Yet another Duke Chronicle article about how Franks should be fired. This one compares Texas AandM's Slocum who got fired after .715 win percentage and no losing seasons in 13 years, to Franks' .111 win percentage, and best season of 3-8 his first year. Says Duke has everything it takes to win and start making money except for good coaches:


<a href='http://www.chronicle.duke.edu/vnews/display.v/ART/2002/12/04/3dee25ce23f7c' target='_blank'>http://www.chronicle.duke.edu/vnews/displa...4/3dee25ce23f7c</a>

Some idiots think Franks should stay and hire an OC, well QB coach Pry is the one calling the plays, and he was an outstanding record setting OC before Franks ruined him:


" native of Altoona, Pa., and a 1974 graduate of Marshall University, Pry spent 11 seasons as the offensive coordinator and offensive line coach at East Stroudsburg (Pa.) University. He helped East Stroudsburg to a league title and NCAA Division II playoff berth in 1991 and enjoyed a record-setting season in 1996. In 1996, the Warrior offense led NCAA Division II in total offense and passing offense while setting 54 school, conference and national records....

As the offensive coordinator at VMI from 1985-88, Pry coached with Duke head coach Carl Franks during the 1985 season. During Pry's tenure at VMI, the Keydet offense established 27 school records on offense."


<a href='http://goduke.ocsn.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/pry_jim00.html' target='_blank'>http://goduke.ocsn.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt.../pry_jim00.html</a>



From thedevilsden:


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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2002 8:33 pm Post subject: just to clear somethign up

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Franks doesn't call plays. Pry does. Franks is called the OC, I think, because it's his playbook. Basically, he makes all the plays, and Pry chooses which ones to run during the game.

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finally the truth is out. "


It's hilarious how Franks can take a record setting OC who led all of div.II in offense, and a fantastic defensive coordiator who took the ACC's worst defense ever to 6th in ACC and 1st against run in his first year, and lose like his life depends on it. Obviously Duke needs a new offense and should consider great offensive head coaches like Urban Meyer of Bowling Green, Grobe of Wake, who can win with balanced offenses with mediocre talent. USC's Norm Chow is the highest paid assistant in the country and seems to immediately turn QBs into Heisman candidates or winners everywhere he goes, he may be the best pass oriented offensive coach in the country, and may be interviewing at Utah of all places, Duke would be a much better choice.



<!--EDIT|Deep Blue|Dec 15 2002, 11:55 PM-->

Hey Blue Balls,

Looks like you will have to wait 3 more years to hire Grobe.



<!--EDIT|Big Pimpin Deac|Dec 16 2002, 02:24 PM-->

Actually Alleva gave Franks 3 more years for 4 years total left on his contract. Got to be tough for the 50 year Duke fball fans who still buy tickets, but it's a lot of fun for the many who think Franks is wrong for Duke to watch him lose in new and exciting ways. It really is quite an accomplishment to go 0-23, and 0-25 in the ACC and counting, even though some expected it.

Franks in the bottom 10 again, continues to make history:

<a href='http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/powerranking?pollId=3' target='_blank'>http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/powerranking?pollId=3</a>



<!--EDIT|Deep Blue|Dec 16 2002, 10:46 PM-->

Whew!! That's a relief. So I guess we get to keep Grobe for four more years before he goes to Duke and leads them to consecutive national championships, then leaves for Boston College to turn them into the most powerful football program in the history of college football. Do I have it right?

Who said you get to keep Grobe for four more years? Just hope he doesn't have another mediocre season next year, or he could be the highest paid coach in the NFL. BC's doing fine.

Well, I just assumed from reading your insightful, well-written, intelligent posts that Grobe is just sitting back waiting for his dream job to open up at Duke. Then, he and Wellman can turn Duke into the top football program in the conference. Also, he would want to get there before Duke leaves for The Atlantic League.

Interesting post from thedevilsden, some delusional Duke football fans think Franks is recruiting well but the current recruiting class is the worst by far in the ACC in terms of talent, just like every other recruiting class from Franks, and guaranteed to plummet even further since Duke is only looking at even lower ranked prospects and has room for only 2 more recruits, while each of the rest of the ACC is expected to bring in several more bluechips between now and signing day:

"PJLowman
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Location: Southern Pines, NC
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2003 7:57 pm Post subject: rating the classes by Rivals stars

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Raw Class Rating:
Virginia - 7th
NC State - 21st
Carolina - 25th
Maryland - 28th
Georgia Tech - 37th
Florida State - 41st
Wake Forest - 60th
Duke - 61st
Clemson - 64th

Average Star Rating:
1) Florida State - 3.83
2) t - NC State
t - Carolina - 3.31
4) Virginia - 3.22
5) Wake Forest - 3.00
6) Clemson - 2.83
7) Maryland - 2.81
8) Georgia Tech - 2.69
9) Duke - 2.50 "

Duke Alum,

What year did you graduate?

Duke has been cutting corners academically in football, and still Franks has a 5-40 record. Duke no longer makes the list of top academic football programs according to interviews with two dozen coaches, recruiting coordinators, and academic coordinators:


"The five toughest schools academically and the five easiest for recruiting purposes:


Hardest

1. Rice: Said to be the only school that doesn't bend its academic rules for athletes.

2. Stanford: By far the toughest school on the West Coast.

3. Wake Forest: Duke can get in players that Wake can't.

4. Northwestern: Notre Dame has rep, but Northwestern is more stringent.

5. Army and Navy: These service academies are tougher than Air Force.


<a href='http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-gradrecruit12jan12,0,2639957.story?coll=sfla%2Dsports%2Dheadlines' target='_blank'>http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/sfl-gra...rts%2Dheadlines</a>



According to the link below and NCAA division I grad rates report, Duke in 97 had football SAT average of 1012 - 1068 and academic standards almost as tough as Stanford, Rice, and Northwestern, and Goldsmith, Wilson, and all other Duke football coaches won far more than Franks. Wake had 911 SATs in 97, and Grobe seems to be recruiting smarter players and winning even more, while Duke academic standards, grad rates, and win percentage have all plummeted with Franks. By the way, why did Duke officially announce that it was lowering standards for football? Lowering standards is one thing, but it seems strange to brag about it publicly as a recruiting tool just to placate furious Duke football fans and try to save Franks and Alleva's jobs at the expense of the university's reputation, do they realize they work for Duke and not themselves?


<a href='http://stanford.theinsiders.com/3/1997_SAT_Analysis.html' target='_blank'>http://stanford.theinsiders.com/3/1997_SAT...T_Analysis.html</a>?



<!--EDIT|Duke Alum|Jan 14 2003, 01:58 AM-->

Duke Alum Wrote:Grobe seems to be recruiting smarter players and winning even more

In one of your more intelligent posts before this past football season, you boldly proclaimed that "weak has to cheat to win, but there is no way ACC officials will continue to allow a team with inferior athletes to injure superior athletes at other schools. Look for them to return to their normal place this year". Now, after a seven win season, you are praising our coach and athletes. Not that you would ever contradict yourself or anything.



<!--EDIT|Big Pimpin Deac|Jan 14 2003, 02:03 PM-->