This is a great move if we can get him- I'll definitely try to get some tickets for some games even if they can just win only about 35-36 games...at least they are trying hard to show a commitment to the fans.

........Ron Tillary just said that Josh Smith doesn't want to play in Atlanta anymore!!

BigTigerMike Wrote:This is a great move if we can get him- I'll definitely try to get some tickets for some games even if they can just win only about 35-36 games...at least they are trying hard to show a commitment to the fans.

........Ron Tillary just said that Josh Smith doesn't want to play in Atlanta anymore!!

Great news. A starting lineup with Gay, Conley, Mayo, and Josh Smith sounds pretty exciting.

according to the Grizz board, a offer sheet CAN be rescinded for a sign and trade...

TigerDrew Wrote:

BigTigerMike Wrote:This is a great move if we can get him- I'll definitely try to get some tickets for some games even if they can just win only about 35-36 games...at least they are trying hard to show a commitment to the fans.

........Ron Tillary just said that Josh Smith doesn't want to play in Atlanta anymore!!

Great news. A starting lineup with Gay, Conley, Mayo, and Josh Smith sounds pretty exciting.

I like that a lot......and to just think if we didn't trade Pau?

we would be still trying to build around him!

BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:

georgiatiger Wrote:

BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Not to mention the fact that I'd much rather have Josh Smith, a proven NBA starter, over Kevin Love.

Chris Wallace is looking smarter every day.

Really?

Oh crap. Here we go again.

Nah. I've stated my opinion and we'll see who becomes the better NBA player. Not sure why TOGC felt the need to throw Kevin Love's name in the mix. They're two COMPLETELY different players and btw, Smith is MUCH more of a 3 than a 4. He plays from 15ft and out most often. Not exactly what I call a PF. Oh, and I thought Darrell Arthur was THE "great move" in reference to filling the Grizz's PF spot? My how things change in a month

BTW, I like Smith's game and potential.

Picking up Mayo and Arthur, while freeing up more cap space to sign Josh Smith was a much better move than drafting Love and making no moves at all.

Love will be a bust. Mark it down.

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Picking up Mayo and Arthur, while freeing up more cap space to sign Josh Smith was a much better move than drafting Love and making no moves at all.

Love will be a bust. Mark it down.

I agree with the first sentence but think Love will contribute to his team though he won't be an all-star. I will be completely shocked if Atlanta doesn't match the Grizz offer.

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Picking up Mayo and Arthur, while freeing up more cap space to sign Josh Smith was a much better move than drafting Love and making no moves at all.

Love will be a bust. Mark it down.

Love won't be a bust. Love will never be a great player. He'll put in his years, he'll be a solid contributor wherever he goes, maybe even make an all-star game a time or two. He'll never be a perennial all-star. But he won't be a bust.

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:

georgiatiger Wrote:

BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Not to mention the fact that I'd much rather have Josh Smith, a proven NBA starter, over Kevin Love.

Chris Wallace is looking smarter every day.

Really?

Oh crap. Here we go again.

Nah. I've stated my opinion and we'll see who becomes the better NBA player. Not sure why TOGC felt the need to throw Kevin Love's name in the mix. They're two COMPLETELY different players and btw, Smith is MUCH more of a 3 than a 4. He plays from 15ft and out most often. Not exactly what I call a PF. Oh, and I thought Darrell Arthur was THE "great move" in reference to filling the Grizz's PF spot? My how things change in a month

BTW, I like Smith's game and potential.

Picking up Mayo and Arthur, while freeing up more cap space to sign Josh Smith was a much better move than drafting Love and making no moves at all.

Love will be a bust. Mark it down.

Funny how you say "drafting Love and MAKING NO MOVES AT ALL" as if you know what would have happened if they kept Love. Silly........

BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:

georgiatiger Wrote:

BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Not to mention the fact that I'd much rather have Josh Smith, a proven NBA starter, over Kevin Love.

Chris Wallace is looking smarter every day.

Really?

Oh crap. Here we go again.

Nah. I've stated my opinion and we'll see who becomes the better NBA player. Not sure why TOGC felt the need to throw Kevin Love's name in the mix. They're two COMPLETELY different players and btw, Smith is MUCH more of a 3 than a 4. He plays from 15ft and out most often. Not exactly what I call a PF. Oh, and I thought Darrell Arthur was THE "great move" in reference to filling the Grizz's PF spot? My how things change in a month

BTW, I like Smith's game and potential.

Picking up Mayo and Arthur, while freeing up more cap space to sign Josh Smith was a much better move than drafting Love and making no moves at all.

Love will be a bust. Mark it down.

Funny how you say "drafting Love and MAKING NO MOVES AT ALL" as if you know what would have happened if they kept Love. Silly........

If they stuck with Love, they would also still have Miller at the 2 and no OJ Mayo. That would've also put their cap a bit higher, and made free agent moves more difficult.

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:

georgiatiger Wrote:

BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:

the other Greg Childers Wrote:Not to mention the fact that I'd much rather have Josh Smith, a proven NBA starter, over Kevin Love.

Chris Wallace is looking smarter every day.

Really?

Oh crap. Here we go again.

Nah. I've stated my opinion and we'll see who becomes the better NBA player. Not sure why TOGC felt the need to throw Kevin Love's name in the mix. They're two COMPLETELY different players and btw, Smith is MUCH more of a 3 than a 4. He plays from 15ft and out most often. Not exactly what I call a PF. Oh, and I thought Darrell Arthur was THE "great move" in reference to filling the Grizz's PF spot? My how things change in a month

BTW, I like Smith's game and potential.

