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Which VP candidate said the following?
October 30, 2007: “The Republican who’s qualified to be POTUS is John McCain.”


August 2, 2005: “John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off, be well off no matter who...”


November 27, 2005: “I’ve been calling for more troops for over two years, along with John McCain and others subsequent to my saying that.”


September 13, 2007: “My impression is [Obama] thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany” of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. “I’ve seen zero evidence of that.”
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Hillary Dillary Dock???
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RE: Which VP candidate said the following?
Joe Leiberman.
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RE: Which VP candidate said the following?
It's Joe Biden.
08-21-2008 10:58 AM
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RE: Which VP candidate said the following?
Without looking it up... Really?? Biden?? I'd think that pretty well disqualify him (the last one)

The rest can be explained away... He's the best Republican and a good man... but he's not as good as ________ (D)

That last one pretty well puts him at the polar opposite of Obama's philosophy on foriegn policy it seems...
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Hambone10 Wrote:Without looking it up... Really?? Biden?? I'd think that pretty well disqualify him (the last one)

The rest can be explained away... He's the best Republican and a good man... but he's not as good as ________ (D)

That last one pretty well puts him at the polar opposite of Obama's philosophy on foriegn policy it seems...

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perunapower Wrote:
Hambone10 Wrote:Without looking it up... Really?? Biden?? I'd think that pretty well disqualify him (the last one)

The rest can be explained away... He's the best Republican and a good man... but he's not as good as ________ (D)

That last one pretty well puts him at the polar opposite of Obama's philosophy on foriegn policy it seems...

This looks like the site that NC Herd Fan picked these quotes from.

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thanks... obviously you can get beyond anything to win an election... but if he picks Biden, and I were against him... I think I'd hammer on that last one...

He thinks the Iraqi's will cease to war amongst themselves... and by extension, that the radical muslims will suddenly not think killing infidels is the path to Paradise. I don't know if Obama believes that or not... but it would certainly "control" the conversation.
08-21-2008 12:34 PM
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RE: Which VP candidate said the following?
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perunapower Wrote:
Hambone10 Wrote:Without looking it up... Really?? Biden?? I'd think that pretty well disqualify him (the last one)

The rest can be explained away... He's the best Republican and a good man... but he's not as good as ________ (D)

That last one pretty well puts him at the polar opposite of Obama's philosophy on foriegn policy it seems...

This looks like the site that NC Herd Fan picked these quotes from.

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thanks... obviously you can get beyond anything to win an election... but if he picks Biden, and I were against him... I think I'd hammer on that last one...

He thinks the Iraqi's will cease to war amongst themselves... and by extension, that the radical muslims will suddenly not think killing infidels is the path to Paradise. I don't know if Obama believes that or not... but it would certainly "control" the conversation.

Wow - I hadn't thought that would be Joe Biden, but I could see it. I was sure that sounded like Lieberman. Good call, pony!
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RE: Which VP candidate said the following?
perunapower Wrote:
Hambone10 Wrote:Without looking it up... Really?? Biden?? I'd think that pretty well disqualify him (the last one)

The rest can be explained away... He's the best Republican and a good man... but he's not as good as ________ (D)

That last one pretty well puts him at the polar opposite of Obama's philosophy on foriegn policy it seems...

This looks like the site that NC Herd Fan picked these quotes from.

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Yes and I think that should end the Biden for VP speculation.
08-21-2008 06:09 PM
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RE: Which VP candidate said the following?
On McCain:
Biden, on a post-debate appearance on MSNBC, October 30, 2007: “The only guy on the other side who’s qualified is John McCain.”

Biden appearing on The Daily Show, August 2, 2005: “John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off, be well off no matter who...

On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “I’ve been calling for more troops for over two years, along with John McCain and others subsequent to my saying that.”

So does Obama's today announcement essentially mean the Obama campaign endorses McCain??? 05-stirthepot

I don't see Biden as the "game changer" Obama needed. He won't make a difference in any battleground state. Biden couldn't even win much support in trying to run for president.
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THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:On McCain:
Biden, on a post-debate appearance on MSNBC, October 30, 2007: “The only guy on the other side who’s qualified is John McCain.”

Biden appearing on The Daily Show, August 2, 2005: “John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off, be well off no matter who...

On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “I’ve been calling for more troops for over two years, along with John McCain and others subsequent to my saying that.”

So does Obama's today announcement essentially mean the Obama campaign endorses McCain??? 05-stirthepot

I don't see Biden as the "game changer" Obama needed. He won't make a difference in any battleground state. Biden couldn't even win much support in trying to run for president.

Think we'll see and hear any of these soundbytes over the next few months?
08-23-2008 07:43 AM
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So what does McCain do now?

