Observer Wrote:This is really disturbing. My son knows Ray very well. He says that this is totally out of character for Ray and is very disturbing. Still, Tulane, and coach Toledo need to take decisive action for the good of the team and the school. Dang! I hate this.

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You reckon? I'd like to think stabbing 5 people would be "totally out of character" for about everyone!

paintcan Wrote:

Observer Wrote:This is really disturbing. My son knows Ray very well. He says that this is totally out of character for Ray and is very disturbing. Still, Tulane, and coach Toledo need to take decisive action for the good of the team and the school. Dang! I hate this.

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You reckon? I'd like to think stabbing 5 people would be "totally out of character" for about everyone!

Well, this IS the New Orleans area we're talking about. Stabbing 5 people is a slow day for just about anyone down there.

Romper Stomper Wrote:

paintcan Wrote:

Observer Wrote:This is really disturbing. My son knows Ray very well. He says that this is totally out of character for Ray and is very disturbing. Still, Tulane, and coach Toledo need to take decisive action for the good of the team and the school. Dang! I hate this.

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You reckon? I'd like to think stabbing 5 people would be "totally out of character" for about everyone!

Well, this IS the New Orleans area we're talking about. Stabbing 5 people is a slow day for just about anyone down there.

What the heck are you talking about. Knives are old school. Our "poor displaced lower 9th ward Katrina victims" graduated to guns years ago.

Romper Stomper Wrote:Well, this IS the New Orleans area we're talking about. Stabbing 5 people is a slow day for just about anyone down there.

You know how people always complain about making a big deal of one's mistakes while ignoring the good things they've done (or are doing) ?

Consider your good deeds ignored, dipshyt.

Observer Wrote:You really need to observer a little more closely. I am advocating quick and decisive action for the sake of the team and school. I am in favor of his expulsion. That is the proper thing to do. Unlike what your university chose to do with your thugs.

Please!

Name one time Memphis or any other school has had a player arrested on FIVE counts of ATTEMPTED MURDER and done anything other than immediately kick him out of school.

We're not talking about weed in his car or an accusation from his girlfriend or DUI. We're not talking about some fist fight in a bar, or even theft.

We're talking about five counts of attempted murder.

EVERY SCHOOL would have handled this like Tulane did.

Stop trying to spin this into some holier than thou thing. We don't deserve it.

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Please!

Name one time Memphis or any other school has had a player arrested on FIVE counts of ATTEMPTED MURDER and done anything other than immediately kick him out of school.

We're not talking about weed in his car or an accusation from his girlfriend or DUI. We're not talking about some fist fight in a bar, or even theft.

We're talking about five counts of attempted murder.

EVERY SCHOOL would have handled this like Tulane did.

Stop trying to spin this into some holier than thou thing. We don't deserve it.
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Save your preaching for someone who thinks you make sense. I was not referring to a DUI, or a mere fist fight. I was talking about assault on police officers. And some fist fights aren't merely tussles between equally matched drunks. Some are dangerous assaults. And in that vane, not every school handles the problem the same as Tulane.

Observer Wrote:Save your preaching for someone who thinks you make sense. I was not referring to a DUI, or a mere fist fight. I was talking about assault on police officers. And some fist fights aren't merely tussles between equally matched drunks. Some are dangerous assaults. And in that vane, not every school handles the problem the same as Tulane.

Five counts of Attempted Murder.

Nothing that has happened at Memphis even comes close.

BlazerUnit Wrote:

Romper Stomper Wrote:Well, this IS the New Orleans area we're talking about. Stabbing 5 people is a slow day for just about anyone down there.

You know how people always complain about making a big deal of one's mistakes while ignoring the good things they've done (or are doing) ?

Consider your good deeds ignored, dipshyt.

Oooooo-kay.........f@ggo+

I don't think fans of any school have room to point fingers at another school for their students getting in trouble with the law. That's just the environment that we live in today. Until we as a society deteremine that we collectively want to instill disipline in our kids at a very young age, we're stuck with the society we're currently in. The problem covers all racesm levels of income, etc. jmho

oldtiger Wrote:I don't think fans of any school have room to point fingers at another school for their students getting in trouble with the law. That's just the environment that we live in today. Until we as a society deteremine that we collectively want to instill disipline in our kids at a very young age, we're stuck with the society we're currently in. The problem covers all racesm levels of income, etc. jmho

You act as if things like this are a recent development in society. This kind of stuff has been going on for a long, long time. The only difference is that we have media talking about it 24/7 and with better access.

