How in the hell did she blow $80 million since last June?

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0...llion.html

Also reports that she is asking Camapign Staff to work without pay..

http://thepage.time.com/2008/02/06/page-...thout-pay/

Most of her donors are tapped out.. already giving the maximum individual $4600 donation allowed under federal law to a Presidential candidate.

Of course... she can "double dip"-...- declare herself a "candidate" for the Senate in 2012, now, so people can make donations to her 2012 Senate Campaign now...

Its sleezy, but legal...

I bet she misses Norman Hsu right now...

But if she really needs cash, she can always order the "old reliable"-- the infamous Chinese Take-Out Donations..

She should be able to throw together a few commodity trades and be right back in the cash.

She 'borrowed' it from herself. Romney's been doing this the whole time.

BamaBlazer Wrote:She 'borrowed' it from herself. Romney's been doing this the whole time.

Big difference is Hillary made a loan to her campaign which she will get back. Romney has been ponying up money that he will have to earn back in the world of capitalism.

Hillary called it a investment in her news conference but I dont consider it an investment when you are guarantteed to get it paid back but I guess when your view of investment has been molded by a $1k commodity trade turning into $100k that you think all investments pay you back.

The double-dipping you talk about -- setting up a fund for the Senate campaign in 2012 and then taking funds from that -- is very much illegal as well as impossible. Were it that simple, she could just take from her presidential general election funds. She can't.

One thing that concerns me about this is how this money was earned. The Clinton's have made their fortune largely on books and speaking fees. The latter of which is very vulnerable to fraud. Imagine a situation where someone overpays Bill for a corporate speech, and then that money just so happens to find its way into Hillary's campaign. A great way to launder donations. Books are a bit more legit, however.

Either way, $5 million is about 5 times Barack's total net worth, so the only way he can compete is with small donations.

So far, he's done pretty well:

George Will's column today:

Quote:Bill Clinton, by executive edict, declared 1.7 million acres of Utah to be a national monument. Under those acres are the largest known deposit-more than 60 billion tons-of low-sulfur, clean-burning coal. The second largest deposit, the value of which rose because of Clinton's action locking up an alternative supply, is in Indonesia and is owned by a member of the Indonesian Riady family, of fragrant memory, which was generous to Clinton's 1992 campaign.

GGniner Wrote:George Will's column today:

Quote:Bill Clinton, by executive edict, declared 1.7 million acres of Utah to be a national monument. Under those acres are the largest known deposit-more than 60 billion tons-of low-sulfur, clean-burning coal. The second largest deposit, the value of which rose because of Clinton's action locking up an alternative supply, is in Indonesia and is owned by a member of the Indonesian Riady family, of fragrant memory, which was generous to Clinton's 1992 campaign.

...and libs wanna talk about impeachable offenses. ******* over the American people for a few campaign contributions. Isn't the first time. China was benefited as well by Clinton's dealings with them and the Loral Corporation.

Boy, and the Bush family's ties to the Saudis are so much more respectable.

subflea Wrote:Boy, and the Bush family's ties to the Saudis are so much more respectable.

Has Bush denied Americans from drilling here? Opening up refineries? Colluded in any way that harmed Americans? Didn't think so. His ties to Saudi oil men are no different than a CEO of Ford's ties to Mazda pre-merger.

the Clinton's are tied in pretty tight to the Saudi's, they were a funder of the Clinton Library. And he goes there and gives speeches for big $$$ in recent years, which could be argued is part of the funds Hillary just loaned herself.

RebelKev Wrote:

subflea Wrote:Boy, and the Bush family's ties to the Saudis are so much more respectable.

Has Bush denied Americans from drilling here? Opening up refineries? Colluded in any way that harmed Americans? Didn't think so. His ties to Saudi oil men are no different than a CEO of Ford's ties to Mazda pre-merger.

Strip mining for coal in Utah is such a wonderful thing for Americans.

subflea Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

subflea Wrote:Boy, and the Bush family's ties to the Saudis are so much more respectable.

Has Bush denied Americans from drilling here? Opening up refineries? Colluded in any way that harmed Americans? Didn't think so. His ties to Saudi oil men are no different than a CEO of Ford's ties to Mazda pre-merger.

Strip mining for coal in Utah is such a wonderful thing for Americans.

You're right. No one needs heat.

Well, Hillary's cash crunch is abated somewhat since she rasied $6 million on top of the $5 million "loan"...

(While Obama raised $7 million himself)

Something tells me she vistied some sleezy Chinese "Take Out" place and "took out" a large check....

$11 million on top of the approx. $4 million that she already had, combined with staff working for free... gives her $15 million, which will get her through March.

This means she has to score big in in the Mid -Atlantic states this weekend, and rack up BOTH Texas and Ohio....

Otherwise the only way she can pull out a win of the nomination is using heavy coercive tactics on the SuperDelegates, and trying to railroad the Florida and Michigan Delegations into the Convention….

All of this is 100% guaranteed to piss off the Obama delegates and supporters and promise the biggest Floor Fight you have seen since Chicago in 1968…

RebelKev Wrote:

subflea Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

subflea Wrote:Boy, and the Bush family's ties to the Saudis are so much more respectable.

Has Bush denied Americans from drilling here? Opening up refineries? Colluded in any way that harmed Americans? Didn't think so. His ties to Saudi oil men are no different than a CEO of Ford's ties to Mazda pre-merger.

Strip mining for coal in Utah is such a wonderful thing for Americans.

You're right. No one needs heat.

Allow new nuclear power plants to be built.

subflea Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

subflea Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

subflea Wrote:Boy, and the Bush family's ties to the Saudis are so much more respectable.

Has Bush denied Americans from drilling here? Opening up refineries? Colluded in any way that harmed Americans? Didn't think so. His ties to Saudi oil men are no different than a CEO of Ford's ties to Mazda pre-merger.

Strip mining for coal in Utah is such a wonderful thing for Americans.

You're right. No one needs heat.

Allow new nuclear power plants to be built.

Good luck on that. the Treehuggers will keep every application tied up in Court for years, using the Nuclear Waste Policy Act to keep things closed..

You have some smart Treehuggers.. Harry Reid has put the brakes on Yucca Mountain for long term waste storage. And then they go to Court and stop the new permits because there isn't a storage repository available..

subflea Wrote:Boy, and the Bush family's ties to the Saudis are so much more respectable.

OK, I won't mention Bill's ties to Dubai and Burkle/Yucaipa...

"Former President Clinton stands to reap around $20 million -- and will sever a politically sensitive partnership tie to Dubai -- by ending his high-profile business relationship with the investment firm of billionaire friend Ron Burkle.

Mr. Clinton is negotiating to end his relationship with Mr. Burkle's Yucaipa Cos. as part of a broader effort to protect the presidential campaign of his wife, Sen. Hillary Clinton, from potential conflicts of interest. Details of Mr. Clinton's involvement in Yucaipa and his efforts to unwind it come from documents and interviews with people familiar with the matter."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/22...82616.html

I bet the $5 million came from part of the $20 million payout Bill got.

and I bet the $20 million is in no way fair compensation for "services rendered".. especailly since he has been working full time for Hillary the past year...

And if it is a return on an "investment".. its like a 50,000% return...

"Cattle Futures" anyone???