Picking up Mayo and Arthur, while freeing up more cap space to sign Josh Smith was a much better move than drafting Love and making no moves at all.

Love will be a bust. Mark it down.

Funny how you say "drafting Love and MAKING NO MOVES AT ALL" as if you know what would have happened if they kept Love. Silly........

If they stuck with Love, they would also still have Miller at the 2 and no OJ Mayo. That would've also put their cap a bit higher, and made free agent moves more difficult.

You mean Miller , that "PROVEN NBA STARTER" ? Funny how that works, HUH?

And, again, how do you know similar trades wouldn't have happened if they kept Love?

BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:You mean Miller , that "PROVEN NBA STARTER" ? Funny how that works, HUH?

And, again, how do you know similar trades wouldn't have happened if they kept Love?

Mike Miller is 28, and his best years are behind him.
Josh Smith is 22, and has his best years ahead of him.

Not to mention the fact that the Grizzlies biggest need area was in the frontcourt.

If they had kept Love, they wouldn't have made a play for Smith. Or Mayo.

the other Greg Childers Wrote:

BIGGESTTIGERJLB Wrote:You mean Miller , that "PROVEN NBA STARTER" ? Funny how that works, HUH?

And, again, how do you know similar trades wouldn't have happened if they kept Love?

Mike Miller is 28, and his best years are behind him.
Josh Smith is 22, and has his best years ahead of him.

Not to mention the fact that the Grizzlies biggest need area was in the frontcourt.

If they had kept Love, they wouldn't have made a play for Smith. Or Mayo.

You're not making sense TOGC. Make up your mind.

dexterreed Wrote:

linkinpark Wrote:Yes! because the Griz are really hurting at the 2/3.............

Maybe you're thinking of J.R. Smith.

Yes that's probably it. Ok a PF, that's a whole different ballpark.
I love to see the Griz active, and he does sound like a very good fit for the team!
I'm rootin for my hometown Grizz! (and I'll do my research first next time)

well josh smith is not comming to memphis because the hawks matched the offer

I didn't see the match coming at all.

Can the Grizzlies do a sign and trade?

The Hawks formally announced last night that they have matched the offer.

At least the Grizzlies showed interest. Josh Smith is a great young player...and fwiw... I would take him any day over KLove, especially given the playing style Iavaroni wants to employ.

I think KLove will be an ok NBA role player, but not a star. I could be wrong though..I could also see him developing into a Karl Malone type player if he works hard...but I really doubt it..

The Josh Smith deal looks like a mute point. Kudos to the Grizzle for trying though..

Even though I think Kobe is only doing this as a ploy to get more money out of the Lakers, it would be interesting if he did play overseas. That #1 draft pick in next year's draft from the Lakers as part of the Gasol deal would suddenly get a whole lot better.

Quote:Kobe says Europe a possibility

By Adrian Wojnarowski

BEIJING – Kobe Bryant won’t sign a contract extension with the Los Angeles Lakers until he has tested the global market, the U.S. Olympic basketball star told Yahoo! Sports on Saturday.

Asked whether he plans to solicit overseas offers before signing an extension, Bryant flatly said yes.

It’s possible Bryant could leave the NBA for Europe – perhaps in a dual role of owner and player – as early as next summer. Bryant is signed with the Lakers through the 2010-11 season, but can opt out after next season.

Suddenly, the best player in the world seems determined to pair the changing global economics with his unparalleled popularity to create an international bidding war. A day earlier, Bryant told the Boston Globe that he would consider a $50 million offer to play in Europe.

“As players, the business of the game (is) evolving,” Bryant said before a Team USA practice at Beijing Normal University. “I think free agency now is becoming a global thing …. When players become free agents, the team they’re currently with – their competition is no longer the rest of the teams in the NBA. But it’s global. So, the market’s opened up. So we’ll just have to see how the league responds to it.”

Bryant spent several years of his childhood in Italy and loves it there. Seven years ago, he bought an ownership stake in Olimpia Milano of the Italian league for his father Joe to run. When Bryant was asked whether he held intrigue with owning and playing on a team together, he said, “Absolutely.”

Some basketball executives believe Bryant’s ultimate ambition might be to have a majority ownership with a powerhouse Italian team while serving as its superstar. What’s more, Bryant, 29, insists that it wouldn’t be such a leap of faith for him to leave the NBA.

“I think people kind of make it out to be a little more than what it is,” he said.

With the Lakers’ resurgence and Bryant having won his first most valuable player award last season, it was believed that he would sign a long-term, maximum contract without pursuing unrestricted free agency. Now, Bryant is suggesting that the possibility of a monumental European offer – perhaps paired with ownership – has armed him with fresh leverage.

This summer, the movement of players to Europe – as well as a belief that several European teams are gearing up to lure NBA superstars with contracts worth $30- to $40 million annually – has made him believe that this could be an option for him. Josh Childress of the Atlanta Hawks signed a three-year, $20 million deal with Olympiakos of Greece. Several other good NBA players, including Carlos Delfino and Juan Carlos Navarro, left the NBA for multi-million dollar European offers.

“Childress, Delfino, and all these other offers start coming up and all of a sudden you start hearing the talk circulating from teams over there and what they’re willing to do,” Bryant said. “As athletes, you have to listen to that. That’s the least you can do.”

Even so, Bryant conceded that it would be “Almost impossible … very difficult …” to leave the Lakers, who are primed to make a run at multiple championships over the next several years.

“But,” he said cryptically, “it is what it is.”