For a long time (like since 2005) my ideal republican ticket for 2008 has been McCain-Lieberman. I guess that's the centrist in me. There are those who say that would rip the republican party apart, and I find that sad. Perhaps a worse problem is that they are both so heavily tied up in the Iraq war that this could become a one-issue campagin, and perhaps not the issue that they'd like to see. One possible advantage of Lieberman, if he won, his replacement would be appointed by a republican governor which would help with the Senate. In the short run, if he decided to caucus with the republicans, they would retake voting control of the senate briefly, and if the republicans could get enough centrist democrats to avoid a filibuster, and could push through a "drill here, drill here" plan that Pelosi would have to do something with before the election, that could be a way to make more hay out of what has been their best issue. Might even save another senate seat or two in the process.

Right now I think there is strong sentiment in the country that we need a centrist, consensus-builder. Obama has gotten a lot of mileage by claiming to be that, but his record clearly shows that he isn't. McCain has actually been that, but his party doesn't seem willing to let him run on that. Lieberman would be a step toward reclaiming that position, and I think he'd pick up more votes than he'd lose (not to mention that the votes he picks up would otherwise vote for Obama, while the votes he'd lose won't). As I've said before, I like the kind of president that Obama describes in his stump speeches; but a look at his record, or the proposed policies on his web site, reveal very quickly that Obama isn't describing himself when he makes those speeches.

If not Lieberman, then I think his primary consideration needs to be who can pick up a key state or who can help with a key voting block.

Would Romney deliver Michgan? Would he have any influence toward making Massachusetts close enough that at least Obama would have to spend some resources there? Will the religious right hold ranks behind a Mormon on the ticket?

Would Ridge deliver Pennsylvania? Would the religious right tolerate a pro-choice VP? Do you have the same risk of turing this into a one-issue election given Ridge's homeland security background?

Would Pawlenty deliver Minnesota? Is he well enough known in the region to help with any adjoining states?

What about Palin? Given the extent of Obama's rejection of Hillary, and the fact that Obama and McCain are virtually a dead heat with women voters (per a poll I saw yesterday), does Palin turn enough women voters to help out in any key states? She's certainly a fresher face than Biden, and that could stem or offset a bit of the Obamamania. She's socially conservative enough to keep that wing in line. And she is definitely strong on energy. Obvious weakness is that she doesn't bring any key states with her, but the women angle might more than offset that. Another thought is that if Biden tries to go attack dog on her, that could rub a lot of people the wrong way.

I guess I'm just not that excited about Romney or Pawlenty, I don't think Ridge will fly, and Palin kinda gets my attention in several ways.
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THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:On McCain:
Biden, on a post-debate appearance on MSNBC, October 30, 2007: “The only guy on the other side who’s qualified is John McCain.”

Biden appearing on The Daily Show, August 2, 2005: “John McCain is a personal friend, a great friend, and I would be honored to run with or against John McCain, because I think the country would be better off, be well off no matter who...

On Meet the Press, November 27, 2005: “I’ve been calling for more troops for over two years, along with John McCain and others subsequent to my saying that.”

So does Obama's today announcement essentially mean the Obama campaign endorses McCain??? 05-stirthepot

I don't see Biden as the "game changer" Obama needed. He won't make a difference in any battleground state. Biden couldn't even win much support in trying to run for president.

Think we'll see and hear any of these soundbytes over the next few months?

I think this was a terrible choice for Obama. If people wanted and valued Biden's experience he would have been the Democrat nominee. Biden's arrogance will not play well in the south. He probably doesn't help in Ohio and other Swing States if McCain picks someone that can deliver Ohio or Michigan he may well win. If the Republican's first goal is to keep the Democrats out of the Whitehouse, Liberman might be the best pick.
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Am I the only one that doesn't see the big deal in VP choice? They way the media played it up you'd think this was the greatest announcement of the 21st century. But then you build up to it and it's Joe Biden? 03-yawn
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VP isn't really that important I don't guess... but clearly, some people will decide based upon even less important nuances. I DO think it matters to enough people to impact the outcome... and given the wide variety of quotes by Biden praising McCain and knocking Obama, this one puzzles me. He says he is about change... not politics as usual... and then announces a 30 year Senator insider as his VP?? I would think doing so would be a good thing, unless you have spent the last few months telling everyone that Washington is broken, and that is why you can't vote for McCain... Well, sounds to me like Obama just voted for a man quite similar in his "insidedness" to McCain. The fact that he takes a train "home" to Delaware isn't that big a deal... I know people with longer commutes on 495, and not enough to convince me that he doesn't think just like everyone else in Washington.
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