgement and ethical laspes.

The only problem with the Ayers stuff is the timeline. He said all that stuff 6 years after he sat on a board with him, a University of Chicago board. If the University of Chicago was okay with Ayers, then why would Obama need to look up his background. I've never heard of Ayers before this year, and if the University of Chicago asked me to serve on a board with him I wouldn't have seen a problem either. It says more about the University of Chicago than it does about Obama. Resko did all this shady stuff after he helped Obama get his house, and after he did 10 hours of legal work for him. The rev. Wright didn't do anything illegal. He has some crazy views, and speeches. Just because you belong to a church, doesn't mean that you are going every sunday. If the predominately white United Church of Christ is giving him awards, then why would you question it? The whole point is that just because you have an association or a close friend that does something crazy or illegal after you met them doesn't make you responsible for their actions. That's like saying Jack Kemp hangs out with murderers because he played football with OJ Simpson in the 1970's. OJ murdered those people after he played football with Jack Kemp. Jack's not responsible.
10-06-2008 01:23 PM
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firmbizzle Wrote:I got a call this morning from the McCain campaign reminding me to vote for McCain/Palin because the alternative would be dangerous. I'm scared.

[Image: McCainPalinPutin.jpg]

Now, that is scary. 05-stirthepot
10-06-2008 02:04 PM
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firmbizzle Wrote:Resko and Obama had shady land deals

I've yet to see any proof of this assertion.

1. The deal could have gone down without Rezko.

While it's true that the couple who sold the house to the Obamas and the adjoining vacant lot to Rezko's wife required the deals to close on the same day, there was at least one other serious bidder on the lot.

2. The Obamas did not get a special discount on the house.

Yes, the original asking price was $1.95 million and the sale price was $1.65 million, but the sellers have confirmed that the sale price was the result of routine real estate negotiations and was the best offer they received on the house.

3. The sellers rejected two lower bids from the Obamas.

The Obamas first offered $1.3 million and then $1.5 million before agreeing with the sellers to the $1.65 million price.

4. The Rezkos did not pay an inflated price for the vacant lot.

Obama has said his broker told him another interested party had already put in a bid on the lot at or close to the asking price of $625,000. No one has challenged this assertion.

5. The Obamas did not get a special discount from the Rezkos when they later purchased a one-sixth strip of the vacant lot to enlarge their yard.

The price the Obamas paid, $104,500, was a neat one-sixth of the price of the lot and more than double the value Obama said his appraiser put on the strip. The remaining portion of the vacant lot reportedly sold earlier this year for $675,000.

6. The Obamas did not receive or borrow any money from the Rezkos to buy their house.

They took out a $1.3 million mortgage and paid the balance with proceeds from Obama's best-selling books.
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Obama may have had a few questionable acquaintances in the past but these aren't the people whose fingers are on the red button in the White House. John McCain's temper and odd gambles on the political campaign show an even stranger pattern of character. And it's not like he's turned into a grumpy old man - he's had a temper since he was a little kid pissed off that he was so tiny (he's the shortest presidential candidate since Michael Dukakis although I really can't say much about that since he's the same height as I am).

Check out rollingstone.com for his pattern of mistakes in the Navy and in his political career. Or today's Los Angeles Times. Rolling Stone says John McCain is a lot like George Bush. Except Bush is a better pilot.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-...3315.story
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