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MU ATO Wrote:Its funny how the BCS thrives off of opinions. That is what the BCS's foundation is.

Opinions.

Yet when a team that is NOT in a "bcs" conference then there is no way no how that they could EVER win.

Let the hypocrisy continue.

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Notre Dame isn't in a BCS Conference. Ever think that maybe BSU should start scheduling more BCS teams?
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Notre Dame is the king of frauds.
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RebelKev Wrote:
MU ATO Wrote:Its funny how the BCS thrives off of opinions. That is what the BCS's foundation is.

Opinions.

Yet when a team that is NOT in a "bcs" conference then there is no way no how that they could EVER win.

Let the hypocrisy continue.

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Notre Dame isn't in a BCS Conference. Ever think that maybe BSU should start scheduling more BCS teams?

Notre Dame.

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You will point out that you have more wins than any other program as though that is relevant to the current season. (Been playing since the 1870s!)

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So crack open an ice cold Bud Light, oh Emperor of Excuses, and take comfort knowing that when you don't finish in the top 25, you'll be back to number three when the preseason polls come out next year. (Mr. Delusional Notre Dame Fan!)
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I'm not saying Notre Dame is some strong team. What I AM saying is that the years they ARE playing well, they get to the big time....and they aren't in a BCS Conference either.

Wanna know the difference?
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RebelKev Wrote:Wanna know the difference?

unwarranted hype?
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Terpy Wrote:
RebelKev Wrote:Wanna know the difference?

unwarranted hype?

Notre Dame '06 Schedule

September 2 at Georgia Tech
September 9 No. 19 Penn State
September 16 No. 11 Michigan
September 23 at Michigan State
September 30 Purdue
October 7 Stanford
October 21 UCLA
October 28 at Navy
November 4 North Carolina
November 11 at Air Force
November 18 Army
November 25 at No. 3 USC
January 3 vs No. 3 LSU*

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Boise State '06 Schedule

August 31 Sacramento State
September 7 Oregon State
September 16 at Wyoming
September 23 Hawaii
September 30 at Utah
October 7 Louisiana Tech
October 15 at New Mexico State
October 21 at Idaho
November 1 Fresno State
November 11 at San Jose State
November 18 Utah State
November 25 at Nevada
January 1 vs No. 11 Oklahoma*

* Depicts Bowl

I'm not trying to detract from BSU in any way. I think they had a helluva year. But don't bring me that **** about them being #1 in the nation just because they went undefeated when this was their schedule. If they want to get ranked higher, schedule tougher teams.

...and Terpy, I can't f'n stand ND.
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RebelKev Wrote:
MU ATO Wrote:Its funny how the BCS thrives off of opinions. That is what the BCS's foundation is.

Opinions.

Yet when a team that is NOT in a "bcs" conference then there is no way no how that they could EVER win.

Let the hypocrisy continue.

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Notre Dame isn't in a BCS Conference. Ever think that maybe BSU should start scheduling more BCS teams?

Perhaps the BC$ teams should start scheduling Boise State more?
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Id like to see it, but really a couple of games against BCS teams isnt going to make enough of a difference. Their conference schedule isnt going to cut it.
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Cajunman02 Wrote:Perhaps the BC$ teams should start scheduling Boise State more?

It's not the BCS's job to try and make Boise State look strong, lite brite.
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RebelKev Wrote:
Terpy Wrote:
RebelKev Wrote:Wanna know the difference?

unwarranted hype?

Notre Dame '06 Schedule

September 2 at Georgia Tech
September 9 No. 19 Penn State
September 16 No. 11 Michigan
September 23 at Michigan State
September 30 Purdue
October 7 Stanford
October 21 UCLA
October 28 at Navy
November 4 North Carolina
November 11 at Air Force
November 18 Army
November 25 at No. 3 USC
January 3 vs No. 3 LSU*

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Boise State '06 Schedule

August 31 Sacramento State
September 7 Oregon State
September 16 at Wyoming
September 23 Hawaii
September 30 at Utah
October 7 Louisiana Tech
October 15 at New Mexico State
October 21 at Idaho
November 1 Fresno State
November 11 at San Jose State
November 18 Utah State
November 25 at Nevada
January 1 vs No. 11 Oklahoma*

* Depicts Bowl

I'm not trying to detract from BSU in any way. I think they had a helluva year. But don't bring me that **** about them being #1 in the nation just because they went undefeated when this was their schedule. If they want to get ranked higher, schedule tougher teams.