BTW, I fully support Tulane's actions in this case, and I feel really bad for the people who were stabbed, their families, in addition to feeling really bad for Boudreaux and his family.

People need to realize that these things are tragic for all parties involved.

oldtiger Wrote:It's always sad when a young person messes up their life whether they are an athlete or not. It happens to a lot of kids, regardless of their upbringing and surroundings. As a fan, it's never a good idea to make fun of behavorial issues at other schools. You never know when it will happen at your school because I have the utmost respect for Tulane's academics, admistration, and demeanor of their overall athletic teams.

You are saying that a lot of kids wind up brutally stabbing five people? At one time? I don't know, I think of a kid getting a DUI or a marijuana possession charge as messing up, not this.

This is beyond messing up.

Grammar-Nazi Wrote:You are saying that a lot of kids wind up brutally stabbing five people? At one time?

I'm not going to get into an arguement about this, it isn't worth it, but ........ is that what I said?

No, and you know it isn't.

My points were:

-It's unfair for fans of one school to point at another, we all have issues.
-Until we change our issues in society, we're going to have behavoiral issues.

Quote:This is beyond messing up.

Of course it is.

USM@FTL Wrote:BTW, if anyone tried to end the athletic programs at USM, I'd kill them. Seriously I would. Not kidding here.

TT - come pick me up over here on the SW FL coast on your way up to Indianapolis should this happen. I got your back - and I know people with ordinance connections we can collect from on the way.

There are many, many alums and friends that trained at Camp Shelby we could recruit as well.

GO EAGLES!

OUGwave Wrote:http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/wwl09...737fe.html

Quote:A Tulane football player was arrested Friday morning and charged with stabbing five people on Bourbon Street over the weekend.

According to Sgt. Joe Narcisse, an NOPD spokesman, the incident took place early Sunday morning at a bar in the 200 block of Bourbon Street.


Police said a fight between two groups of people lead to the stabbing. Five people were stabbed, one of whom remains in critical condition.


Eighth District detectives obtained surveillance video of the fight and stabbing and were able identify 22-year-old Ray Boudreaux has their primary suspect, Narcisse said.


Boudreaux was arrested at his Metairie home and charged with five counts of attempted first-degree murder, Narcisse said. Police also recovered the alleged knife used in the attack at Boudreaux's home.


As a result of the arrest, Boudreaux has been suspended from the university and will not be allowed to attend classes or participate in team activities, according to a school spokesman.

FWIW, Boudreaux is a backup RB, our KR, and was to be our game-day captain this week against Southeastern LA.

Make no mistake. They have Boudreaux dead to rights. He's going in. For a long time.

This is a crushing blow for our football program. Crushing.

And not because of Boudreaux's talent. Because when the anti-football crowd comes after our program again... I am fearing this is the ammunition they will need. One of the things that helped last time was the perception that football players were quality student athletes who added positively to campus life and the community.

Hard to make that case now. Damn hard.

I'm embarrassed, humiliated, disgusted, ashamed. I'll be monitoring how Tulane and Toledo handle this very closely... kicking him out of school is not enough. They need to go above and beyond in separating us from this behavior if they have want my continued financial support.

It's ridiculous & ignorant on your part to make such a comment about someone you don't know nor do you have all the facts!! I'm not saying what he did was right but if you felt your life was in danger, wouldn't you defend yourself? The media is not giving all the facts and not showing all the video footage. There's no reason for you to be "embarrassed, humiliated, disgusted or ashamed" b/c it doesn't reflect on you personally!! His future is on the line and all you're thinking about is the financial support you supply to Tulane. I sincerely hope this is not a race issue for you & you're not covering it up by having false concern for the football program! I hope I'm wrong and if I am, I sincerely apologize.

OUGwave Wrote:

CougarRed Wrote:I'd withhold judgment until all the evidence is in. I hated that Duke's faculty and President rushed to judgment about the lacrosse team.

This is not like that case.

There's a surveillance video tape. Its clear.

He was picked out of a lineup and the weapon was found in his apartment.

