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LOL.
Here comes loserboy #2 STK. Why am I not surprised. Im sure loser #3 will come by soon enough.

It looks like the deal will not happen, but im sure USF will find someoneelse.
07-13-2007 07:30 AM
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Cubanbull Wrote:LOL.
I wouldnt care what they named it as long as the money is flowing in. In my mind it will always be the SunDome.
Its like Dolphin stadium that has changed named like 3-4 times but everyone still calls it Robbe stadium.

We are all looking forward to using those funds to upgrade the arena and our basketball program under Coach Heath has brought back an excitement for basketball at our school that has been missing for a long time.

I agree... congrats on the naming right agreement.. just couldnt resist a bit of a 03-nerner smart eleck remark... just had article in slantinal today.. UCF season tix sales now over 20k...
07-13-2007 07:43 AM
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KNIGHTTIME Wrote:he fits right in at S. Fla...03-lmfao Don't you think [name]?

didnt read the follow up article till just now.. 03-nerner never ending story...
07-13-2007 07:47 AM
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Well is neverending because it was announced before it was official, so it was not known why the discussions had lasted so long. Now we know why.
Im not concerned about it, if it happens great if not USF will find someoneelse. Sooner or later it will happen. We just must continue to do the best with what we have.
If we could win playing out of trailers, then USF can handle this.
07-13-2007 07:53 AM
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agree.. somebody will pony up the $$$
07-13-2007 07:57 AM
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Quote:Well is neverending because it was announced before it was official, so it was not known why the discussions had lasted so long. Now we know why.
Im not concerned about it, if it happens great if not USF will find someoneelse. Sooner or later it will happen. We just must continue to do the best with what we have.
If we could win playing out of trailers, then USF can handle this.

Cuban, you don't understand the deal do you, USF entered into a contract with Action Sports Media to sell the naming rights. It appears that they have the right to sell the naming rights and they are not backing down. USF does not want to sell the rights to the Financial Service Company, but Action Sports Media is continuing to do so. On the news last night, they said USF will have to go to court to stop the sale. Action sports media will most likely want money from USF to stop the sale as they were going to get a commission from the sale to the Financial Services Company. Either way, getting out of this will cost USF more money.
07-13-2007 08:16 AM
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Ill wait and see the outcome of all of this. Thanks for caring
07-13-2007 08:23 AM
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goodknightfl Wrote:
KNIGHTTIME Wrote:he fits right in at S. Fla...03-lmfao Don't you think [name]?

didnt read the follow up article till just now.. 03-nerner never ending story...

Here's the f/u article.

I actually almost feel sorry for USF...that's ALMOST!

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/07/13/Sports..._are.shtml

CEO past is a new arena hurdle
A local student-loan company wants Sun Dome naming rights, but USF is hesitant.
By GREG AUMAN
Published July 13, 2007


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A Tampa student-loan company's pursuit of naming rights for the USF Sun Dome, which would give the university about $2-million over the next six years, faces increasing resistance that could scuttle any deal.

But sticking points occurred well before Thursday, when Academic Financial Services chief executive officer Wayne Morgan's long history of arrests became public. The school and the company it contracted to broker a deal have been bickering for months over USF's hesitance to enter into a relationship with an industry facing governmental scrutiny about its practices.

"How difficult is it to turn our backs on a half-million dollars a year? It's easy to say, 'Give me the money,' " said Steven Oscher, president of Sun Dome Inc., which manages the basketball arena. "I don't care about Mr. Morgan or AFS. My concern is we are dealing with an industry facing questions on a national level, and we have to do what's best for the university."

AFS has been in exclusive negotiations with Action Sports Media, a company hired by USF last year to sell the arena's naming rights. As those talks were made public Thursday, so too was news that Morgan, 36, has been convicted of multiple felonies, news he fears puts the sponsorship deal in greater jeopardy.

"Absolutely," Morgan said. "People will look at that and say, 'He must be a bad guy.' It's human nature. I always say it's not who you were, it's who you are."

Morgan heads a company that specializes in student-loan financing and has about 275 employees, with its headquarters on Waters Avenue. AFS is a prominent sponsor of the Rays and Lightning, and Morgan was recently honored with the Tampa Bay Sports Commission's Distinguished Community Service Award.

What Action Sports Media didn't know until Thursday was that Morgan has a long list of arrests and guilty pleas, according to public records. Records show guilty pleas from 1993-96 on charges ranging from breaking and entering and safecracking to larceny and petit theft. He has twice been charged with writing worthless checks, most recently a felony charge in 2002 to which he pleaded no contest and agreed to probation and payment of more than $19,000 in restitution. Other charges, including kidnapping and carrying a concealed weapon in 1994, were dismissed.

"I was a bad person. I did things I should not have done. ... I was young and dumb. Will I ever do anything like that again? Absolutely not," said Morgan, whose most recent probation ended in April 2005. "I will never be able to put it in my past. It's 2007 and people are asking me about it. I'll always have to talk about it."

The Rays and Lightning said Thursday that Morgan's criminal background is unlikely to change their business relationship with AFS, which sponsors a VIP club at the St. Pete Times Forum and a "college night" promotion at Tropicana Field.

"Of course that concerns us, but as long as AFS remains an upstanding sponsor, doing the right things in the community for its clients, I don't see any reason for change," Lightning spokesman Bill Wickett said.

Said Rick Vaughn, the Rays' vice president of communications, "At this point, we can only judge AFS by the experience we've had with them, and that's been very positive."

