Mike and Mike Show reported that this morning. I saw a Kragthorpe to SMU thread on their message board and their own fans called the program one of the worst in college football. Plus, you get to fight with the Big 12 plus North Texas plus Tulsa plus UTEP. I don't get it (other than money)

Buffalo ain't the garden of eden of college football but SMU.....?

Gill is from Fort Worth, about a 40 minute drive from SMU in Dallas. So that is atleast 1 solid reason why he may be interested in SMU.

That certainly helps explain it.

tcufrog86 Wrote:Gill is from Fort Worth, about a 40 minute drive from SMU in Dallas. So that is atleast 1 solid reason why he may be interested in SMU.

I don't see their AD Orsini going to Gill. Remember hes the guy who was @ UCF and got O'Leary. Look for an ex ND guy or a big namer w/more experience. One thing Orsini will pay some cash.

Let's hope that Gill (and other such coaches) don't trade coaching jobs the way some trade their cars.

If Gill gets offer Nebraska, fine. But if he gets offered, SMU...

Is that a "promotion"????? (or demotion dressed up with a bigger salary).

Is Gill trying to get a raise out of UB?

2 Reasons:

1. Bigger athletic budget to work with
2. Much bigger salary
3. State of TEXAS to recruit in

All 3 are viable reasons why he'd bolt out the door. SMU sucks but with their money and location they could get back to being good, especially with Orsini at AD.

UCF Knights 07 Wrote:2 Reasons:

1. Bigger athletic budget to work with
2. Much bigger salary
3. State of TEXAS to recruit in

All 3 are viable reasons why he'd bolt out the door. SMU sucks but with their money and location they could get back to being good, especially with Orsini at AD.

To counter your listed reasons:

1.Buffalo has a good athletic budget for the MAC. SMU has a bigger overall athletic budget because they offer more sports.

2. Are you sure that Buffalo couldn't match SMU's offer? Some MAC coaches these days make 500k to 600k.

3.SMU is in Texas but they have no support and play in whimpy CUSA. The MAC is a tougher conference top to bottom.

By any reasonable measurement the SMU job is a SIGNIFICANTLY better opportunity than Buffalo. There is no comparison.


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Airport KC Wrote:

UCF Knights 07 Wrote:2 Reasons:

1. Bigger athletic budget to work with
2. Much bigger salary
3. State of TEXAS to recruit in

All 3 are viable reasons why he'd bolt out the door. SMU sucks but with their money and location they could get back to being good, especially with Orsini at AD.

To counter your listed reasons:

1.Buffalo has a good athletic budget for the MAC. SMU has a bigger overall athletic budget because they offer more sports.

2. Are you sure that Buffalo couldn't match SMU's offer? Some MAC coaches these days make 500k to 600k.

3.SMU is in Texas but they have no support and play in whimpy CUSA. The MAC is a tougher conference top to bottom.

You are almost too dumb to have a conversation with. Apparently that sand you have your head stuck in prevents you from seeing how deep the pockets go at SMU. They have some of the wealthiest alumni in the nation, hence they'd be able to pay WAY WAY more than Buffalo.

As for #3, SMU's support this year has sucked- but exactly how is it any worse than Buffalo? Atleast SMU has shown in the past they can support a winning program.

Back to your regularly scheduled fantasy scenario.

Quote:Atleast SMU has shown in the past they can support a winning program.

And look what that "support" got them: NCAA--> <-- SMU

In all seriousness, I could see why the SMU job would be attractive to a guy from Texas, but it's still more of a lateral move than anything else...unless SMU is willing to give Gill a significant pay raise. The question in my mind is: what has Gill proven to date? Buffalo was competitive this year, and that's a step up from where the Bulls were, but the Bulls still haven't had a winning season under Gill. I'd think SMU would want a proven guy, not merely a promising one. And ditto Nebraska, although I think there's a slightly better chance of Gill ending up there, due to the ties w/Osborne.

Every since the Death Penalty, the SMU job has been a graveyard for coaches.

Someday, some coach will make the program respectable. But will Gill be the one who wants to try? Me thinks he'll evaluate the talent currently at Buffalo with what's at SMU, then compare the salaries, then consider the intangibles (such as how many family members still live in the Metroplex).

SMU is a step up. UB is among the worst programs in country and Gill has just 6 wins in two years at Buffalo. I think Gill still has to win more at UB to get a bigger job. SMU might try to get him cheap before he becomes a hot coaching prospect that BCS school behing to notice and drive up the price.

I would think that Gill would either go to Nebraska or stay with UB. Certainly he is the obvious choice for Nebraska...Tom Osborne was the best man at his wedding. But...if he doesn't get the job, it would make more sense for him to stay on at UB and build his resume for a shot at a BCS job. I mean, if UB makes it to a bowl next year, Gill would be on the short list of a lot of jobs. Why go to SMU now and start another rebuilding (SMU won one game this year) when you are already in the middle of one at another non-BCS school. Unless it is a money grab...

We'll see...

Go Bulls.

UB92 Wrote:I would think that Gill would either go to Nebraska or stay with UB. Certainly he is the obvious choice for Nebraska...Tom Osborne was the best man at his wedding. But...if he doesn't get the job, it would make more sense for him to stay on at UB and build his resume for a shot at a BCS job. I mean, if UB makes it to a bowl next year, Gill would be on the short list of a lot of jobs. Why go to SMU now and start another rebuilding (SMU won one game this year) when you are already in the middle of one at another non-BCS school. Unless it is a money grab...

We'll see...

Go Bulls.

Turner Gill is NOT getting the SMU job. If he was offered it he would be foolish not to take it. Probably will pay 600 K plus. The fired coach got close to 500 K.

That being said he won't get it. Hes got a better chance @ Nebraska.

Houston Nutt if not retained @ Arkansas will get the SMU job. Had the LSU win not occured it was a done deal. Now who knows.

As for Gill @ Nebraska as an OC job making 1 mill an option to leave UB ?

Another hot tidbit today is that Osborne will talk to Barry Alvarez about accepting the dual role as AD and Head football coach. They would bring in Turner Gill to be the offensive coordinator and groom him to be Alvarez' successor. This seems to make sense as Alvarez would be the "big name" fans are looking for and has some Nebraska heritage in his blood while it would give a chance for Gill to transition into the Head coach role at an easier pace. As a UB fan, I hope Gill stays but it's hard to see Osborne not giving him some kind of chance to take over that program (whether now or a couple years from now).

zrb2 Wrote:Another hot tidbit today is that Osborne will talk to Barry Alvarez about accepting the dual role as AD and Head football coach.

Isn't Osborne the AD? He plans to fire himself?

Schadenfreude Wrote:

zrb2 Wrote:Another hot tidbit today is that Osborne will talk to Barry Alvarez about accepting the dual role as AD and Head football coach.

Isn't Osborne the AD? He plans to fire himself?

Interim AD. Not there for the long haul.

It will be interesting to see how the AD position plays out w/the new HC, in that the new AD may be stuck w/a new HC and a 5 year concurrent contract.

zrb2 Wrote:Another hot tidbit today is that Osborne will talk to Barry Alvarez about accepting the dual role as AD and Head football coach. They would bring in Turner Gill to be the offensive coordinator and groom him to be Alvarez' successor. This seems to make sense as Alvarez would be the "big name" fans are looking for and has some Nebraska heritage in his blood while it would give a chance for Gill to transition into the Head coach role at an easier pace. As a UB fan, I hope Gill stays but it's hard to see Osborne not giving him some kind of chance to take over that program (whether now or a couple years from now).