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CatsClaw Wrote:Washington's next game, I believe, is against #24 Boise State so we'll find out if UW is legit.

Um, I think it's safe to say that SU is simply that bad. Their offensive line and qb play is a joke and their running backs have no burst or power. They have a couple of decent wide outs. I think their D actually looks worse this year than last. This team will be lucky to win 2 games in conference imo.

Please tell me where you think that this team will possibly get 2 wins in the BE. I dont see even 1 win in the BE judging from what I have seen so far. Our Oline is horrible. If they cant keep the qb protected, they wont give our defense time to rest. Robinson has to go. No more Mr. nice guy from me.03-hissyfit
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Jackson,

You are right in that it is just one game. They say a team shows more improvement from the first to the second game, so lets hope the Cuse improves in a major way. If not, then you can bet that Syracuse will be looking for a new coach.
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L-yes Wrote:
CatsClaw Wrote:Washington's next game, I believe, is against #24 Boise State so we'll find out if UW is legit.

Um, I think it's safe to say that SU is simply that bad. Their offensive line and qb play is a joke and their running backs have no burst or power. They have a couple of decent wide outs. I think their D actually looks worse this year than last. This team will be lucky to win 2 games in conference imo.

Please tell me where you think that this team will possibly get 2 wins in the BE. I dont see even 1 win in the BE judging from what I have seen so far.03-hissyfit


I said 'lucky' but you're probably right in that I'm being overly generous suggesting 2 wins are within the wildest realm of possibility.
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Bull Daly Wrote:Jackson,

You are right in that it is just one game. They say a team shows more improvement from the first to the second game, so lets hope the Cuse improves in a major way. If not, then you can bet that Syracuse will be looking for a new coach.

USF sure looked ugly the first few games last season. Sometimes teams need to gel, especially if there is a lot of youth on the team.

But, I agree with most have said. If no serious improvement is made over the season, Robinson should go.
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L-yes Wrote:
CatsClaw Wrote:Washington's next game, I believe, is against #24 Boise State so we'll find out if UW is legit.

Um, I think it's safe to say that SU is simply that bad. Their offensive line and qb play is a joke and their running backs have no burst or power. They have a couple of decent wide outs. I think their D actually looks worse this year than last. This team will be lucky to win 2 games in conference imo.

Please tell me where you think that this team will possibly get 2 wins in the BE. I dont see even 1 win in the BE judging from what I have seen so far. Our Oline is horrible. If they cant keep the qb protected, they wont give our defense time to rest. Robinson has to go. No more Mr. nice guy from me.03-hissyfit

The thing with the Pistol formation is that it is supposed to be a formation that is more condusive to running the ball, with traps, counters, etc. with many pass plays designed as rollouts and play-action fakes (one of the nice things about weeknight football is that you can see a team like Nevada run an offense like this). Syracuse tried a lot of straight drop backs and didn't show much in the line of deception.
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Bull Daly Wrote:Jackson,

You are right in that it is just one game. They say a team shows more improvement from the first to the second game, so lets hope the Cuse improves in a major way. If not, then you can bet that Syracuse will be looking for a new coach.

USF sure looked ugly the first few games last season. Sometimes teams need to gel, especially if there is a lot of youth on the team.

But, I agree with most have said. If no serious improvement is made over the season, Robinson should go.

The difference is USF and Cincinnati, who also struggled early last year, is that those schools were young but showed signs of potential. Syracuse looks like they have a lack of talent on the defensive end. There has been no sign of improvement, the offense is horrible, though a young QB could do that. But the defense is terrible, again. They can't even pretend to stop the run.
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RE: Syracuse Game Thread
CatsClaw Wrote:
BullsFanatic Wrote:
Bull Daly Wrote:Jackson,

You are right in that it is just one game. They say a team shows more improvement from the first to the second game, so lets hope the Cuse improves in a major way. If not, then you can bet that Syracuse will be looking for a new coach.

USF sure looked ugly the first few games last season. Sometimes teams need to gel, especially if there is a lot of youth on the team.

But, I agree with most have said. If no serious improvement is made over the season, Robinson should go.

The difference is USF and Cincinnati, who also struggled early last year, is that those schools were young but showed signs of potential. Syracuse looks like they have a lack of talent on the defensive end. There has been no sign of improvement, the offense is horrible, though a young QB could do that. But the defense is terrible, again. They can't even pretend to stop the run.


