GGniner Wrote:a Libertarian Republican with an actual record of Reform at the executive level and getting rid of corruption. with an 80% approval rating

Ron Paul with tits? That just doesn't do a lot for me...

While I like the pick, it's yet another McCain two-face. McCain's usual attack on Paul was to label him Libertarian and Isolationist.

Besides... it's a Veep. She won't be doing a damn thing, unless somebody here has sifted through McLame's medical Library of Congress Wing warehouse records cabinets.

I45owl Wrote:

GGniner Wrote:a Libertarian Republican with an actual record of Reform at the executive level and getting rid of corruption. with an 80% approval rating

Ron Paul with tits? That just doesn't do a lot for me...

You realized you just directly implied GGniner is a supporter of Ron Paul. It wouldn't surprise me. Most GOP people going that far out of their way to bash something are closet supporters of it.

better than Paul, a Reagan Conservative.....she's not trying to Neuter the military and our FOreign Policy, or a wing nut that frames everything around the Fed Reserve domestic related.

Paul's an Anarcho-Capitalist anyway...thats different than what I mean.

http://libertarianrepublican.blogspot.co...orter.html

Palin strongly opposed Don Young's "Bridge to Nowhere".....Ron Paul supported it and endorsed Young which likely got him barely re-elected this week over a true limited Govt. conservative in Parnell....thouugh there may be a recount. Young is corrupt as hell..

Not addressing anyone in particular... but directly to a number of the above responses to my post...

You're thinking for yourself... you're not thinking as a disaffected voter.

Those who simply want a woman in office (and lets face it, there are some) get a double dose... A woman now, and a likely improved (at least in their minds) shot at 2012.

A pro-life woman will get more votes from pro-choice women than a pro-life man. A pro-life Republican woman will probably get more votes from pro-choice Democrat woman than a pro-choice Republican man... especially as VP. Palin's pro-life stance isn't a brick wall as it is for someone like Buchanan.

Those seeking to "excuse" Obama's inexperience will have to similarly excuse Palin's. Those who think Biden offsets Obama's inexperience will also see that McCain offsets Palin's... and who is at the top still matters. If we're voting for Biden's experience, then why aren't we electing him President??

Ooooh... just hear an admitted pro-Hillary newscaster say... what about experience?? She's raised 5 kids...that's enough experience for just about anything

This is bold... it is ballsy.... and while Obama will fight... (as he would ANY selection)... this is big for McCain.

He's OBVIOUSLY not afraid of surrounding himself with powerful women.

Palin's corruption charges will take center stage soon enough.

I don't know enough about it, but it sounds as if there is some question as to why her ex-brother-in-law was given the boot.

georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:

I45owl Wrote:

GGniner Wrote:a Libertarian Republican with an actual record of Reform at the executive level and getting rid of corruption. with an 80% approval rating

Ron Paul with tits? That just doesn't do a lot for me...

You realized you just directly implied GGniner is a supporter of Ron Paul. It wouldn't surprise me. Most GOP people going that far out of their way to bash something are closet supporters of it.

No, I was thinking more along the lines of Mrs. Garrison.

Hambone10 Wrote:A pro-life woman will get more votes from pro-choice women than a pro-life man. A pro-life Republican woman will probably get more votes from pro-choice Democrat woman than a pro-choice Republican man...

I can't disagree with this; I can only comment that I think you are talking about very small numbers. Just guessing: If there were 1 million Hillary voters thinking about voting for McCain, half of 'em were just convinced to vote for Obama.

http://www.vpilf.com

A modern populist conservative like himself...Id say McCain is showing lots of guts with this pick. She is seen as a maverick and a thorn in the side of the GOP in Alaska. One insider says..."The landscape is littered with the bodies of those that have crossed Sarah". ...Sounds like shes a pretty tough political battler.

Not enough to get me to bother to vote...but McCain has scored with this pick.

GRPunk Wrote:Palin's corruption charges will take center stage soon enough.

I don't know enough about it, but it sounds as if there is some question as to why her ex-brother-in-law was given the boot.

Quote:Palin is currently under legislative investigation herself, accused of firing the state's public safety commissioner for not firing her former brother-in-law.

