Terpy Wrote:

flyingswoosh Wrote:

Terpy Wrote:Clemens was definitely juicing too, but you are right, he will probably get in. He was skinny early in his career too, the only difference is Bonds and McGuire got buff and he got fat.

fat? you think clemens is fat? fat people don't put up numbers like that.

Yes, he is fat, we have already discussed this.

no he isn't, and i know we have. he's in amazing shape.

Yeah, him and Jim Belushi and Kevin James. lmfao lmfao lmfao

Terpy Wrote:Yeah, him and Jim Belushi and Kevin James. lmfao lmfao lmfao

i still can't believe you think clemens is fat. i don't think an out of shape pitcher can put up those numbers.

Its called steroids.

flyingswoosh Wrote:tremendous? IMO, only mcgwire, bonds and palmeiro have been under tremendous fire.

Well, obviously there are degrees and Clemens hasn't gotten as much heat as those players, but his name has been involved in the controversy. Remember this?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/0...4245.shtml

Yeah and there was the whole conspiracy theory that he didnt start playing until late last season because his fat ass was secretly suspended for steroids.

GDawgs88 Wrote:

flyingswoosh Wrote:tremendous? IMO, only mcgwire, bonds and palmeiro have been under tremendous fire.

Well, obviously there are degrees and Clemens hasn't gotten as much heat as those players, but his name has been involved in the controversy. Remember this?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/0...4245.shtml

yeah, i remember, but that article didn't get a lot of publicity. it was kinda shocking for a week and then it died.

Terpy Wrote:Yeah and there was the whole conspiracy theory that he didnt start playing until late last season because his fat ass was secretly suspended for steroids.

huh? i swear that i never heard that rumor.

Terpy Wrote:

did anyone else hear it?

I never heard that either, all I heard here in Houston is that he just waited till almost halfway through the season to decide to come back. If he came back this year he would most likely do the same thing again.

http://baseballistic.wordpress.com/2006/...-steroids/

You guys live in caves.

what's baseballistic? that's another thing i've never heard of.

who cares? Its just the first site that was on google. Ill give you more.

There was even an article in SI about it but you have to be a subscriber to read it.

flyingswoosh Wrote:

Terpy Wrote:

did anyone else hear it?

I heard about it. Kind of a lame conspiracy. Why wouldn't MLB have released his name if he had been suspended? They did with everyone else.

Terpy Wrote:There was even an article in SI about it but you have to be a subscriber to read it.

that, i can't believe. i mean, i go to espn.com and mlb.com literally everyday, and i never heard that rumor. I also read the baseball writers in the NY post and they never mentioned it either. There's also the fact that the rumor doesn't make any sense at all.

Terpy Wrote:There was even an article in SI about it but you have to be a subscriber to read it.

Can you post the link? I'm a subscriber.

Ok, I actually found an article on SI.com that you dont have to be a subscriber to to read it.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/wr...index.html