I gotta agree... based on 1 game, there doesn't seem to be much progression at all.
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RE: Syracuse Game Thread
CatsClaw Wrote:
BullsFanatic Wrote:
Bull Daly Wrote:Jackson,

You are right in that it is just one game. They say a team shows more improvement from the first to the second game, so lets hope the Cuse improves in a major way. If not, then you can bet that Syracuse will be looking for a new coach.

USF sure looked ugly the first few games last season. Sometimes teams need to gel, especially if there is a lot of youth on the team.

But, I agree with most have said. If no serious improvement is made over the season, Robinson should go.

The difference is USF and Cincinnati, who also struggled early last year, is that those schools were young but showed signs of potential. Syracuse looks like they have a lack of talent on the defensive end. There has been no sign of improvement, the offense is horrible, though a young QB could do that. But the defense is terrible, again. They can't even pretend to stop the run.

SU's QB was getting rocked all night, after the first quarter or so he started playing scared. Their O line is a major problem imo. This is a setback for anyone coming out of the BE with national title hopes.
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wvucrazed Wrote:
CatsClaw Wrote:
BullsFanatic Wrote:
Bull Daly Wrote:Jackson,

You are right in that it is just one game. They say a team shows more improvement from the first to the second game, so lets hope the Cuse improves in a major way. If not, then you can bet that Syracuse will be looking for a new coach.

USF sure looked ugly the first few games last season. Sometimes teams need to gel, especially if there is a lot of youth on the team.

But, I agree with most have said. If no serious improvement is made over the season, Robinson should go.

The difference is USF and Cincinnati, who also struggled early last year, is that those schools were young but showed signs of potential. Syracuse looks like they have a lack of talent on the defensive end. There has been no sign of improvement, the offense is horrible, though a young QB could do that. But the defense is terrible, again. They can't even pretend to stop the run.


I gotta agree... based on 1 game, there doesn't seem to be much progression at all.

This is the 3rd year under Robinson not the first game. People act like this has been going on for one game. Really, have you seen ANY improvement by Syracuse? I know there is rebuilding, but even when you're rebuilding you show signs of improvement, have you seen ANY signs of improvement from Syracuse over the last few years? You don't get beat at home, on national television, by 30 points to a team coming off a 5-7 and just say "oh it's only one game".
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RE: Syracuse Game Thread
CatsClaw Wrote:
wvucrazed Wrote:
CatsClaw Wrote:
BullsFanatic Wrote:
Bull Daly Wrote:Jackson,

You are right in that it is just one game. They say a team shows more improvement from the first to the second game, so lets hope the Cuse improves in a major way. If not, then you can bet that Syracuse will be looking for a new coach.

USF sure looked ugly the first few games last season. Sometimes teams need to gel, especially if there is a lot of youth on the team.

But, I agree with most have said. If no serious improvement is made over the season, Robinson should go.

The difference is USF and Cincinnati, who also struggled early last year, is that those schools were young but showed signs of potential. Syracuse looks like they have a lack of talent on the defensive end. There has been no sign of improvement, the offense is horrible, though a young QB could do that. But the defense is terrible, again. They can't even pretend to stop the run.


I gotta agree... based on 1 game, there doesn't seem to be much progression at all.

This is the 3rd year under Robinson not the first game. People act like this has been going on for one game. Really, have you seen ANY improvement by Syracuse? I know there is rebuilding, but even when you're rebuilding you show signs of improvement, have you seen ANY signs of improvement from Syracuse over the last few years? You don't get beat at home, on national television, by 30 points to a team coming off a 5-7 and just say "oh it's only one game".

No - that's why I said after 1 game (of this season so far), they don't show any progession at all... i.e. they still appear to be as sucky as they've been the last 2 years.
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wvucrazed Wrote:
CatsClaw Wrote:
wvucrazed Wrote:
CatsClaw Wrote:
BullsFanatic Wrote:
Bull Daly Wrote:Jackson,

You are right in that it is just one game. They say a team shows more improvement from the first to the second game, so lets hope the Cuse improves in a major way. If not, then you can bet that Syracuse will be looking for a new coach.

USF sure looked ugly the first few games last season. Sometimes teams need to gel, especially if there is a lot of youth on the team.

But, I agree with most have said. If no serious improvement is made over the season, Robinson should go.