"A legislative panel has launched a $100,000 investigation to determine if Palin dismissed Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire the trooper, Mike Wooten," the AP wrote earlier this month. "Wooten went through a messy divorce from Palin's sister. Palin has denied the commissioner's dismissal had anything to do with her former brother-in-law. And she denied orchestrating the dozens of telephone calls made by her husband and members of her administration to Wooten's bosses. Palin said she welcomes the investigation: 'Hold me accountable.'"

Although she's not linked to them, Sen. Ted Stevens and Rep. Don Young are facing legal/ethical troubles. In fact, Stevens' trial will start in late September, so the Alaska Republican Party is a mess. And Palin's trooper trouble could play into that.

Maybe she does have a little common sense.

Quote:August 4, 2008, Fairbanks, Alaska - Governor Sarah Palin today responded to the energy plan put forward by the presumptive Democratic nominee for President, Illinois Senator Barack Obama.

"I am pleased to see Senator Obama acknowledge the huge potential Alaska's natural gas reserves represent in terms of clean energy and sound jobs," Governor Palin said. "The steps taken by the Alaska State Legislature this past week demonstrate that we are ready, willing and able to supply the energy our nation needs."

In a speech given in Lansing, Michigan, Senator Obama called for the completion of the Alaska natural gas pipeline, stating, "Over the next five years, we should also lease more of the National Petroleum Reserve in Alaska for oil and gas production. And we should also tap more of our substantial natural gas reserves and work with the Canadian government to finally build the Alaska natural gas pipeline, delivering clean natural gas and creating good jobs in the process."

Governor Palin also acknowledged the Senator's proposal to offer $1,000 rebates to those struggling with the high cost of energy.

"We in Alaska feel that crunch and are taking steps to address it right here at home," Governor Palin said. "This is a tool that must be on the table to buy us time until our long-term energy plans can be put into place. We have already enjoyed the support of Alaska Senator Ted Stevens, and it is gratifying to see Senator Obama get on board."

cb4029 Wrote:

GRPunk Wrote:Palin's corruption charges will take center stage soon enough.

I don't know enough about it, but it sounds as if there is some question as to why her ex-brother-in-law was given the boot.

Quote:Palin is currently under legislative investigation herself, accused of firing the state's public safety commissioner for not firing her former brother-in-law.

"A legislative panel has launched a $100,000 investigation to determine if Palin dismissed Alaska's public safety commissioner because he would not fire the trooper, Mike Wooten," the AP wrote earlier this month. "Wooten went through a messy divorce from Palin's sister. Palin has denied the commissioner's dismissal had anything to do with her former brother-in-law. And she denied orchestrating the dozens of telephone calls made by her husband and members of her administration to Wooten's bosses. Palin said she welcomes the investigation: 'Hold me accountable.'"

Although she's not linked to them, Sen. Ted Stevens and Rep. Don Young are facing legal/ethical troubles. In fact, Stevens' trial will start in late September, so the Alaska Republican Party is a mess. And Palin's trooper trouble could play into that.

http://beyonddelay.citizensforethics.org/node/33604

The controversy now surrounding Ms. Palin stems from a messy divorce between state trooper Mike Wooten and his wife, Molly McCann, who is Ms. Palin's younger sister.

In 2005, Ms. Palin alleged to Mr. Wooten's supervisors that he had threatened to harm her sister and father and had engaged in numerous instances of misconduct, including using a stun gun on his 10-year-old stepson, according to state documents. In one instance, she told state investigators, she overheard him on the telephone threatening her sister: "I'm gonna f- shoot your dad. He's gonna get a lead bullet."

Mr. Wooten told investigators he tested a Taser stun gun on the boy at his request but never threatened the Palins. An internal police investigation substantiated the stun-gun incident and some other charges but threw out most of the rest. Mr. Wooten was suspended for five days in 2006. Through a spokesman with the Public Safety Employees Association, he declined to comment.

On July 11 of this year, Ms. Palin fired Department of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. Mr. Monegan then complained that she and her husband had pressured him to fire Mr. Wooten. Ms. Palin, in a statement, denied that, saying she had removed the commissioner she had appointed 18 months earlier because she wanted "a new direction."

I don't think that many people in America are going to think that a guy who (even if you buy his story) "tests" a stun gun on a 10 year old (especially while the parents are going through a divorce) needs to be carrying a badge.

