MikeSpicer Wrote:

epasnoopy Wrote:

mattsarz Wrote:

epasnoopy Wrote:I can't even find an email for Rick Chryst, how am i suppose to find a phone number?

so Rick Chryst's email should be RChyst@mac-sports.com

Tried it, the email got shot back to me as undelivered. I don't think he wants people emailing him.

Did you add the r to his last name? It was left out of the post.

Good eye! I didn't see that. I'll try it now.

Chryst is the best commish we have had in 30-years. Only Karl Benson would compare and he did not do for the MAC what Rick Chryst has done.

Now - has Rick made mistakes? Absolutely, mainly adding Temple with no one else and creating this annual 13-game football scheduling head ache.

Still, he has been solid for this league and we've been lucky to have him. My goodness, if Jerry Ippoliti was still our commish we would be lucky to have one bowl bid, and still be playing our basketball tourney at the old SeaGate Centre in downtown Toledo in front of 2,800 fans.

Vandelay Wrote:Chryst is the best commish we have had in 30-years. Only Karl Benson would compare and he did not do for the MAC what Rick Chryst has done.

Now - has Rick made mistakes? Absolutely, mainly adding Temple with no one else and creating this annual 13-game football scheduling head ache.

Still, he has been solid for this league and we've been lucky to have him. My goodness, if Jerry Ippoliti was still our commish we would be lucky to have one bowl bid, and still be playing our basketball tourney at the old SeaGate Centre in downtown Toledo in front of 2,800 fans.

Well said.

Rick may well be right with the Temple deal and the exclusive partnernship with ESPN. The MAC's ability to pick up a syndicated package from the Big Ten was built on years of trust.

He's kept the conference together in light of pressures to force the MAC out of the game like the attendance rule. He's improved the TV package despite Marshall moving on.

In the MAC everything has to be done just right. If you play the conference tournament in Detroit instead of Cleveland it wouldn't work. MAC schools will never take 10,000 to a bowl game in California.

Rick still has some work to do to yet. The MAC has always had some big hurdles to overcome. CUSA by comparison is an easy job, they have 12 members, plenty of bowls, and good fanbases to work with.

I would like to see Ricky make a few more changes.

1. Secondary basketball deal with CBS Sports. The A-10, MVC, CUSA, and MWC all have one in place.

2. Move MAC football back to Saturdays. Weekday games are killing fan support.

3. A 4th bowl for the MAC.

4. Kick out EMU in 2010 to make room for Temple all-sports. I would prefer that we drop EMU instead of a 14th. I'm only trying to prevent a MAC split here or defections to CUSA if we grow too big.

Vandelay Wrote:Chryst is the best commish we have had in 30-years. Only Karl Benson would compare and he did not do for the MAC what Rick Chryst has done.

Now - has Rick made mistakes? Absolutely, mainly adding Temple with no one else and creating this annual 13-game football scheduling head ache.

Still, he has been solid for this league and we've been lucky to have him. My goodness, if Jerry Ippoliti was still our commish we would be lucky to have one bowl bid, and still be playing our basketball tourney at the old SeaGate Centre in downtown Toledo in front of 2,800 fans.

Could you please set some facts straight with our ESPN deal?

How much are we being paid total and per year on our deal?

Does the deal expire in 2010?

Does Chryst have any initiative or goal to have the MAC look into partnerships with other national television stations (CSTV, Versus, etc.)?

Why is he not demanding that our games be played on ESPN or ESPN2 instead of ESPN360 or ESPNU?

Let them put other MAC games on ESPNU or ESPN360, not good games like NIU-BSU, CMU-NIU, Toledo-Akron, etc. We should be getting the same amount of ESPN (not ESPN Classic, ESPNU, or ESPN360) games, if not more, as CUSA and WAC.

epasnoopy Wrote:Let them put other MAC games on ESPNU or ESPN360, not good games like NIU-BSU, CMU-NIU, Toledo-Akron, etc. We should be getting the same amount of ESPN (not ESPN Classic, ESPNU, or ESPN360) games, if not more, as CUSA and WAC.