The difference is USF and Cincinnati, who also struggled early last year, is that those schools were young but showed signs of potential. Syracuse looks like they have a lack of talent on the defensive end. There has been no sign of improvement, the offense is horrible, though a young QB could do that. But the defense is terrible, again. They can't even pretend to stop the run.


I gotta agree... based on 1 game, there doesn't seem to be much progression at all.

This is the 3rd year under Robinson not the first game. People act like this has been going on for one game. Really, have you seen ANY improvement by Syracuse? I know there is rebuilding, but even when you're rebuilding you show signs of improvement, have you seen ANY signs of improvement from Syracuse over the last few years? You don't get beat at home, on national television, by 30 points to a team coming off a 5-7 and just say "oh it's only one game".

No - that's why I said after 1 game (of this season so far), they don't show any progession at all... i.e. they still appear to be as sucky as they've been the last 2 years.

Ooops, sorry! LOL! I thought you were saying give them time. Someone was just saying that to me and I was baffled. I was thinking the same thing you were, it's been over 2 years!
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42-12 Washington over Syracuse. Washington looked very good and Willingham is a good coach despite failure at Notre Dame. Syracuse was the first Big East to play a BCS team this year. Big East was an impressive 3-0 on Thursday, but the competion was not even top 150 in nation. Washington plays in the PAC Ten and they made Syracuse look every bit as bad as Rutgers made Buffalo look Thursday nite. Either Washington is top 25, or Syracuse is really terrible.
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Serious Ugly...If you call right at 8:00 a.m. tomorrow morning, you might get a shot at the Sun Belt Conference before Iowa State gets it....lol....03-wink
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OUBOBCATJOHN Wrote:42-12 Washington over Syracuse. Washington looked very good and Willingham is a good coach despite failure at Notre Dame. Syracuse was the first Big East to play a BCS team this year. Big East was an impressive 3-0 on Thursday, but the competion was not even top 150 in nation. Washington plays in the PAC Ten and they made Syracuse look every bit as bad as Rutgers made Buffalo look Thursday nite. Either Washington is top 25, or Syracuse is really terrible.

Obviously your post is a thinly veiled show at the Big East claiming the Big East didn't play anybody, the Pac-10, etc., etc. So if/when Cincinnati beats Oregon State will you run over to the Pac-10 board and make the same posts? Look, we don't care what the competition is, the Big East doesn't have to impress you, we already know we're an elite conference. Why don't you count how many BCS teams the Big 12 or ACC plays.
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You can stick a fork in the orange this year. Robinson has to go-period.
I'd cancel the rest of the season.
Syracuse has nothing to build on. Robinson has done nothing for two years and will do nothing this year. This guy is a bust.
I saw so many missed tackles- what do they practice on statues?
Even the announcer was telling the syracuse defense to get thier feet under the offensive player.
Syracuse looked like a bunch of fools and I'm alumni.
Anybody who takes a positive out of the three seasons with coach robinson is just plain crazy.
Thank goodness UCONN is playing Duke this year because Duke would mop up the floor with Syracuse.
Not only wuld I fire Coach Robinson, I'd make him give back every penny I paid him. He hasn't earned a nickle.
Syracuse's performance hurts the big east. No other way to look at it. Something has to be done - like tonight.
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CatsClaw Wrote:
OUBOBCATJOHN Wrote:42-12 Washington over Syracuse. Washington looked very good and Willingham is a good coach despite failure at Notre Dame. Syracuse was the first Big East to play a BCS team this year. Big East was an impressive 3-0 on Thursday, but the competion was not even top 150 in nation. Washington plays in the PAC Ten and they made Syracuse look every bit as bad as Rutgers made Buffalo look Thursday nite. Either Washington is top 25, or Syracuse is really terrible.

Obviously your post is a thinly veiled show at the Big East claiming the Big East didn't play anybody, the Pac-10, etc., etc. So if/when Cincinnati beats Oregon State will you run over to the Pac-10 board and make the same posts? Look, we don't care what the competition is, the Big East doesn't have to impress you, we already know we're an elite conference. Why don't you count how many BCS teams the Big 12 or ACC plays.