...and Terpy, I can't f'n stand ND.

Do you really think ND's schedule was that much tougher this year?

Michigan State - attrocious and ND barely pulled it out
Stanford - possibly the worst team in Div-I excluding Sun Belt
Army - Awful
Purdue - Goes to a bowl because of their easy schedule (No Mich. or tOSU)
North Carolina - joke
Air Force - Worse than the Wyoming team on Boise's schedule

ND played four ranked teams and lost to three of them all of which were blowouts.

Boise played 6 bowl bound teams and won them all. ND played 8 bowl bound teams and lost three of them.

You can't help what conference you play in. 5 of those weak games on Boise's schedule were conference games. Add that in with the 6 bowl bound teams and that only left 2 games.
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blah Wrote:Do you really think ND's schedule was that much tougher this year?

Oh hell yeah. However, that wasn't my point. If BSU wants to be ranked higher, they need to start scheduling tougher teams. If they're in a weaker conference, then they need to schedule about 4 big teams from the PAC, Big-10, etc. My point was that ND isn't in a conference at all, yet if they go undefeated chances are they're going to the NC.

It's no one's fault but BSU that they are in a weak conference, sure, it was probably attractive at first. Maybe they should approach the PAC-10. I can guarantee you, as good as they are, and I have never doubted that, SOMEONE would take'em in. Look at their OOC schedule.
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BTW Blah, you selectively left these out:

September 2 at Georgia Tech
September 9 No. 19 Penn State
September 16 No. 11 Michigan
October 21 UCLA
October 28 at Navy
November 11 at Air Force
November 25 at No. 3 USC

Yes. That's not exactly what I would call a "weak" schedule.
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blah Wrote:Do you really think ND's schedule was that much tougher this year?

Oh hell yeah. However, that wasn't my point. If BSU wants to be ranked higher, they need to start scheduling tougher teams. If they're in a weaker conference, then they need to schedule about 4 big teams from the PAC, Big-10, etc. My point was that ND isn't in a conference at all, yet if they go undefeated chances are they're going to the NC.

It's no one's fault but BSU that they are in a weak conference, sure, it was probably attractive at first. Maybe they should approach the PAC-10. I can guarantee you, as good as they are, and I have never doubted that, SOMEONE would take'em in. Look at their OOC schedule.

Boise does go out and try to schedule these BC$ schools. But do you really think these BC$ schools, like LSU, USC, Ohio State, want to play Boise State? What do these teams have to gain? Nothing. They beat a team from a weaker conference. What do they have to lose? Everything because they lost to a non-BC$ school. It's easy to say that Boise needs to go out and schedule tougher teams. Perhaps it should be the tougher teams need to say YES when Boise asks if they want to schedule a game!
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Cajunman02 Wrote:Boise does go out and try to schedule these BC$ schools. But do you really think these BC$ schools, like LSU, USC, Ohio State, want to play Boise State? What do these teams have to gain? Nothing. They beat a team from a weaker conference. What do they have to lose? Everything because they lost to a non-BC$ school. It's easy to say that Boise needs to go out and schedule tougher teams. Perhaps it should be the tougher teams need to say YES when Boise asks if they want to schedule a game!

Yeah, sure bud. 01-wingedeagle

Is that why Arkansas schedules USC? UF schedules FSU? OSU schedules Tejas?
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While Boise State has a very good team, there's no way they should be National Champions. Beating an OU team that my team beat by 3 TDs(and UT didn't play that well) shouldn't propel them to the #1 Slot.

One of the reasons the BCS was created was to prevent a "backdooring" to the MNC like BYU did in 1984. Playing a schedule like BYU did back then and then to get ranked above all others was ridiculous. Another one was to prevent teams on probation frpm getting ranked #1 at the end of the year ala 1974 OU. People forget that the sportswriters in this country have refused time and time again to take the high road and will still rank teams that have been cheating. That's just not fair to the rest of Div 1A Teams who try their best to play by the rules.