We actually have more conference games on ESPN/2 than CUSA this season and the same amount as the WAC.

I don't know where you are getting the idea that the good MAC games are NIU-BSU, CMU-NIU (niu fan?).

The good MAC games are always Akron-Kent, CMU-WMU and BG-Toledo. Games like that are the ones ESPN should be televising on the duece Friday night. Ohio-Temple on Tuesday night in front of 10 fans is a waste of time for the league.

What does the MAC do with its championships? It goes with its strengths, a bowl in Detroit (CMU, WMU, UT, BG) and basketball in Cleveland (UA, KSU, OU). During the football regular season the MAC has a few games that draw well consistently. Why not focus the TV package on CMU-WMU, BG-UT, MU-OU and try to elevate to Friday night broadcasts?

The MAC has plenty of regional TV now for its football games. Almost every conference game is televised on some cable outlet. Control is needed over the national schedule. The MAC needs to tell ESPN no to mid week and yes to a Saturday ESPN Classic package.

Airport KC Wrote:

epasnoopy Wrote:Let them put other MAC games on ESPNU or ESPN360, not good games like NIU-BSU, CMU-NIU, Toledo-Akron, etc. We should be getting the same amount of ESPN (not ESPN Classic, ESPNU, or ESPN360) games, if not more, as CUSA and WAC.

We actually have more conference games on ESPN/2 than CUSA this season and the same amount as the WAC.

But CUSA has more ESPN-only appearances total so far than us. I'm not just talking about conference games.

Airport KC Wrote:I don't know where you are getting the idea that the good MAC games are NIU-BSU, CMU-NIU (niu fan?).

You're knit-picking. I mentioned more than the NIU games.

Airport KC Wrote:The good MAC games are always Akron-Kent, CMU-WMU and BG-Toledo. Games like that are the ones ESPN should be televising on the duece Friday night. Ohio-Temple on Tuesday night in front of 10 fans is a waste of time for the league.

There's more than that. Most games at NIU, WMU, CMU, and Toledo look good and are played in front of the most fans. As indicated by these four MAC teams having the highest attendance averages most of the time.

Airport KC Wrote:The MAC has plenty of regional TV now for its football games. Almost every conference game is televised on some cable outlet.

Tell that to WMU, CMU, EMU, and BSU which just lost Comcast Local as their regional outlet.

Airport KC Wrote:

epasnoopy Wrote:Let them put other MAC games on ESPNU or ESPN360, not good games like NIU-BSU, CMU-NIU, Toledo-Akron, etc. We should be getting the same amount of ESPN (not ESPN Classic, ESPNU, or ESPN360) games, if not more, as CUSA and WAC.

We actually have more conference games on ESPN/2 than CUSA this season and the same amount as the WAC.

I don't know where you are getting the idea that the good MAC games are NIU-BSU, CMU-NIU (niu fan?).

The good MAC games are always Akron-Kent, CMU-WMU and BG-Toledo. Games like that are the ones ESPN should be televising on the duece Friday night. Ohio-Temple on Tuesday night in front of 10 fans is a waste of time for the league.

What does the MAC do with its championships? It goes with its strengths, a bowl in Detroit (CMU, WMU, UT, BG) and basketball in Cleveland (UA, KSU, OU). During the football regular season the MAC has a few games that draw well consistently. Why not focus the TV package on CMU-WMU, BG-UT, MU-OU and try to elevate to Friday night broadcasts?

The MAC has plenty of regional TV now for its football games. Almost every conference game is televised on some cable outlet. Control is needed over the national schedule. The MAC needs to tell ESPN no to mid week and yes to a Saturday ESPN Classic package.

Are you kidding me? Outside of Ohio, noone wants to see to two Ohio teams playing each other. I would rather see Temple play any of the Ohio MAC teams than see them play each other - honestly.