I'd be very interested to see Cinci beat Oregon State. Will definitely be a good win if the BE pulls it off. But of course, if you lose then there's gonna be crow to eat.
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Wow. I hated watching Syracuse get beat like that. Don't you have any football talent in that state?
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frogman Wrote:You can stick a fork in the orange this year. Robinson has to go-period.
I'd cancel the rest of the season.
Syracuse has nothing to build on. Robinson has done nothing for two years and will do nothing this year. This guy is a bust.
I saw so many missed tackles- what do they practice on statues?
Even the announcer was telling the syracuse defense to get thier feet under the offensive player.
Syracuse looked like a bunch of fools and I'm alumni.
Anybody who takes a positive out of the three seasons with coach robinson is just plain crazy.
Thank goodness UCONN is playing Duke this year because Duke would mop up the floor with Syracuse.
Not only wuld I fire Coach Robinson, I'd make him give back every penny I paid him. He hasn't earned a nickle.
Syracuse's performance hurts the big east. No other way to look at it. Something has to be done - like tonight.

You have hit the nail on the head. Syracuse was totally unprepared for the game tonight. Hopefully, you guys can rebound next week against Iowa. Good luck. The Big East needs a strong Syracuse football team.
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When UC, UofL, and USF were added to the Big East I remember the Syracuse boards as being particularly hard on the Big East selecting UC - how UC did not belong, their football stinks, etc.

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Well, it started out all right.

The Orange emerged from its locker room, arm-in-arm in a pseudo-Revolutionary War marching formation, led by Joe Fields serving as a kind of plumed general. And that was nicely theatrical. Then, on the first drive of this 2007 campaign, the Syracuse University guys followed Andrew Robinson down the rug for a field goal and a quick 3-0 lead over the Washington Huskies. And that was pretty good, too.

And then? Um, then the steamy night unraveled. Steadily, miserably, embarrassingly.

Perhaps, and this will pain the faithful, predictably.

That SU eventually lost 42-12 to the Huskies, who'd landed among us with eight wins in the last three years, was dismal enough. That it lost so overwhelmingly, and amid such confusion, to an outfit believed to be embarking on a fifth consecutive non-winning season can be most charitably considered discouraging.

A corner was supposed to have been turned on Friday evening at the Carrier Dome. The Orange, in the third chapter of the football tome being authored by Greg Robinson, was going to show signs of separation from its '05 and '06 forebears who'd gone 1-10 and 4-8, respectively.

But, no. What the buoyant-turned-aggrieved crowd of 40,329 got, instead, was the sight of the local club getting mauled by a Pac-10 mediocrity.

And that inspires the question: If the so-so Huskies can have their way with this Syracuse outfit - and in the Dome, yet . . . on Opening Night . . . with that presumed inspiration-producing statue of Ernie Davis being unveiled at halftime - what are those Mountaineers and Cardinals and Scarlet Knights and Hawkeyes and Bulls (South Florida edition) going to do?

Heck, what havoc might those other Bulls, the ones from Buffalo, wreak?

It's only the first day of September, sure. But having seen the ugliness that was there to be seen beneath the bubble on the last day of August, it's not too early to fret. Thirty-point defeats, following bold talk of improvement by coaches and players, can do that to a town. And the football portion of ours has to be clearly shaken on this morning.

"It's a hard loss," admitted Robinson, who dropped to 5-19 on the Orange bridge and was as ashen-faced as a man of his perennial tan can be. "There's no doubt about it. Our expectations were higher than that. I think we can play better than that. But was is, is.

"I'm not going to sit here and tell you I was considering getting beat by a bunch. I knew that we could get beat. I think there are no guarantees, winning and losing. But I would have liked to have seen a better performance than what I saw."

What he saw would have been better viewed through cracked fingers. SU's offensive line yielded seven sacks of poor Andrew Robinson, the sophomore quarterback in his first-ever college start, and opened up slivers, not holes, through which the Orange gained eight - e-i-g-h-t - net yards of rushing. Meanwhile, the Syracuse defense yielded 380 yards on five successive Washington possessions (or an average of 76 yards per), a collapse that was as stunning as it was nearly inconceivable.

And it left more than a few of the chin-strapped locals reeling.

"I want to believe we have a good group of guys and we're going to keep going," said Fields, the senior safety. "But right now, it's tough. We've been working so long for this moment. To be on national TV . . . and this happens? We definitely didn't see this coming. This is going to eat me up."

Like he's breaded and lying next to some linguine.

One meal down (and badly) . . . 11 to go.

Bud Poliquin can be reached at 470-2213 or bpoliquin@syracuse.com.
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