The facts are in. Only the incompetence of the New Orleans criminal justice system can save him now.

Let me be clear about something else. This is not a kid who had it rough. Not a kid from the mean streets. He's from Abbeville. I'm sure he wasn't wealthy, but a kid from Abbeville who is about to graduate from Tulane with a $160,000 education is not a kid who was struggling to overcome -- its a kid who foolishly pissed everything away.

OUGwave Wrote:

CougarRed Wrote:I'd withhold judgment until all the evidence is in. I hated that Duke's faculty and President rushed to judgment about the lacrosse team.

This is not like that case.

There's a surveillance video tape. Its clear.

He was picked out of a lineup and the weapon was found in his apartment.

The facts are in. Only the incompetence of the New Orleans criminal justice system can save him now.

Let me be clear about something else. This is not a kid who had it rough. Not a kid from the mean streets. He's from Abbeville. I'm sure he wasn't wealthy, but a kid from Abbeville who is about to graduate from Tulane with a $160,000 education is not a kid who was struggling to overcome -- its a kid who foolishly pissed everything away.

Ok. It's really a shame you feel that way and you have so much belief in the media!! They are not providing all the facts!! So no, THE FACTS AREN'T IN!!!!!! You haven't seen the entire video and if you did, I'm more than sure you'd have a different opinion! It doesn't matter where he's from or if he struggled growing up and it definitely has nothing to do with his education!! If you feared for your life, I don't doubt you'd defend yourself however you could. Unfortunately, the media isn't providing all facts and video footage!! He didn't piss everything away!! He was defending himself and now an example is being made out of him b/c of negative-opinionated people like you!! Anyone, that knows him, KNOWS HE WAS DEFENDING HIMSELF AND KNOWS HE WOULDN'T DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT B/C SOMEONE (OR GROUP OF PEOPLE) DECIDED TO PISS HIM OFF!! Get ALL the facts before you judge someone b/c if it was you, you'd want to be treated fairly!!

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GANG_GREEN Wrote:

CougarRed Wrote:I'd withhold judgment until all the evidence is in. I hated that Duke's faculty and President rushed to judgment about the lacrosse team.

Totally different from the Duke case. If you go to nola.com, they have video of him stabbing one of the victims on Bourbon. He also confessed on camera and said it was because he was outnumbered that he had the knife.

I do love the way Tulane has handled this though. As soon as news got out about his arrest and confession, his name way already off of the roster on the official website and Tulane released a statement saying he was no longer a member of the university.

There's more video footage and it's unfortunate that the media decided to show that making him look like a mad man. There's footage showing what happened that led up to that event and also footage of what happened after. He was defending himself. If there was a group of people trying to hurt you, what would you do, defend yourself right? He told them he didn't want any trouble and tried to walk away but they persued to fight him. I'm not saying he was right but I know in my heart that he was defending himself b/c I know him personally and I'm not just talking up for him. Be realistic, if you were outnumbered what would you do? It's natural human instinc to react and defend him or herself so don't judge him based on what the media is providing to you. Put yourself in his shoes for one second.

You are wrong. It wasn't premeditated!! The fight started in a nightclub and he told the others involved that he did't want any trouble but they persued the situation anyway. There's also video footage of the events that took place before what the media is providing to the public. It was NOT planned and the others involved were trying to jump Ray!!

OUGwave Wrote:

uofmcamaro Wrote:

GANG_GREEN Wrote:

CougarRed Wrote:I'd withhold judgment until all the evidence is in. I hated that Duke's faculty and President rushed to judgment about the lacrosse team.

Totally different from the Duke case. If you go to nola.com, they have video of him stabbing one of the victims on Bourbon. He also confessed on camera and said it was because he was outnumbered that he had the knife.

If he had fear for his life, then I wouldn't blame the kid. If I had a ton of people about to attack, I'd swing a knife too.

That doesn't quite square with the video I saw.

He comes after people with a knife. He was not defending himself.

Now, he may have known he was going to be taking part in a fight and knew he was outnumbered so he brought a knife.

Thats just dumb and doesn't excuse anything. It just proves premeditation. If you're going to be outnumbered, don't go to the fight.

This was definitely a pre-meditated thing. It wasn't like a fight all of a sudden broke out, this was a planned assault. They jumped these guys.