The dividing issue at USF is whether the university even has the right to veto a sponsor that Action Sports Media reaches an agreement with. As far back as May, USF and the Sun Dome had expressed in letters to Action Sports an objection to "associating ourselves, in such a prominent way, with an industry so embroiled in controversy."

Action Sports Media provided USF with $2-million in video scoreboards last year and will receive a portion of revenues from sponsorship.

In a release Thursday night, Action Sports argued that the contract it signed with USF last year does not give the university any control over the choice of a sponsor, providing the agreement is at least $400,000 a year for at least five years, or with increased advertising signs in the arena.

"Neither the university nor Sun Dome Inc. has the right to approve the sale or to reject AFS as the naming rights sponsor for the facility," Action Sports wrote.

Oscher disagrees and said USF's general counsel has reviewed the contract to back up the university's position to approve or veto a sponsor that has such a prominent place on USF's most iconic building.

"It's a legal interpretation, and our general counsel has indicated that not only do I have a right, I have an obligation," he said. "We would be remiss in many regards if we proceeded with something that has this many question marks around it."

Times researcher Caryn Baird contributed to this report. Greg Auman can be reached at auman@sptimes.com or (813) 226-3346.
07-13-2007 11:18 AM
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LOL. You guys are somethingelse.
As I said Im sure it will be worked out.
Thanks for caring
07-13-2007 11:21 AM
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KNIGHTTIME Wrote:Don't you think [name]?

I think that gag has become extremely dated.
07-13-2007 11:32 AM
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KNIGHTTIME Wrote:
Cubanbull Wrote:I tell you whats funny is that they cant win on the field so must gloat on any possible negative news about USF in order to feel better about themselves.

If I was a UCF grad I would be embarassed to have such type as representing my school.


It is just amazing that so many dirty people are involved around S. Florida. From stealing state funds, to players arrested, to the rumors about Leavitt and his secretary, and now this crook that will get his business name on your arena. Sounds like Enron over on the west coast...


If you are going to make an asss of yourself at least try to be somewhat accurate.

1. stealing state funds - wrong. USF like many other grant receiving institutions has a problem with grants management and interpreting the archaic OMB circulars governing usage of federal grants dollars. Nice try...

2. Leavitt - surely someone related to UCiF football has been divorced. What does this have to do with football? Oh and if you are going to bring up character....what does it say about UCiF when hires a disgraced coach that lied on his CV?

3. Players arrested - I guess Brandon Marshall never got arrested? The difference is that the media in Orlando doesn't scrutinize your program as much as the Bulls get covered in TampaBay. BTW...I guess someone should take away UF's national title since they have average at least 4 players per year getting arrested for way more serious charges than any USF player. Again nice try...

Let us know when you want talk football. That is comparing LBs, DLs, QBs etc...oh that's right.....that is not UCiF fans strongpoint.
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it's always amusing when ucf fans try to play the morality police with george o'leary as their coach. the naming rights issue seems like a giant clusterf*** it could get worse before it gets any better seems both sides are not going to budge. i think it was a nice strategic move from action sports to go to the tampa tribune.
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What is amazing is why would Action sports want them in the first place. First, the industry as a whole is about to go under because the Senate is working on a new bill that will basically kill third party lending institutions just like the one in question with USF. Add to that, that Academic Financial Services could not make payroll a few months ago already and you have to question if they will be able to make these payments to USF in the first place.

Sounds to me that Actions Sports was having a hard time finding somone to sponsor the Sundome and jumped at the first one to come along.

Student loan mess
07-13-2007 10:53 PM
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South Tampa Knight Wrote:Sounds to me that Actions Sports was having a hard time finding somone to sponsor the Sundome and jumped at the first one to come along.

Student loan mess

Remember, USF (and now Action Sports) have been trying for 5 plus years to sell the naming rights to the beautiful SunDome.

Most thought it was going to be easy to sell naming rights after 3 years of trying....because USF was going to start up Big East Basketball.

But now, getting ready to start their 3rd year in Big East Basketball this November...this is the only interested party they could find?

5 years of work...and THIS is who they try and make a deal with?
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Why am I not surprised that Central Florida fans hijacked ANOTHER South Florida thread on the Big East board? I guess big brother has them riled up again!
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South Tampa Knight Wrote:Sounds to me that Actions Sports was having a hard time finding somone to sponsor the Sundome and jumped at the first one to come along.

Student loan mess

Remember, USF (and now Action Sports) have been trying for 5 plus years to sell the naming rights to the beautiful SunDome.

Most thought it was going to be easy to sell naming rights after 3 years of trying....because USF was going to start up Big East Basketball.

But now, getting ready to start their 3rd year in Big East Basketball this November...this is the only interested party they could find?

5 years of work...and THIS is who they try and make a deal with?

And yet South Florida is STILL more attractive then Central Florida! Damn that must hurt! 03-lmfao
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Claw, more attractive to whom?
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You are right STK.
USF is a horrible place, we are going down and we will get kicked out of the Big East and go into Sun Belt where we will be in the cellar for years. While UCF with all its glorious facilities will be accepted into the SEC and in two years win the national championship , the stadium will be expanded to 110,000 seats next year when UCF announces that all 45,000 seats are season tckets and there is a waiting line of 250,000.
03-lmfao
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South Tampa Knight Wrote:Claw, more attractive to whom?

More attractive to the Big East clearly since they're here and you're in C-USA.
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A handful of UCF fans sure do make their fanbase look ridiculous. If I were a UCF fan on these boards I'd be more than a little peeved at them.
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