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what a bunch of lying homers these BCS chumps are. not that we didn't already know...

The Big Ten swings and misses
Matt Hayes
Sporting News

We begin with a story of college baseball -- the ping of aluminum, the double-digit innings, the 5-hour games ... I'm already bored. We're talking baseball because without it, we can't see the BCS for what it really is: an exclusive, hypocritical, members-only club.

Let me state for the umpteenth time that I don't mind the concept of the BCS; what I mind is the way the BCS administrators do their business. It's sleazy and deceitful, and above all else, you almost get the feeling they think we're a bunch of blithering idiots. Case in point: the proposed restructuring of college baseball.

The Big Ten Conference is upset about (I swear I'm not making this up) competitive inequity in college baseball. The league that, along with the Pac-10, is holding the BCS hostage while dangling the lucrative Rose Bowl is upset because The Man is keeping them down. Yep, they say, forcing Big Ten teams to play baseball on the road in February and March because their fields are snowed under creates a competitive disadvantage for the league when it comes to qualifying for the NCAA Tournament and the College World Series.

So the Big Ten wants the baseball season moved back, beginning at least a month later (early March) and ending well into July. And it's probably going to happen.

"I don't see how it couldn't," says a member of the NCAA baseball committee.

The reason, of course, is money. When there is money to be made -- college baseball is a clay-covered Cullinen diamond waiting to be spit-polished -- everyone has his hand out.

Now, ladies and gentlemen, we give you the connection to college football: By moving the baseball season back, the presidents of these prestigious universities are allowing an NCAA sport to be played not only beyond its proposed semester but beyond the school year. Meanwhile, the steadfast argument against a national football playoff has been that it would extend the season into the second semester. When the fifth BCS game was announced last month, it was revealed that the championship game would be played a week after the other four BCS games -- or one week into the second semester.

When the hypocrisy of that was mentioned to Oregon president Dave Frohnmayer, he quickly turned into Mel Tillis, stammering and stumbling over every response. At one point, he said the "readiness" of some universities would come into play; you know, the players, administration, fans and bands.

Holy mother of God -- the bands.

Given all that, how about that Jim Delany -- the gall of the man. We always knew the Big Ten commissioner was the most powerful BCS czar, but even he had to know how incredibly hypocritical his claim of unfair competition in college baseball sounded. Hey, Jimbo, how about we give your pitchers an expanded strike zone and your batters an extra out, too? Better yet, how about this tradeoff: We'll give you competitive baseball equity, and the Big Ten gives the Southeastern Conference a slice of the Frozen Four revenue.

If there is a divide between the Big Ten and the rest of college baseball, it's the same between the BCS and non-BCS teams in football. Those who spend money on a sport and make a systematic effort to enrich the program on and off of the field reap the benefits. Rice and Cal State Fullerton, the past two College World Series champions, have immaculate facilities and long-standing commitments that make most Big Ten baseball programs look like your local Little League teams.

The Big Ten is like the king complaining he doesn't have enough gold.

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07-12-2004 11:26 AM
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I agree with you and it makes me want to spit. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. We the non-BCS schools are in a war with the BCS and it will seriously take an act of congress to make these buggers give us a fair share. If they were a government they would be Fascist.

When we bicker amongst ourselves it makes me sick. If we don’t all band together and get some kind of democracy going we will go another 20 years before the token BYU type team will be allowed to win a mythical national championship.

Down with the BCS up with fair play.

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07-12-2004 09:53 PM
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1boisebro Wrote:Better yet, how about this tradeoff: We'll give you competitive baseball equity, and the Big Ten gives the Southeastern Conference a slice of the Frozen Four revenue.
the big 10 doesn't get any frozen four revenue. the big 10 doesn't even sponser hockey as a conference sport.

5 big 10 teams do happen to play hockey (michigan, minnesota, wisconsin, michigan state and ohio state), but they do so as members of two seperate hockey-only conferences:
western collegiate hockey conference (minnesota, wisconsin and about 10 other schools)
central collegiate hockey conference (michigan, michigan state, ohio state and about 10 other schools).

wouldn't a "sports writer" know better?
wouldn't a real journalist do his homework a little better than that?
- or is this just an agenda-driven, one-sided, piece of fluff journalism?

and of courrse, this isn't the same issue because hockey is played inside - even in the northern reaches, so there is no inherant geographical/weather advantage to playing each season. a southern school that decided to field a hockey team has no disadvantage in season length or home vs away games - otherwise the two alaska teams would dominate college hockey (which they don't) due to their geographic advantage of being under-snow most of the year.

i'm not defending bcs football (where the sport is dominated by schools that have invested int heir programs) - but to suppose that the issue is the same in baseball (where half the teams play 3/4 ths of their games away just because they are northern teams) - or that either has anything in common with hockey is truely missing the boat.
07-13-2004 08:29 AM
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EMUHuron Wrote:a southern school that decided to field a hockey team has no disadvantage in season length or home vs away games
True - the only disadvantage is a lack of frozen ponds where little kids grew up playing pick-up hockey. Oh, and a lack of other nearby schools playing hockey - a southern team would have to travel all over creation to get to any opponents. Off-campus rinks exist, but ice time is expensive in the South.

Why don't the northern schools either get indoor baseball stadiums, or just play in existing ones? Isn't that what Minnesota does for the first part of the year? Then they wouldn't have to worry about playing games on the road "because it's cold". Of course, having to play on the road because southern teams don't want to bother playing road games against northern RPI drains -- indoors OR out -- now that's another matter.

The Big Ten gets the same baseball autobid that the WAC gets. Too bad they don't do more with it.
07-13-2004 04:36 PM
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huntington, alabama plays div i hockey - so it can be done
and i believe they've been one of the better teams in their conference.


and in reality no one learns hockey on frozen ponds anymore (that's more a romantic fairy tale than actual fact)

and rink time is expensive everywhere
07-15-2004 09:22 AM
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EMUHuron Wrote:huntington, alabama plays div i hockey - so it can be done
and i believe they've been one of the better teams in their conference.


and in reality no one learns hockey on frozen ponds anymore (that's more a romantic fairy tale than actual fact)

and rink time is expensive everywhere
acutally, it's alabama- huntsville. nice effort on the attempt at elementary southern geography there, yankee...

and since moving up from division II (where they won national championships), they haven't made the ncaa tournament.

and even if there are no frozen ponds for hockey anymore, there are significantly more junior players and hockey facilities up north. it's a huge advantage to be able to recruit good players close to home (which is another reason southern college baseball is better than northern college baseball)...
07-25-2004 12:01 PM
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I like how this EMU guy is just avoiding the main issue and getting his panties in a wad over ponds.. Big 10 teams aren't the only ones that play in cold weather! Wichita State is a perfect example of a cold weather program. How many years in a row have the Shockers qualified for the NCAAs? Nevada plays their first 15 or so games on the road every year too, and hey.. they've qualified for the NCAAs four times in the last 10 years.
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