a outstanding piece that ran last year. just won a peabody, and its available for free for a limited time on their website. focuses on the erosion of habeas corpus.

RebelKev Wrote:

thats the problem, when confronted with the erosion of personal rights people just yawn. history is not going to look favorably on our generation b/c no one stood up against this, or felt it even mattered.

niuhuskie84 Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

thats the problem, when confronted with the erosion of personal rights people just yawn. history is not going to look favorably on our generation b/c no one stood up against this, or felt it even mattered.

Whatever. REAL erosions of human rights occurred during WWII, which, I might add, were caused by a Democrat, and history does NOT look unfavorably on him.

Kinda kills your story, doesn't it?

Again......

RebelKev Wrote:

niuhuskie84 Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

thats the problem, when confronted with the erosion of personal rights people just yawn. history is not going to look favorably on our generation b/c no one stood up against this, or felt it even mattered.

Whatever. REAL erosions of human rights occurred during WWII, which, I might add, were caused by a Democrat, and history does NOT look unfavorably on him.

Kinda kills your story, doesn't it?

Again......

i dunno what high school history class you took, but we sure weren't taught that internment japanese camps were a proud moment for this country.

and i dont remember brining democrats or republicans into the discussion.

niuhuskie84 Wrote:i dunno what high school history class you took, but we sure weren't taught that internment japanese camps were a proud moment for this country.

and i dont remember brining democrats or republicans into the discussion.

Please, the entire gist of your post was about Bush somehow destroying human rights. Unless it was Ted Kennedy you were talking about.

niuhuskie84 Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

thats the problem, when confronted with the erosion of personal rights people just yawn. history is not going to look favorably on our generation b/c no one stood up against this, or felt it even mattered.

I suspect that history will look back on this generation and point out how STUPID so many do-gooders were for trying to impose poorly conceived mores on peoples who are explicitly fighting against, and who who are using asymmetric tactics which violate, those self-same mores.

The political left is so sanctimonious that it doesn't have the slightest clue as to its own hubris and hypocrisy.

The political right is so hell-bent on ignoring the political left, that it has tunnel vision and is unable to respond when the landscape changes; and it doesn't take the time to educate and build support.

DrTorch Wrote:

niuhuskie84 Wrote:

RebelKev Wrote:

thats the problem, when confronted with the erosion of personal rights people just yawn. history is not going to look favorably on our generation b/c no one stood up against this, or felt it even mattered.

I suspect that history will look back on this generation and point out how STUPID so many do-gooders were for trying to impose poorly conceived mores on peoples who are explicitly fighting against, and who who are using asymmetric tactics which violate, those self-same mores.

The political left is so sanctimonious that it doesn't have the slightest clue as to its own hubris and hypocrisy.

The political right is so hell-bent on ignoring the political left, that it has tunnel vision and is unable to respond when the landscape changes; and it doesn't take the time to educate and build support.

What he said.

RebelKev Wrote:

niuhuskie84 Wrote:i dunno what high school history class you took, but we sure weren't taught that internment japanese camps were a proud moment for this country.

and i dont remember brining democrats or republicans into the discussion.

Please, the entire gist of your post was about Bush somehow destroying human rights. Unless it was Ted Kennedy you were talking about.

the "gist"?? all i did was provide a link, that im going to guess no one even bothered to listen to.