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Superdelegates: Voters can make it a personal political issue.
Hillary's Strategist Harold Ickes made an announcement over the weekend to the effect that they anticipate winning the Democratic Nomination on the basis of Super delegates, regardless of the number of state primaries Obama wins.

Apparently many Super delegate Congressmen will vote for Hillary, even though their constituents in their District voted for Obama in overwhelming numbers.

Obama staffers are in the middle of organizing an effort to pin down Congressional Super delegates to vote according to their District’s results, even going so far as to promise to vote for their Republican opponent for Congress in November, if the Super delegate Congressman votes for Hillary in Denver this summer..

More evidence of an upcoming Democratic "civil war"....
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WMD Owl Wrote:Hillary's Strategist Harold Ickes made an announcement over the weekend to the effect that they anticipate winning the Democratic Nomination on the basis of Super delegates, regardless of the number of state primaries Obama wins.

Apparently many Super delegate Congressmen will vote for Hillary, even though their constituents in their District voted for Obama in overwhelming numbers.

Obama staffers are in the middle of organizing an effort to pin down Congressional Super delegates to vote according to their District’s results, even going so far as to promise to vote for their Republican opponent for Congress in November, if the Super delegate Congressman votes for Hillary in Denver this summer..

More evidence of an upcoming Democratic "civil war"....

Obama could be putting his whole political future on the line with this. If it doesn't work he'll have no support from the Democrat "establishment" to run in 2012 or 2016.
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THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:Obama could be putting his whole political future on the line with this. If it doesn't work he'll have no support from the Democrat "establishment" to run in 2012 or 2016.

Hey, to him, the future is now. This is his best chance to win. He has nothing to lose. And if Hillary beats him using some Parliamentary tactic or Super Delegate scam, he will have the people whipped up and pissed to "take back" the Democratic Party. By throwing out Congressmen.

Obama could effectively "clean house" of these insiders, and blame Hillary for a Republican led Congress.

If Hillary gets the nomination and is elected (God please no...) she will have the DNC for at least 8 years. He doesn't have a real opportunity until 2016 and then he will have a legislative record that documents his hard core leftist positions.

In 2016 he will be just another typical tax and spend liberal Democrat.

But now he is "magical"... he is a rock star, and the press is having "Obama-asms" just gushing and spewing all over themselves on how wonderful he is, and brings hope, and "change"...... la dee la dee da...
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WMD Owl Wrote:
THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:Obama could be putting his whole political future on the line with this. If it doesn't work he'll have no support from the Democrat "establishment" to run in 2012 or 2016.

Hey, to him, the future is now. This is his best chance to win. He has nothing to lose. And if Hillary beats him using some Parliamentary tactic or Super Delegate scam, he will have the people whipped up and pissed to "take back" the Democratic Party. By throwing out Congressmen.

Obama could effectively "clean house" of these insiders, and blame Hillary for a Republican led Congress.

If Hillary gets the nomination and is elected (God please no...) she will have the DNC for at least 8 years. He doesn't have a real opportunity until 2016 and then he will have a legislative record that documents his hard core leftist positions.

In 2016 he will be just another typical tax and spend liberal Democrat.

But now he is "magical"... he is a rock star, and the press is having "Obama-asms" just gushing and spewing all over themselves on how wonderful he is, and brings hope, and "change"...... la dee la dee da...


Two reasons this would be a major mistake for Obama

1) He says he wants to break from "Politics as Usual" talk about old style politics, McCain would use this against him big time.

2) If he really has this much power, (which I doubt) he would turn voters off because it would show he isn't interested in finding common ground, rather forcing his policies through strong arm style.

This might win him the nomination, but cost him in November.
02-19-2008 07:35 AM
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