Would you like to see a matchup of Eastern Illinois vs Western Illinois if you are from Ohio? I didn't think so.

I would set it up with ESPN like this:

Options for ESPN/2 on Friday night.

Akron-KSU
BGSU-UT
CMU-WMU
MU-OU
UB-Temple
BSU-NIU

Tell ESPN to pick 4 of those rivalry games for Friday night. Let's say this year they select CMU-WMU, MU-OU, UB-Temple, BSU-NIU.

Options for ESPN Classic Saturday.

MU-BSU
UB-OU
CMU-BSU
BSU-UT
CMU-EMU
CMU-OU
MU-BGSU
MU-KSU
BGSU-OU
BGSU-KSU
UB-KSU

ESPN Classic picks up 8 of the top projected conference matchups for the season. This year it would be mostly BSU or Miami games which is fair because you have to put your best programs forward.

After Classic selects fill in the syndicated package, regional packages, local packages and so on down the line with the remaining games.

prairiedawg Wrote:Are you kidding me? Outside of Ohio, noone wants to see to two Ohio teams playing each other. I would rather see Temple play any of the Ohio MAC teams than see them play each other - honestly.

Would you like to see a matchup of Eastern Illinois vs Western Illinois if you are from Ohio? I didn't think so.

Hmmm.

I didn't think of a FBS matchup of BG/UT in front of 25,000 fans with a bowl bid on the line was the same as EIU/WIU in front of 5,000.

I was thinking the combination of top rivalry+good crowd was what we should be promoting. I know there are places outside and inside of Ohio that aren't going to care if BG/UT is on but that is just the way it is. It comes down to what looks good for TV.

I like the idea of Buffalo-Temple on a Friday night instead of Ohio-Temple on a Tuesday. Or Akron-Kent on a Friday night insead of Toledo-Akron on a Wednesday. It makes so much more sense for the MAC.

epasnoopy Wrote:But CUSA has more ESPN-only appearances total so far than us. I'm not just talking about conference games.

CUSA and the MAC both have 16 appearances on ESPN/2

MAC ESPN/2 Apperances
Navy @ Ball State (1)
Ohio @ Temple (3)
Miami @ Buffalo (5)
NIU/BSU OR Akron/UT (7)
BSU @ Miami (9)
CMU/NIU OR Temple/KSU (11)
BSU @ CMU (13)
Navy @ NIU (14)
MAC Championship (16)

MAC ESPN Classic Appearances
Temple @ Army (1)
Akron @ Army (2)
EMU @ Army (3)
OU/MU OR UT/BGSU (5)

MAC ESPNU Appearances
Buffalo @ Ohio (2)
NIU/BSU OR Akron/UT (4)
Buffalo @ Akron (6)
OU/MU OR UT/BGSU (8)

On those nights with two games, 1 game will be on ESPN2 and 1 will not.

MAC has 29 total appearances on an ESPN network, 16 of which are on ESPN/2. CUSA has 16 on ESPN/2, WAC 15.

Airport KC Wrote:

epasnoopy Wrote:But CUSA has more ESPN-only appearances total so far than us. I'm not just talking about conference games.

CUSA and the MAC both have 16 appearances on ESPN/2

MAC ESPN/2 Apperances
Navy @ Ball State (1)
Ohio @ Temple (3)
Miami @ Buffalo (5)
NIU/BSU OR Akron/UT (7)
BSU @ Miami (9)
CMU/NIU OR Temple/KSU (11)
BSU @ CMU (13)
Navy @ NIU (14)
MAC Championship (16)

MAC ESPN Classic Appearances
Temple @ Army (1)
Akron @ Army (2)
EMU @ Army (3)
OU/MU OR UT/BGSU (5)

MAC ESPNU Appearances
Buffalo @ Ohio (2)
NIU/BSU OR Akron/UT (4)
Buffalo @ Akron (6)
OU/MU OR UT/BGSU (8)

On those nights with two games, 1 game will be on ESPN2 and 1 will not.

