Machiavelli
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Guess the person who said this????????????
Mystery candidate X....
"I think for us to get American military personnel involved in a civil war inside Iraq would literally be a quagmire. Once we got to Baghdad, what would we do? Who would we put in power? What kind of government? Would it be a Sunni government, a Shia government, a Kurdish government?
"Would it be secular, along the lines of the Baath party? Would it be fundamentalist Islamic?" he asked. "I do not think the United States wants to have U.S. military forces accept casualties and accept responsibility of trying to govern Iraq. It makes no sense at all."
Mystery Candidate Y...............
question on when to use military strength
Well, if it's in our vital national interest, and that means whether our territory is threatened or people could be harmed, whether or not the alliances are -- our defense alliances are threatened, whether or not our friends in the Middle East are threatened. That would be a time to seriously consider the use of force. Secondly, whether or not the mission was clear. Whether or not it was a clear understanding as to what the mission would be. Thirdly, whether or not we were prepared and trained to win. Whether or not our forces were of high morale and high standing and well-equipped. And finally, whether or not there was an exit strateg. I would take the use of force very seriously. I would be guarded in my approach. I don't think we can be all things to all people in the world. [/size]I think we've got to be very careful when we commit our troops. The XXXXXXXXX and I have a disagreement about the use of troops. He believes in nation building. I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders. I believe the role of the military is to fight and win war and therefore prevent war from happening in the first place. So I would take my responsibility seriously. And it starts with making sure we rebuild our military power. Morale in today's military is too low. We're having trouble meeting recruiting goals. We met the goals this year, but in the previous years we have not met recruiting goals. Some of our troops are not well-equipped. I believe we're overextended in too many places. And therefore I want to rebuild the military power.
Don't cheat and do a google search. Who are these two????
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DrTorch
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Re: Guess the person who said this????????????
Machiavelli Wrote:Mystery candidate X....
Mystery Candidate Y...............
And your posts as usual leave all of us ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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Machiavelli
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Machiavelli
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Y is W. I don't think you'll get X.
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Try not to leave out some of the important lines to this speach as well.
Quote: I believe the role of the military is to fight and win war and therefore prevent war from happening in the first place.
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BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:Is X Dick Cheney?
Ding.
What I want to know is who taught Dogger bbcode. Now his posts are almost impossible to read for reasons other than the content.
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Lethemeul Wrote:What I want to know is who taught Dogger bbcode. Now his posts are almost impossible to read for reasons other than the content.
Reminds me of wyldpirate. That dude just loved to makes his posts look funky.
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Machiavelli
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I found it myself oneday. I don't like it either. I'll just bold the stuff from now on. I fixed it.
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Machiavelli Wrote:I found it myself oneday. I don't like it either. I'll just bold the stuff from now on.
Thank you.
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Machiavelli
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Now,
You tell me why Democrats aren't using their own words against Bush and Cheney? If we had a Rove they would be using Rush and Hannity to bong them over the head with this daily. If I was in charge you would see this daily. Every friendly media outlet would have Bush and Cheney repeating these words above. You think it would be very effective.
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If I'm not mistaken both those statements came pre 9/11.
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speaking of Dick Cheney, Does anyone else see Fred Thompson atleast from a political theatrics view an electable version of Cheney? commanding presence, blunt but articulate, etc.....I could see him giving our enemies a thing or two to think about just by his posture alone, ala Cheney.
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The biggest knock on Thompson is his lack of experience. He's obviously a good communicator and comes across as blunt, but likable.
As an aisde, Slate.com has a funny Thompson ad.
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oh yeah, to play the "who said it" game...
Which public figure in the past advocated War for Oil in a major prime time speech?
hint: he's relevant to the current standoff with Iran.
[quote]The region which is now threatened by Soviet troops in Afghanistan is of great strategic importance: [b]It contains more than two-thirds of the world
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