Quote:Boise does go out and try to schedule these BC$ schools. But do you really think these BC$ schools, like LSU, USC, Ohio State, want to play Boise State? What do these teams have to gain? Nothing. They beat a team from a weaker conference. What do they have to lose? Everything because they lost to a non-BC$ school. It's easy to say that Boise needs to go out and schedule tougher teams. Perhaps it should be the tougher teams need to say YES when Boise asks if they want to schedule a game!

I believe that Boise State just backed out of their series with Georgia especially since the Bulldogs destroyed them in 2005. I'm sure that most major teams aren't scared of them. However, playing in Boise in 30000 seat stadium venue when Fall starts isn't going to be my idea of having fun if you're the opposing team. Major schools would lose money playing in those small venues on a straight home-and-home basis. If Boise State wants to play my Longhorns down in Austin in September, I say go for it. We'll play them as long as they willing to come down here. For the record, we're playing TCU next season and the Horned Frogs are another one of those "Mid-Major" teams that have been on the cusp of making the BCS.

Quote:I'm not saying Notre Dame is some strong team. What I AM saying is that the years they ARE playing well, they get to the big time....and they aren't in a BCS Conference either.

Notre Dame is part of the BCS Alliance because simply, they're are the 2nd winningest college football program of all time. You cannot exclude a football program that has a winning tradition like Notre Dame out of the loop. The Fighting Irish have to win at least 10 games now and be ranked in the Top Eight to make it to a BCS Bowl. Not always an easy thing to do these days especially since they have to play two "Cathedral" schools every year.

Quote:While I prefer a 16-team playoff, I think it's important to mention that the BCS is an improvement over what was previously in place. Before the BCS, Boise State wouldn't of even had a shot against Oklahoma.

If there was ever a playoff, I would prefer a 12-team one with no auto-bids but is wholly sponsored by the BCS and not the NCAA. The "Big Conference" schools will never allow their main revenue sport to be controlled by the NCAA in that fashion. The "Mid-Majors" better start accepting that fact before ever talking about a playoff. I should also say that before the BCS, my team wasn't not allowed to go to the Rose Bowl because of the auto tie-ins. Now. because of it, we are. I agree with you, GTS..your Yellowjackets got screwed out of a consensus MNC back in 1990 because there wasn't a BCS. That and Colorado forgot to do the honorable thing in their game against Mizzou that year and forfeit it.
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I will also like to conclude that the Bowl System has been a part of Div1A Football for a long time. If it is ever to be done away with then the schools who have been participating in Div1A Football for at least 50 years should make that decision.
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RebelKev Wrote:
Cajunman02 Wrote:Boise does go out and try to schedule these BC$ schools. But do you really think these BC$ schools, like LSU, USC, Ohio State, want to play Boise State? What do these teams have to gain? Nothing. They beat a team from a weaker conference. What do they have to lose? Everything because they lost to a non-BC$ school. It's easy to say that Boise needs to go out and schedule tougher teams. Perhaps it should be the tougher teams need to say YES when Boise asks if they want to schedule a game!

Yeah, sure bud. 01-wingedeagle

Is that why Arkansas schedules USC? UF schedules FSU? OSU schedules Tejas?

wow you really dont get it
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RC Horn Wrote:Notre Dame is part of the BCS Alliance because simply, they're are the 2nd winningest college football program of all time. You cannot exclude a football program that has a winning tradition like Notre Dame out of the loop. The Fighting Irish have to win at least 10 games now and be ranked in the Top Eight to make it to a BCS Bowl. Not always an easy thing to do these days especially since they have to play two "Cathedral" schools every year.

Gotta disagree with you here, it has nothing to do with Notre Dames winning tradition and everything to do with how much money the networks can make off of Notre Dame. Of course they wouldnt be worth the big bucks without their tradition, but it is the money and not the tradition that gets Notre Dame into the BCS equation.
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Terpy Wrote:wow you really dont get it

Oh, I get it. I would like to see a playoff and I SERIOUSLY contend that BSU would get their asses handed to them if they were to play in the SEC.

I also get the fact that if they want to be taken seriously, they need to stop scheduling cupcake teams. I think I made that point rather clearly. All of these teams, like Utah a while back, etc., would NOT be undefeated in a conference like the SEC.

Can you say the same about this years UF? Would Florida have gone undefeated with BSU's schedule? Hell, I can name two other SEC teams that would have as well.
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