IF she did what he claims, I don't blame her. I'd have done worse... and Obama certainly has.

Sounds like she represents real change and that MCcain is serious about reform in Washington. This was vintage MCcain. I wanted Romney, but Palin has that small town appeal that connects with average americans. Obama is a big city liberal legislater and doesn't have the executive experience that Palin brings as a mayor and governor. Mayor and governor must make appointments, fire people, set budgets, and negotiate contracts. Being a legislater/Senator is so easy that its members can campaign non stop for two years and just vote the party line. A Governor/mayor has to make decisions on a daily basis. She had done more in her time as Governor than Obama has done in the senate. Name a bill of Obama's that passed into law.

You guys harp on Obama for "inexperience", and then gush over the mayor of a "town" of 5,000 and just 2 years as a governor of an unpopulated state, who is now 2nd in line to a potential commander in chief? She openely admitted in an interview today she dosent even know what a VP does. WTF?!

Oh, excuse me. She has a B.S. in journalism and was a basketball coach!

niuhuskie84 Wrote:You guys harp on Obama for "inexperience", and then gush over the mayor of a "town" of 5,000 and just 2 years as a governor of an unpopulated state, who is now 2nd in line to a potential commander in chief? She openely admitted in an interview today she dosent even know what a VP does. WTF?!

Oh, excuse me. She has a B.S. in journalism and was a basketball coach!

She has more experience at the Executive Level than Obama, and arguably more Foreign Affairs experience(dealing with Canada). Either way, she is only the VP, Obama is running for CinC with zero experience while McCain has more than any of them.

btw, Alaska is about the same size as Delaware...Biden's state. She actually Governs though, Biden is just a windbag, Washington insider and Senator.

After 4 to 8 yrs as VP, she'll have that much more experience than Obama currently has.

Obama voted for the Bridge to Knowhere in Alaska, Palin stopped it.

but yeah, lets compare Experience.

Obama vs. McCain for CinC

Palin vs. Biden for VP


I'll take that debate any day, Obama walked into a mess bringing this line of attack up.

I was listening to radio the other day, and someone mentioned that in '88 Biden ran for the Dem nomination for President. He was doing well into it was proven that he had stolen/plagiarized a speech from a British politician. The funny thing with Biden is just how critical he was of Obama earlier in the year, and now he is just so happy.

1) I love the pick of Palin -- someone fresh, a social conservative, easy on the eyes. And has more Executive Level experience than either Biden or Obama. Add in the fact she belongs to a union and all of a sudden, states like Pennsylvania have some thinking to do.

2) I'm glad McCain didn't choose Romney -- it would have negated the beautifully played ads he ran using Hillary's words against Obama.

3) If we're going to talk about becoming independent of Middle East oil, we need to be drilling in ANWR. Given the fact a majority of the country feels this way, choosing Palin and putting Alaska in play was smart.

4) Given the fact Palin experienced than Obama from an Executive Level point of view, I could live with her serving as Prez if McCain's age somehow caught up with him.

Well played, McCain.

Hambone10 Wrote:Not addressing anyone in particular... but directly to a number of the above responses to my post...

You're thinking for yourself... you're not thinking as a disaffected voter.

Those who simply want a woman in office (and lets face it, there are some) get a double dose... A woman now, and a likely improved (at least in their minds) shot at 2012.

A pro-life woman will get more votes from pro-choice women than a pro-life man. A pro-life Republican woman will probably get more votes from pro-choice Democrat woman than a pro-choice Republican man... especially as VP. Palin's pro-life stance isn't a brick wall as it is for someone like Buchanan.

Those seeking to "excuse" Obama's inexperience will have to similarly excuse Palin's. Those who think Biden offsets Obama's inexperience will also see that McCain offsets Palin's... and who is at the top still matters. If we're voting for Biden's experience, then why aren't we electing him President??

Ooooh... just hear an admitted pro-Hillary newscaster say... what about experience?? She's raised 5 kids...that's enough experience for just about anything

This is bold... it is ballsy.... and while Obama will fight... (as he would ANY selection)... this is big for McCain.

He's OBVIOUSLY not afraid of surrounding himself with powerful women.

Well stated, sir.
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