MAC has 29 total appearances on an ESPN network, 16 of which are on ESPN/2. CUSA has 16 on ESPN/2, WAC 15.

Where are you getting 29 games when you only have 17 listed?

Also, where are you getting 16 games for CUSA? All i see are 10 games, all of which are on ESPN (numero uno), and their championship game, which is on ESPN or ESPN2. That's all ESPN has rights for.

Btw, those three games at Army are not our's, they would fall under Army's television contract. So take out those three and that brings us down to 14.

epasnoopy Wrote:

Airport KC Wrote:

epasnoopy Wrote:But CUSA has more ESPN-only appearances total so far than us. I'm not just talking about conference games.

CUSA and the MAC both have 16 appearances on ESPN/2

MAC ESPN/2 Apperances
Navy @ Ball State (1)
Ohio @ Temple (3)
Miami @ Buffalo (5)
NIU/BSU OR Akron/UT (7)
BSU @ Miami (9)
CMU/NIU OR Temple/KSU (11)
BSU @ CMU (13)
Navy @ NIU (14)
MAC Championship (16)

MAC ESPN Classic Appearances
Temple @ Army (1)
Akron @ Army (2)
EMU @ Army (3)
OU/MU OR UT/BGSU (5)

MAC ESPNU Appearances
Buffalo @ Ohio (2)
NIU/BSU OR Akron/UT (4)
Buffalo @ Akron (6)
OU/MU OR UT/BGSU (8)

On those nights with two games, 1 game will be on ESPN2 and 1 will not.

MAC has 29 total appearances on an ESPN network, 16 of which are on ESPN/2. CUSA has 16 on ESPN/2, WAC 15.

Where are you getting 29 games when you only have 17 listed?

Also, where are you getting 16 games for CUSA? All i see are 10 games, all of which are on ESPN (numero uno), and their championship game, which is on ESPN or ESPN2. That's all ESPN has rights for.

Btw, those three games at Army are not our's, they would fall under Army's television contract. So take out those three and that brings us down to 14.

He's counting each team's appearance as one appearance, not one game. So the Ohio-Temple game is two appearances.

MikeSpicer Wrote:

epasnoopy Wrote:

Airport KC Wrote:

epasnoopy Wrote:But CUSA has more ESPN-only appearances total so far than us. I'm not just talking about conference games.

CUSA and the MAC both have 16 appearances on ESPN/2

MAC ESPN/2 Apperances
Navy @ Ball State (1)
Ohio @ Temple (3)
Miami @ Buffalo (5)
NIU/BSU OR Akron/UT (7)
BSU @ Miami (9)
CMU/NIU OR Temple/KSU (11)
BSU @ CMU (13)
Navy @ NIU (14)
MAC Championship (16)

MAC ESPN Classic Appearances
Temple @ Army (1)
Akron @ Army (2)
EMU @ Army (3)
OU/MU OR UT/BGSU (5)

MAC ESPNU Appearances
Buffalo @ Ohio (2)
NIU/BSU OR Akron/UT (4)
Buffalo @ Akron (6)
OU/MU OR UT/BGSU (8)

On those nights with two games, 1 game will be on ESPN2 and 1 will not.

MAC has 29 total appearances on an ESPN network, 16 of which are on ESPN/2. CUSA has 16 on ESPN/2, WAC 15.

Where are you getting 29 games when you only have 17 listed?

Also, where are you getting 16 games for CUSA? All i see are 10 games, all of which are on ESPN (numero uno), and their championship game, which is on ESPN or ESPN2. That's all ESPN has rights for.

Btw, those three games at Army are not our's, they would fall under Army's television contract. So take out those three and that brings us down to 14.

He's counting each team's appearance as one appearance, not one game. So the Ohio-Temple game is two appearances.

lol, so i'm talking about the # of games on ESPN/ESPN2 and he's talking about each individual team's appearance and ESPNU games (which hardly anyone gets).